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Billy Hargrove said:
As little patience as I had for stalinists/maoists (MLMs) back in the day I had some respect for them holding out against the troon wave infecting leftism in the early 2010s. They correctly understood it as moral degeneracy. Now it seems like one of the most captured ideologies.
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Any far left ideology is childishly easy to capture. Why do you think all communist regimes eventually turn into "state capitalism?"

The left wing were useful idiots for the LGBTQ, not the other way around as many neocons and lolbertarians claimed.
 
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but I found this video mildly interesting. Britbong who used to run bouncers at gay bars discusses the AGP menace and observations on troons in general.
Key points:
* Pooners are meek and harmless
* Drag queens/HSTS were generally not a problem
* Vast majority of trannies he encountered were hyper-perverted AGP rapehons who regularly assaulted lesbians, especially in bathrooms, and this generally wasn't reported because the victims did not want to press charges
 
Two Frogs said:
As well "you can just get some new tits" is something that these butchers are LITERALLY saying to them, you can find examples of surgeons actually verbatim saying this shit about it.
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"Get some new tits" means of course "have another cosmetic surgery to put implants in".

I also heard one butcher (it might be that female "Dr Teat Yeat") imply that if a patient became morbidly obese they would get breast tissue again.

I want to find the clip of that because it sounds like such an unbelievable thing to admit on camera that I feel I dreamt it.
 
Thiletonomics said:
With the MtFs like Kim Petras and Jazz Jennings that were put on puberty blockers and castrated before reaching 18, but are still experiencing masculinity, will this push for parents to castrate their kids at an even younger age to "ensure" that they don't go through the "wrong gender" phase later on in life? And what would be the earliest age that parents would castrate their children?
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If you're talking about in-utero-pre-birth shit, then there's no point.
They already do that shit when they take a sperm sample from the father, 'wash' out all the female (or male) sperm, then only use what's left for conception. (Also other 'defects' too, but we're talking about gender).
After birth?
Intersex babies would be operated on as early as possible. Some days or weeks after birth, so their 'defective' genitals can be surgically reshaped to look 'correct', usually female, and the testes, if there were any, were usually removed so as not to interfere with the hormone treatment the child would need later on.
They were going for looks rather than function and this was decades ago, so there was less concern for natural sexually dimorphic growth, just the idea that 'hormones make the adult'.
That's where the idea came from in society that intersex people were some kind of freak. A LOT of them were 'women', who, like early transitioners now, grow to look more and more manly as they aged.
It usually ended up coming down to luck. If their father was a fairly slight and 'effeminate faced' man, they might get away with it. Some were the children of hatchet-faced linebackers though....

@Surfin Terf
And as far as I can see, there's some sort of sick virtue signaling going on where certain people intentionally reject traditional virtues and latch onto the opposite to prove how progressive and tolerant they are.
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That's the Queer Movement.
That's literally what Queer is and what Queer does.
Their entire goal is to subvert and destroy societal norms. Even ones that are beneficial to humanity as a whole or individually.
Even worse, they don't have some grand plan for a better society in its place. Oh no! They think that this society is bad, so if they destroy it, a better one will automatically just kind of... happen.
That is, if they're forced to look to/speak of the future. Their real 'work' is in the now. Destroying as many social norms and societal structures as possible.
No matter what.
 
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I strongly believe there are actually two different breeds of trans: gay and autistic. No need to explain gays in denial. But autistic trans specifically seem to have another issue.

Specifically, while being attracted to the opposite gender is normal, an unexplored side effect of autism seems to be that instead of that attraction incentivizing them to seek a partner, their mental illness, coupling with internet grooming validating it and making it worse, makes them want to be instead of be with.

In other words, it's a mere perversion of normal sexual attraction. Men loving femininity and cuteness is normal. It's just called "being attracted to women" or "being straight." What's not normal is not desiring such for a partner but on yourself. I think this is the source of AGP and the true root of autistic trans cases. It should be attraction, not envy.

This also explains why they are just straight with extra steps, and why trans autists are rarely also biologically gay. They desire feminity so much they want it in themselves and a partner. This is a side effect of their autism, and poor self identity. Autists hate themselves but their biology tells them to love the opposite sex so they want to be them, instead of striving to be liked by them.

tl;dr Autistic transness It's just a perverted form of straigh sexual atraction. Atraction turned into envy and narcissism.
 
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Toxic BRAAAAP Mask said:
Sometimes I think we need a queer theory thread. The amount of globohomo and DEI commie gobbledygook that's wrapped up in queer theory needs to be archived more than just 'queer theory =/= homos."
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Aren't queer theorists the ones who believe that the root of all oppression comes from the incest taboo? Or am I thinking of some other crazy theorists?
 
Stabby_Pencil said:
Aren't queer theorists the ones who believe that the root of all oppression comes from the incest taboo? Or am I thinking of some other crazy theorists?
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Yeah that's one part of it. The idea is that society and the patriarchy creates its own scapegoat boogeymen by outlawing incest so it can have a reason to oppress and force people to be straight (however that works) as opposed to, you know, incest being fucking bad for health. It's circular 'logic' to prove their own bias and make incest fetishists a marginalized class in their eyes, utter nonsense. Oh and it is eugenics to stop idiots from procreating with their first cousins to make tard babies.
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Mystery Spy said:
No need to explain gays in denial.
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I don't even think a lot of HSTS are gays in denial. I think a lot of them desire a particular dynamic and treatment from men that they perceive only women as getting or are coping badly with twink death. Many have a severe case of NLOG (not like other gays). Maybe some do but in the west those types are typically confused young kids that have been groomed by the ideology rather than the mostly adult men who do it. A lot of their behaviors are very egregious but because there isn't as much of an obvious auto arousal component people seem to not notice it as much.
 
Let me explain HSTS to the class.

Gay culture has certain aspects/values that are toxic. I will refer to them as "toxic faggotry" from now because that's a funny term. Some examples of toxic faggotry are the following:
- excessive vanity
- fetishizing youth/aging fear/pedophilia
- your family/society will reject you
- found family is a viable alternative
- live fast die young smoke meth
- promoting sex work
- obsession with "turning" straight men
- obsession with shitty pop music

GNC boys who are raised in this culture internalize all kinds of toxic faggotry and trooning out may seem like a viable alternative to them. It makes sense because real women don't get called faggot on the street, aren't discarded for younger ones when they turn 21, and have an actual life plan like getting married and having kids and whatever. They are also sold the idea that they will not age like men and have effortless beauty (the same ways boys used to be convinced to become eunuchs but that's a whole other topic).

Somewhere along the line people made the connection that HSTS = early transitioner = real trans, which is bullshit. HSTS are more similar to transmaxxers if they weren't incels. Do they end up happy? Ironically a lot of them waste their youth chasing all these procedures, but in return they get to look like androgynous ghouls for life and may find a chaser to marry. There are many who chop off their cocks and insist that they will only date straight men and these ones die alone because at the end of the day, men can never become women.
 
Mystery Spy said:
I strongly believe there are actually two different breeds of trans: gay and autistic. No need to explain gays in denial. But autistic trans specifically seem to have another issue.

Specifically, while being attracted to the opposite gender is normal, an unexplored side effect of autism seems to be that instead of that attraction incentivizing them to seek a partner, their mental illness, coupling with internet grooming validating it and making it worse, makes them want to be instead of be with.

In other words, it's a mere perversion of normal sexual attraction. Men loving femininity and cuteness is normal. It's just called "being attracted to women" or "being straight." What's not normal is not desiring such for a partner but on yourself. I think this is the source of AGP and the true root of autistic trans cases. It should be attraction, not envy.

This also explains why they are just straight with extra steps, and why trans autists are rarely also biologically gay. They desire feminity so much they want it in themselves and a partner. This is a side effect of their autism, and poor self identity. Autists hate themselves but their biology tells them to love the opposite sex so they want to be them, instead of striving to be liked by them.

tl;dr Autistic transness It's just a perverted form of straigh sexual atraction. Atraction turned into envy and narcissism.
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For autistics, I think the autogynophelia comes from failure to attract the opposite sex, and not from the autism itself. I don't think an autistic who learns to mask/act normally in society will troon out because they'll eventually learn to get a girlfriend. The ones who don't improve or don't get help will do self destructive behavior like gooning to gross porn, stay chronically online, etc. Of course, a subsection of this is being surrounded by other self defeating AGP autists who lovebomb each other and encourage transition. This may be obvious but there's a correlation between trans women and poor social skills and getting worse.
 
Super Mario Brothers said:
For autistics, I think the autogynophelia comes from failure to attract the opposite sex,
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Not nessesarily. I do think it is less likely that an autist who managed to get into a relationship will be far less likely to do it. But that's not a guarantee.

I think this is where the trans widows aspect comes into play. We have many cases of women getting married and having even kids, only for the guy in the relationship to want to be "lesbians" with the wife, and naively assume the wife is gonna accept them, and both will be uwu cute and do girly things together. The reality, of course, is that the woman will be repulsed. She wants a man, not a guy larping as her as his fetish.

Such a mistake can only be made by an autist.

The reason is simple: a stable relationship won't stop an autist from resenting the role of being a man, and envying a woman. In fact being married might even make it worse, as they will resent being a breadwinner, and having to be a man with responsibilities. And yes, selfishly destroy their families.

I do think there is something inherent to autism that makes what should be attraction to women into one's self. The mentall illness isn't being atracted to girliness, but on wanting it for yourself.

Transness is in the end just selfishness and envy, with extra steps.
 
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Stabby_Pencil said:
Aren't queer theorists the ones who believe that the root of all oppression comes from the incest taboo? Or am I thinking of some other crazy theorists?
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They're also pro-paedophilia. More generally they're anti-family, as the family unit is seen as the foundation and source of all bourgeois systems of oppression. They promote incest and paedophilia in an effort to break down the family.

It always comes back to fucking kids with these extremist movements.
 
Pooners (which seems to be the only kind that i see do this) that claim that they are "gender fluid" are just de-transitioners in denial and can't admit that they were wrong about their identity.
 
General Zoider said:
i have been saying it for years that if we just accepted homosexuals we would probably cut the number of trans cases in half.
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Nah. We're in this mess because homosexuals were accepted and the money/influence grift had to continue so they started funneling cash into troon shit.

I understand what you're saying but modern troons have very little to do with fags. It's actually homophobic as fuck to insist faggy little boys must be girls and to demand lesbians suck cock.
 
Potato Burrito said:
I understand what you're saying but modern troons have very little to do with fags. It's actually homophobic as fuck to insist faggy little boys must be girls and to demand lesbians suck cock.
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Wait you mean they are using a completely different playbook now beyond the age-old: "if you like cock or men, that means you are gay and being gay is bad"?

While I know its possible in current year there are more paths towards becoming troon or troon aligned, I just thought it might be possible to kill one of the "roots" of the troon tree, if we could just remove the self hating homo route.
 
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