🤝 Community Omegaverse, Yaoi, and MPreg Fandom Discussion Thread - God help us all

[Jacques1194]

To be fair, I don't pay super close attention to 4chan and have had the fortune to not encounter deranged yurifans. Well, at least, that I know of. Maybe because the fandoms I used to be in were more "female"?

Most yuri fans that I've encounter are actual lesbians from what Ive seen. Probably the only annoying thing I've seen from them is like I've stated before, whenever a straight couple has an argument or any flaws, they aggressively try to go "The woman is clearly battling comphet and should be a lesbian". To be honest, (although I don't know who's behind the computer screen) I haven't really encountered any "Trans lesbians" that hide behind their lesbian fetish as activism like fujos do. I've probably seen more lesbians that don't hide their hatred for men and straight ships and think the woman in the relationship is miserable. I dont know who's really more annoying. The fujos who hide behind activism and rep so they can excuse their boy love fetish or the yuri women lovers who hate every straight ship because they have this deep seething hatred for men. Both are annoying in their own way but at least the lesbians are actually consistent with what they like.

 

[Iodine]

Found my way to this thread again after an unexpected find in the Bluesky content mines. A "lesbian fujoshi" is upset that she and her sisters are being put down for being "male-centered". (Archive)

Nothing is new here as expected, just the same old "women pretending to not understand the crux of the argument and deflecting with blatantly false statements".

Woman pretends to not understand the contradiction of having sexual interest in the sex your identified sexuality is not attracted to, blaming it on one-sided discrimination against homosexuals instead:

Woman is convinced that female opposition to yaoi fandom culture is caused by women white-knighting offended straight men:

Woman argues that there is a double standard because gay men "are allowed to" like lesbian media:

Flaming fags who like female characters relate to their femininity and don't consider them sexually attractive. They don't consume or produce content about the character's sexual activities.
Woman proposes that the entire argument be shut down because characters are just pixels on a screen:

It seems there really is a running trend about cucking black women for white men.

I think the reason why I can't help but come back to this debate despite having no interest/knowledge in the media being debated over is because it's a perfect example of the woke eating their own. White male characters in mainstream Hollyweird slop are given negress love interests so the woke producers can pat themselves on the back for being heckin' diverse. Woke white women see this and correctly find race-mixing with niggers disgusting on a biological level, but they can't say this out loud without invoking the wrath of their woke social group. They quietly write the negress out of their fics instead, citing "freedom of derivative works". Then the fandom hyenas looking for anything to attack spring on them, preventing them from flicking their beans to their slop in peace.

None of this would have been a problem back in the days where Hollyweird didn't have to force women and shitskins into everything. If the white male lead's female love interest were a white woman, the white fujoshi could happily ship him with any other white male character she liked without rebuke. If the lead character wasn't blackwashed and/or genderswapped, white fujoshis wouldn't have to attach themselves to the one-note white male side character to find someone they were sexually attracted to. And if fujoshis had some common sense, they would stop consooming shit-smeared Hollyweird slop. Everyone involved is suffering in a prison of their own making.

 

[Magic Pickle]

A "lesbian fujoshi" is upset that she and her sisters are being put down for being "male-centered".

When I first read this, I read it as if they were being euthanized for the crime of fujoshism, and with the way that many of them act you'd think that this was actually standard practice.

 

[Jacques1194]

A "lesbian fujoshi" is upset that she and her sisters are being put down for being "male-centered". (Archive)

No one is saying that lesbians can't enjoy m/m romance if they relate to it and vice versa with gays and yuri romance. What these people aren't understanding is the weird fetishizing that a lot of these women (who claim to be lesbians) do. If you like the romance that's fine, but if you create very NSFW art of the two guys having sexual intercourse or making out then can you call yourself a lesbian? This would be like if I as a straight guy made NSFW art of two guys, but still claim to be straight. You can't tell me that wouldn't raise eyebrows.

EDIT: Also, this guy got emailed the new Avatar movie and he and Twitter are mad that a tomboy character didnt turn out gay. I love how these people claim to be so progressive and yet they reference sexist stereotypes.

 

[Poopfart]

No one is saying that lesbians can't enjoy m/m romance if they relate to it and vice versa with gays and yuri romance. What these people aren't understanding is the weird fetishizing that a lot of these women (who claim to be lesbians) do. If you like the romance that's fine, but if you create very NSFW art of the two guys having sexual intercourse or making out then can you call yourself a lesbian? This would be like if I as a straight guy made NSFW art of two guys, but still claim to be straight. You can't tell me that wouldn't raise eyebrows.

EDIT: Also, this guy got emailed the new Avatar movie and he and Twitter are mad that a tomboy character didnt turn out gay. I love how these people claim to be so progressive and yet they reference sexist stereotypes.
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She was straight. She had a crush on one of the male characters. I guess this person didn’t watch it.

 

[Chandelier]

EDIT: Also, this guy got emailed the new Avatar movie and he and Twitter are mad that a tomboy character didnt turn out gay. I love how these people claim to be so progressive and yet they reference sexist stereotypes.

They made Sokka gay? The same guy who fell in love with a girl attached to a moon god? Sokka/Zuko fans are gonna go wild here.

 

[Jacques1194]

They made Sokka gay? The same guy who fell in love with a girl attached to a moon god? Sokka/Zuko fans are gonna go wild here.

No they didn't. Twitter users are talking about this character named Toph. Their reasoning was that she accidentally kissed a girl who she believed was her boyfriend while being unconscious from almost drowning. Also I guess its because of her being kind of a tomboy as well. Again, its really become very annoying how desperate these people are for every character to be gay to where personalities that are normal for people regardless of sexuality are "Queer coded"

 

[Taxes]

You know, something I've been seeing lately (especially on tumblr & X) is the increase in this type of mentality in fandom. Not just the yaoitards (though they are the majority), but also wider shipping "culture," too. More and more of these freak women are coming out with their fetishes for writing incest, rape, pedophilia, etc & anyone calling them out for it, gets labeled a "puritan."

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They make the excuse that this is "exploring trauma" or some shit, when most of them have never experienced this. And even if they experienced something similiar, the questions still remain:
- Why not seek mental counseling or talk to irl friends to deal with this properly?
- If you have to write a story to get it out of your system, how about writing it & not posting it? Why not post it to an anonymous site or a support group?
- Why are you projecting your real life issues onto fiction? Why put these fictional characters into these scenarios (most having no canon experience of that stuff)?
- Why is it all sexualized? Why is it all clearly masturbatory, with little substance or critique of the subject?

I've genuinely read 1 (one) fanfic where the consequences of rape were explored in a real way & two where the complex relationship a victim of child molestation would have with their perpretator were actually expanded on. This was in the early 2010s, both were confirmed victims themselves, and both blocked anyone sexualizing that shit.

Before modern era, people had proper seperation. The "Dead Dove" types stayed in their own corner & didn't bother anyone else. Now, due to Covid, the political climate, and too much time online, those boundaries are dead. These broads now flood AO3 w/deplorable shit, fill fandom hashtags with garbage, and then cry "OPPRESSION! CENSORSHIP!" when anyone calls them a gross weirdo for it. Before: someone hated your shit, they'd call you gross. Now, it's some activism to online retards. .and It's not like it's representation since this level of deviation from the source is basically co-opting a character because making an is too hard apparently.

The funny thing is the "fiction doesn't effect reality crowd" is often also the progresshits crowd. You know, the type that believe calling a delusional, crossdressing man a man is akin to violence? Like, I've read genuine fics where the characters will be be subjected to brutal levels of rape & abuse (enough to make even "Killing Stalking" look tame), but god forbid you call the cuntboy in the story a woman. Or use she/her pronouns to label them. Abuse? YAYYY! Misogyny? Obviously! Racism? Preferred in many cases. PEDOPHILIA? Yessir! But calling a spade a spade--prepare to be blacklisted. Implying a canon fascist society that supports eugenics would kill the disabled (of which many of this type claim to be)--crying/screaming in the comment section. Exploring positive CHRISTIAN themes in fanfic--harassment & death threats! This is all "~propoganda~" and will hurt real life people, but the constant exposure to boy rape omegaverse abuse fics doesn't warp their mentality, at all. Ok.

It's so hypocritical. Either it's all fine or none of it is fine. This pick n' choose what is/isn't is vile. At least be consistent! Honestly, it's all very banal. Most of this types work is subpar at best, too. Writers, my ass!

Also, who does this "everyone romanticizing crime in fiction?" apply to? Most people I know don't! If a character commited horrible acts, it isn't seen as giggleshit in the fics I've read. The acts are never minimized, but they're not glorified either. The bubble these women live in.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

The funny thing is the "fiction doesn't effect reality crowd" is often also the progresshits crowd. You know, the type that believe calling a delusional, crossdressing man a man is akin to violence? Like, I've read genuine fics where the characters will be be subjected to brutal levels of rape & abuse (enough to make even "Killing Stalking" look tame), but god forbid you call the cuntboy in the story a woman. Or use she/her pronouns to label them. Abuse? YAYYY! Misogyny? Obviously! Racism? Preferred in many cases. PEDOPHILIA? Yessir! But calling a spade a spade--prepare to be blacklisted. Implying a canon fascist society that supports eugenics would kill the disabled (of which many of this type claim to be)--crying/screaming in the comment section. Exploring positive CHRISTIAN themes in fanfic--harassment & death threats! This is all "~propoganda~" and will hurt real life people, but the constant exposure to boy rape omegaverse abuse fics doesn't warp their mentality, at all. Ok.

They absolutely would be transphobic if it wasn't the number one taboo. I've only seen it on fujochan but I expect "No cuntboys in my sausagefest" would be said in woke language if they could.

They make the excuse that this is "exploring trauma" or some shit, when most of them have never experienced this. And even if they experienced something similiar, the questions still remain:
- Why not seek mental counseling or talk to irl friends to deal with this properly?
- If you have to write a story to get it out of your system, how about writing it & not posting it? Why not post it to an anonymous site or a support group?
- Why are you projecting your real life issues onto fiction? Why put these fictional characters into these scenarios (most having no canon experience of that stuff)?
- Why is it all sexualized? Why is it all clearly masturbatory, with little substance or critique of the subject?

Also the fact that they post it for random women to goon to.

Also, who does this "everyone romanticizing crime in fiction?" apply to? Most people I know don't! If a character commited horrible acts, it isn't seen as giggleshit in the fics I've read. The acts are never minimized, but they're not glorified either. The bubble these women live in.

Cause normal people don't goon to crimes. Obviously they know the difference but they pretend they don't. I've seen this mostly with male gooners but there's a lot of bait and switch tactics they do. "If it's just a drawing/fiction and no real people get hurt... then this is okay." Also an attempt to try to normalize it.

 

[Chandelier]

A white Cuban and notorious Mel hater decided to score a viral tweet shitting on another user for pointing out fujos are extremely male centric. Chief among those in her comments was Karina Mashkova, a Russian shotacon.

Obligatory skin pic:

Spoiler: Shouldn't you be starving on a dark island?

Comments were filled with people agreeing with her or outright denying that fujos hate niggers.

"You've never mentioned half of them on your profile"- neither have you. You're a JayVik who engages in race wars with black users. Do me a favour and clean out the gutter, wetback.

"Yeah I stand by what I said, what of it? They're mouthy blacks!"

Some Mileven hate, as if fujos didn't break down crying when Byler didn't become canon.


Our pedophile in person:

"I'm not a shotacon, I swear"

The author wrote a fic where a 16-year-old gets groomed by a grown ass man. It's acceptable because the teacher is hot.


Shotacon chibi art. I cropped out the piece that has Sebastian mounted by a dog.


She's also friends with the Jeffrey Epstein of the Arcane fandom, prettybadmagic. Thought "unblooded girl child" was brilliant."

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Back to the post, another user brings up the fact these women are manipulative but that they're also victims, so it's better to ship them with men instead. In Jayviks case, they prefer the Latino who was mentally and physically tortured by a white man to be with said white man who has a higher kill count than Thadeus, Thragg, and Griffith combined.


Blaming it on dudebros. Dudebros don't write fics of CONFEDERATE YAOI. Also, since when did you need characters sharing the same scene to be shipped?

From the user whom openly said she hated blacks:

Saying Mileven fans are homophobic while copping for an ugly Jew. Same people cheered when Eleven died so Mike and Will could get together.

This fujo insists Jayviks love Mel, which is objectively a lie. She's been in other posts shitting on her. The fandom is known for Confederate and Jim Crow yaoi, someone I've never seen another fandom do.

Also, it lasted a few DAYS, therefore it meant nothing, but genocide means cosmic love? Okay, bitch.

"We're liberating female characters by never talking about them"

A response to the above:

Spoiler: Last stand

The artist who drew the following fanart tried to steal someone's else's art and sell it. The only difference was that she added JayVik, when their cane and hammer were already there.

Wanted to go a little more into Joss, who's about as much of a creep as Joss Whedon. She insists she isn't a shotacon, but I've spied her kudos'ing works involving a grown man raping a 12-year-old and describing how their vagina "sucks his cock in." Since I like milking cows, here is a little jug for ya.

Spoiler: I did not have sexual fantasies about that child

You say it's Icky when Leonardo DiCaprio does it.

"Of course Val is there" - Greta there was one of the people upset when the Arcane thread here made it in Twitter.

"The antis all have weird names" meanwhile the names I've seen are:
- shotavik
- viktorscuntmole
- jaycesbigpenis/jaycesbigcock
- CockClencher3000
- rapethatboy
Etc etc




Casually admitting to teenagers fucking older men. It's okay when the guy is a hit Latino and doesn't look like your father, right?

Of course, I've read her works. The usual omegaverse where the uwu white man is a beaten down tradwife:

And the underage grooming fic. It's a 17-year-old going with a 30 something grown man. She's liked fics where the kid is much younger - 12 and under.

She's a pedophile, is friends with them, and does not condemn them. For added receipts, here are her comments on certain works.


But anti names are cringe.

"Vikooter"

Bookmarking a work by an actual pedophile:

Liking a work where the guy shouts "I'M GONNA FINGER THAT FRONT HOLE"

There you have it. This tradfujo with fixed dynamics that totally don't lean heterosexual happens to enjoy works with underage themes. She's totes not a pedophile.

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Back to fujo misdeeds:

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The original tweet was deleted, but it got this delicious ratio.

Spoiler: Noooticing

They legit think long hair = feminine, therefore women


"It's about homophobia!"



The noooticing continues.


It's true. They assumed Viktor was gay because of how he looked, but denied that K'sante was because he was too masculine.

It also led to this banger:

Spoiler: dainty and feminine

"The one with the smaller mouth is the woman"
"Nah it's the fishnets"


Noooticing:

The noooticing continues.

 

[Jacques1194]

It'll never not be creepy to me how many fujos make Craig a pooner to make his relationship with Tweek extra "spicy". This isn't the first time I've seen this. There was a South Park AU made by this one TIF where it was about the adult versions of the South Park kids and Craig was a TIF married to Tweek and they had a biological kid together. According to the TIF, she likes the idea of Craig being a pooner because his voice and personality is very monotoned like her voice is.

 

[YWNBAM]

The noooticing continues.

It's great but.... I am so tired, boss. It's all the same things I have been seeing for ages in yaoi fandoms, except now wrapped in a woke "muh blacks" coating. In fact, them hating female chatacters and straight ships was the reason I never (thankfully) could get into the genre (outside from... you know, men kissing and fucking each other being puke inducingly WRONG to my teenage head), despite some of the girls in my school being very crazy about fandoms that specifically got popular because of gay bait.

Anyone remembers "Welcome to Night Vale"? I was finding faggot shipping of that thing on the walls of our locker room in school which is how I even learned this strange little thing existed. Don't remember it having loud controversities, but the yaoihags were very annoying and smug over some canon confirmed homo ship. And then they moved on, because the moment you corrupt something, it's not as novel anymore. Time to go ruin something else.

Craig being a pooner because his voice and personality is very monotoned like her voice is.

See, if media just had a better written, colourful range of straight couples/platonic duos to ship with similar dynamics, maybe autistic girls wouldn't be so fast to obsess over faggots and put vaginas on men.

 

[Taxes]

See, if media just had a better written, colourful range of straight couples/platonic duos to ship with similar dynamics, maybe autistic girls wouldn't be so fast to obsess over faggots and put vaginas on men.

I agree with the sentiment, but you underestimate the all consuming degeneracy of these women. The female characyers could be the most complex, exciting, and important characters available and they would still slobber over the first mediocre male ship they could come up with. It could be two bland male background characters w/no dialogue and that will still get 100% of their attention. They hate women, but are heterosexual. One is getting a vag no matter what. Simple as that. Also, 90% of them are not autistic but (even when they are) still choose perversion 90% of the time.

 

[Paper Machete]

And then they moved on, because the moment you corrupt something, it's not as novel anymore.

This is exactly why they obsess over non-canon ships and why shows seemingly catered to them are astroturfed popular for a short while and then are never heard of again. It's also the reason they salivate over trying to find or frame friendships and anything else as homoerotic.

I don't agree that good het romance catered stuff would "fix" the fujo problem. But it is a sorry state that there is no fun, nice stuff depicted and that it's all either trash or used as a vehicle for something else (race mixing propaganda, girlboss propaganda where the guy is just used as an example as the proper sort of neu-male, etc.)

 

[Chandelier]

It's great but.... I am so tired, boss. It's all the same things I have been seeing for ages in yaoi fandoms, except now wrapped in a woke "muh blacks" coating. In fact, them hating female chatacters and straight ships was the reason I never (thankfully) could get into the genre (outside from... you know, men kissing and fucking each other being puke inducingly WRONG to my teenage head), despite some of the girls in my school being very crazy about fandoms that specifically got popular because of gay bait.

You have to remember that the reason these race wars are so noticeable is that these people claim to be anti-racist. They hold progressive values and are likely subscribed to Breadtubers like Oliver Thorn/Philosophy Tube. Race Fail 09 started because a Supernatural fan had their yaoi set during the 2010 Haitian earthquake. Dead nigger storage don't matter to true gay love.

Anyone remembers "Welcome to Night Vale"? I was finding faggot shipping of that thing on the walls of our locker room in school which is how I even learned this strange little thing existed. Don't remember it having loud controversities, but the yaoihags were very annoying and smug over some canon confirmed homo ship. And then they moved on, because the moment you corrupt something, it's not as novel anymore. Time to go ruin something else.

Yes, it was huge in 2014. Plenty of fanart and mentions at conventions. Its spiritual successor was "The Magnus Archives."

See, if media just had a better written, colourful range of straight couples/platonic duos to ship with similar dynamics, maybe autistic girls wouldn't be so fast to obsess over faggots and put vaginas on men.

I'm afraid that simply isn't the case. See post below.

The female characyers could be the most complex, exciting, and important characters available and they would still slobber over the first mediocre male ship they could come up with

Related:

 

[YWNBAM]

The female characyers could be the most complex, exciting, and important characters available and they would still slobber over the first mediocre male ship they could come up with

I don't agree that good het romance catered stuff would "fix" the fujo problem.

I'm afraid that simply isn't the case. See post below.

I see the point you are making. The core of the problem is indeed embedded too deeply into the whole community, probably spreading out to hundreds of years of fiction leading to more and more women ending up with the same mentality. "A creepy woman watching faggots fuck" was documented in Japan in goddamn ukio-e, after all.

Yet I am looking at the situation from the standpoint of a possible hypothetical solution to it. How do communities usually lose their influence and grow fewer in numbers? Under which conditions do they become irrelevant? There has to be a situation where the old fujoshi die out/grow out of it and there is no ground for newer blood entering the space. In my opinion, for it to be, no matter how unlikely, possible there has to be something to redirect and replace it, favorably something that does not sink people even further into body/reality dissociation. Would better straight fiction be able to do it? I don't honestly know. What I do know is that the current situation regarding those "girl centered shows" or allegedly those about straight romance are not helping at all.

Related:

It would be making a point if not for the fact most of those "shows about women" SUCK. Either woke shit or yuricuck moe bait. Not much choice. I remember as kid being a fan of 90s female lead shows like Buffy, Charmed (yeah I know it didn't age well) and Xena. Movies like The Craft or Ginger Snaps. You can probably pinpoint the difference between what these media pieces did VS the nu current year.

 

[Trombonista]

I lost interest in MPreg the moment I had to think about how the baby would come out.

 

[Jacques1194]

I agree with the sentiment, but you underestimate the all consuming degeneracy of these women. The female characyers could be the most complex, exciting, and important characters available and they would still slobber over the first mediocre male ship they could come up with. It could be two bland male background characters w/no dialogue and that will still get 100% of their attention. They hate women, but are heterosexual. One is getting a vag no matter what. Simple as that. Also, 90% of them are not autistic but (even when they are) still choose perversion 90% of the time.

I've seen people ship two characters that either have little interactions together or never interacted at all and certain parts of the fandom popularize the ship just because its a same sex pair. Example, I remember South Park one off characters Rebecca Cotswolds and Estella from the Pip episode was a popular pairing and no one could explain how this ship got popular in the fandom. Apparently, the reasoning was because the character's personalities are the opposite of each other. Estella was a cold and cruel character who couldn't love anybody. Whereas, Rebecca was a shy and sheltered person. The ship became popular as a "opposites attract" sorta thing despite the fact that these two characters have never once interacted before. Have people become so desperate for LGBTQ rep that they'll astroturf ships where the two characters have never interacted before and one that wouldn't even make any sense? The crazy part is some of these people would be disgusted with you if you ship them with a guy and say "That wouldn't make sense" when their ship makes 0 sense to begin with.

Also, I dont know if its just me or am I noticing more yaoi/yuri shippers are using the transgender tactic of threatening suicide or "minority" stress in order to get what they want? Apart from that one Byler shipper who said "The fate of queer kids is at stack if Byler doesn't become canon", I've been noticing a lot more people have been talking about how "stressed" they get when a ship of theirs doesn't become canon. One woman I know even started hating the show because her "queer" ship didn't become canon and people excuse it by saying "When there's a lack of LGBTQ rep in media, I can understand her stress" and its like, so its ok for people to have full scale mental breakdowns because their ship, (no matter how abstract it is in canon) didn't become canon?

 

[Among Us Gaming]

I don't agree that good het romance catered stuff would "fix" the fujo problem. But it is a sorry state that there is no fun, nice stuff depicted and that it's all either trash or used as a vehicle for something else (race mixing propaganda, girlboss propaganda where the guy is just used as an example as the proper sort of neu-male, etc.)

I mean the other clear sign of this is that if we consider fujos to be an online space phenomenon, then the fact that they do not gravitate towards other fanfiction, of which women write the vast majority of, proves concisely that good hetero fixes absolutely nothing. I would assert again, that its a fetish.

It would be making a point if not for the fact most of those "shows about women" SUCK. Either woke shit or yuricuck moe bait.

Lets also not forget that many fujos are teens, and media/cartoons aimed that that demographic are virtually all some flavor of this

 

[YWNBAM]

I dont know if its just me or am I noticing more yaoi/yuri shippers are using the transgender tactic of threatening suicide or "minority" stress in order to get what they want?

Bruh... They ALWAYS did that shit. You just didn't notice. Every lame fagggot fetishizer, especially on the artist side, huffs their own farts about how they "stick it up for the little guy" by drawing nasty shit or sending death threats to the writers about *gasp* gay bait!

Not forcing Watson's and Sherlock's actors buttfuck nasty in the last episode was what made little gay boys kill themselves, didn't you know? The horrible, horrible homophobic censorship is what prevents the overweight single middle-aged autistic white women's bizzare fantasies of which 0% based on any real argument to become real.

I mean the other clear sign of this is that if we consider fujos to be an online space phenomenon, then the fact that they do not gravitate towards other fanfiction, of which women write the vast majority of, proves concisely that good hetero fixes absolutely nothing.

Source on that stat, buddhey? As a teen I remember spending a long-ass time to find any good straight ship fics in a swamp of faggot ones. And even then there is a 40% chance of the author being male and writing some bizzare fantasy of his. The market is obviously oversaturated towards one specific demographic.

But to back up your statement, we also have the book category where women are indeed the majority of straight smut producers and you pretty much know just how many problems and criticism it faces. The hypocritical thing is, fujos write literally even viler shit, just place a man in the shoes of a heroine.

The crazy part is some of these people would be disgusted with you if you ship them with a guy and say "That wouldn't make sense"

Because of the sensitivity of the sex dynamic question, writing a straight couple is always put under more criticism and nitpicky attention from the public. It's restrained, and at times it feels like there is an unspoken limited set of dynamics straight ships are allowed to have. Which may be another reason why writing about gay couples may seem appealing to the average corpo feminism-pilled wahmen. Makes it easier to sweep up the uncomfortable innuendos.

Lets also not forget that many fujos are teens, and media/cartoons aimed that that demographic are virtually all some flavor of this

While true, these things still get a major media attention and are considered "popular gems" when coming out. When was the last time you could say this about a media WITHOUT any faggots shown/implied in it? The appeal of such "Instantly Forgettable" stands out in bright colours, expressive designs and lots, and lots of "food" to imply some nasty faggot fucking. These already brainrotted chicks watch this, see just a glimpse of similarity to the dynamics/tropes they read in porn and their brains go "DING DING DIIING!"