💬 Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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Gonna commit the cardinal sin of posting twice and emotionally sperging out. I forever lost a best friend when I was 14. She was only 13 and we'd known each other for ~4 years at that point. When she realised she'd never be a man she took her father's hunting rifle at night and shot herself. I was asleep completely unaware of what I was going to wake up to. She was so clever, funny and sweet. A genuinely great friend. I harbor so much hate for the shitass groomer cult and cps for never doing anything. I was livid when a shitty article was made on how twansphobic buwwying made hew kiww hewsewf. Fuck off faggots none of you bothered to get to know her she thought the bullying was funny and trolled online. She became relevant to you only when she could be used as a stepping stone for your cult. You ignored her when she needed help the most and dismissed her issues and abusive home environment. Instead you opted to go "yas queen so valid" instead of giving her therapy and arresting the cunts around her

With that I conclude that this tranny shit is pure evil and needs to be kept far away from kids. Any retard pedophile who pedals it to children needs to be put on the electric chair and sent to the deepest depths of hell where tranny scum like they/them belong.
It's funny when a 14 year old tumblr fag says she's a nyanbinary xe/xir, but the moment this shit infects vulnerable children in abusive homes it kills them. Literally. Permanently.

Doesn't quite fit the theme of the thread but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ still lost a friend to this gay shit when i was small. So many years later I still lament that ill never see her smile again or crack a hitler joke. She was so young man she had a future ahead of her. Now she's remembered as the poow wictim of ewiw twansphobia rather than the clever little shit who'd gather her friends to troll shitty roleplay servers and spam the memes that retards claim made her kill herself, go out hunting with friends and shoot buck, draw and animate and shit man i shouldn't be sperging out like this as a noob
 
localinternetretard said:
Doesn't quite fit the theme of the thread but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ still lost a friend to this gay shit when i was small. So many years later I still lament that ill never see her smile again or crack a hitler joke. She was so young man she had a future ahead of her. Now she's remembered as the poow wictim of ewiw twansphobia rather than the clever little shit who'd gather her friends to troll shitty roleplay servers and spam the memes that retards claim made her kill herself, go out hunting with friends and shoot buck, draw and animate and shit man i shouldn't be sperging out like this as a noob
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I would say you quite literally lost a friend due to transgenderism, so it's not irrelevant.

People not giving a shit until they found out she might have considered herself a male doesn't surprise me, sadly.
 
Morridowfag said:
I just want to know, why the fuck does this feel like it reads off a script? I know that stereotypes exist for a damn good reason but this all feels so surreal, like I am living through a greentext story. I still hope for the best for both of them but nigga what the fuck?
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Like clockwork, you could say?

I've been thinking about this for a while. Others have already said that it's cult brainwashing and while I agree, it still astonishes me that every scenario plays out the same way, with each of them turning into clones into each other. People who used to at least be normal, or have some semblance of critical thinking skills turning into NPCs as soon as their egg is "cracked." In my experience, although it seems to affect both genders similarly, it seems a lot more drastic in men.

Sometimes I imagine in my head what would happen if the scenario played out in front of me again. I'd say, "And this is the part where you call me a terf and have a meltdown while you surround yourself with your new trans friends and then your life slowly spirals downward, usually involving issues getting or staying employed" and watch the confused reactions. It wouldn't get through their heads but it'd be temporarily amusing.

I wish there was a way to get through to them but once they get in the ideology, it's like an instant game over.
Morridowfag said:
Said that gender dysphoria was hitting him hard (where the fuck did that come from?) and he was tired of having to constantly display hypermasculinity (again, outta nowhere)
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Isn't funny that all these people suddenly suffer from gender dysphoria when it's in vogue to do so? Absolutely saying nothing in their childhood or when it was uncool to do so? Almost as if it's rapid onset or something.

Zoomers are sorta fucked in this regard because most of them grew up in this zeitgeist, but as for millennials. come the fuck on.
localinternetretard said:
It's funny when a 14 year old tumblr fag says she's a nyanbinary xe/xir, but the moment this shit infects vulnerable children in abusive homes it kills them. Literally. Permanently.
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I've wondered how many abused children are now pretending to be trans, or convincing themselves that they are just to get attention and/or resources they need. There definitely is an abused to trans pipeline that doesn't solely result from sexual abuse. No one cares about an abused kid but a trans abused kid, now they get attention asap!
 
It gives a sense of community and makes them feel ✨️special✨️ and ✨️loved✨️ and gives them the attention they never get from home. They get smothered in "you're so valid you're so loved you're so beautiful uwu" and start developing worse and worse delusions. Dont know if its mental illness, pure escapism or what but its depressing. They get dead set on transitioning. Then by age 25 they detransition or join the 40% after realising theyve ruined their bodies rather than get therapy. Or worse they realise they'll never be a man/woman and kill themselves young. And fucking no one tries to stop them or keep this retard ideology away from them
 
Super Mario Brothers said:
People who used to at least be normal, or have some semblance of critical thinking skills turning into NPCs as soon as their egg is "cracked." In my experience, although it seems to affect both genders similarly, it seems a lot more drastic in men.
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I've said this many times before. These "men" who troon out are essentially failed men. They think their lives are shit, they think that they failed all the people around him as a "man" because of the demands regular life has on a guy. When a man hits rock bottom like this, they do one of several things:

1) Resort to the use of drugs/alcohol/some other cardinal sin to cover up their misery
2) Turn into a giant abusive piece of shit if they even still have a gf at that point
3) Kill/hurt/maim others
4) Kill/hurt/maim themselves
5) Troon out, which is kinda like #4

The problem nowadays is that these mentally ill men, see #5 as the easiest way "out" of their misery because, as the poster above me said, declaring you are a troon gives the biggest number of "victim points" and acknowledgement out there. It allows you to cover up all the flaws in your personality that led you to hitting "rock bottom", and instead you have this giant wall of victimhood you can now hide behind - you now know a ton of other people, including pathologically empathetic or toxically empathetic females who will actually listen to you, and if you run into a TERF who's actually right on THIS ONE THING about troons? You now have a giant hugbox of troons and men and women who will defend you from those people.

You basically turn into a giant walking pussy, minus the actual pussy, and YOU GET LAUDED FOR IT. And until society as a whole makes trooning out a shameful thing to do publicly, it will continue to spread like a mind virus.

Edit: I would argue that a man trooning out is the equivalent of a man turning into a "born again Christian". Same kind of nuttery and mentality, I think.
 
I still miss my old HSTS best friend sometimes which is crazy work, but all the same he was funny and catty and we knew each other.
I don’t miss the drama and constant 70-30 focus on him and his assorted neuroses, but it makes me sad that he’s still chasing the dragon and will never be happy.
Because you know, if you love someone and they’re no longer in your life for good and healthy reasons, you still hope they find happiness somewhere.
He’s never going to be happy and it’s just getting worse the older he gets and has to deal with the double duo of both getting older and less passable, and the eternal quest of passing to everyone everywhere.
Someone I know saw him recently out in public, and it’s obvious he’s on the GLP-1 train because he’s finally skinny and he never wanted to exercise or change his trash food high calorie binge foods, he’s lost a lot of weight.
And apparently he’s now turned into a filler/botox monster in the panic response of getting older.

All signs that he’s not happy, will never be happy, and one day he’ll finally reach the Day of the Rope.
He already was very set on one point for parking his car in a detached garage and just waiting for the end, and despite the constant suicide baiting from troons I think that was genuine because he didn’t tell anyone but me about it, and it was after the fact.
 
My two (former) closest friends both trooned out. It really sucks because I haven't spoken to either of them in like 10+ years when we used to be really close.

SURPRISE SURPRISE! Both of them moved to Seattle prior to trooning out. I swear there's some toxic shit in the air or water there.

The male friend I had known since fucking kindergarten. Looking back he definitely had some severe mental health issues. When we were in high school it got particularly bad. He was living with my boyfriend at the time and his room was always a disgusting mess, food and garbage everywhere, never bathed or brushed his teeth etc. His poor unfortunate girlfriend at the time (not sure if they were ever intimate or not - I hope he at least got some puss before he obliterated his dick) confided in me and my partner that she hated making out with him because of his refusal of basic hygiene. Yet she somehow still loved him anyway. They ended up splitting up eventually and he tried to play it off like "she's not the only girl for me I'll find someone else" type deal but I could tell it hit him pretty hard. He was always on the heavier side and definitely not much of a looker but was a kind soul and good friend. But I saw him a few years later and he seemed to have really turned his life around. He was eating better and lost a TON of weight and was actually looking so much better, went to the dentist and got his nasty ass teeth fixed and cleaned up and everything. His mental state seemed greatly improved too. That was the last time I saw him and spoke to him and now he identifies as a woman and is dating another troon "man", and has gained all the weight back that he lost. Looks absolutely terrible.

The other friend is kinda a similar story. Pudgy and kinda dumpy looking but still obviously a female. Was an outgoing lesbian/gay at the time. Found her reddit account and I keep tabs on it occasionally and she got her titties cut off and goes by one of the most stereotypical male troon names ever and now constantly complains about being in debt because her insurance said they would cover the surgery and now is refusing (LOL) and she went for some stupid ass degree in theater so she is working dead end jobs and makes no money and was asking reddit for advice on how to get debt collectors to stop harassing her. She also had a lot of creepy tendencies when we were still friends I never really put together until I looked back in retrospect. She was obsessed with this Freshman girl when we were Seniors who clearly had 0 interest in her but she always kept hanging out with her and trying to make something happen. I think the younger girl knew what was going on but let it slide so she could get free rides to the mall and get free fast food and takeout or whatever.

Just really sad because I miss my old friends but they are looooong gone. I also hate that my taxpayer dollars go towards financing this mental illness retardation.
 
I moved to a new town when i was about 10 which meant different schools, leaving my old friends behind and making new ones. I talked to a tall gangly kid and me and him hit it off almost instantly, I'd consider him my best friend for about 8 or 9 years. me and him hung out constantly at school, outside of school, parties, getting food together etc. He was one of the only people i felt i could actually confide in. High school would roll around and he'd start hanging with my another one of my friends brother, who i feel is the reason he trooned out. He hung out with him more than he did me, started skipping school constantly, got horribly addicted to weed, alcohol and vapes just like my friends brother was. he was a completely different goddamn person. we stopped talking to each other, neither of us really fought it i guess but we'd still hang out for big group get togethers and parties, I'd still talk to him, apparently he got a girlfriend somewhere along the line too. I was pissed off he wasn't my friend anymore but he seemed to be doing alright so i just kind of let him go. It ate at me, but him and I were obviously growing apart and even back then i knew there was really no talking him back into being the friend i grew up with.

Fast forward years later, I'm now a very jaded, bitter and cynical adult and scrolling through some old discord servers cause I'm bored. i see his handle and see a furry oc he obviously paid someone for and he now has She/Them in his bio. i find out later from a shared friend that he trooned out. lopped his dick off and everything, heard whispers that the dude was pretty hung too. Shit fucking broke my heart, i often wish I'd have sat him down and said something but i don't think any of it would have stuck, he went one way, and i the other. I think about reaching out to him every now and then but i can't stomach it, my friend i thought so highly of went and lost his goddamn mind. I can hardly talk to or look at my friends brother anymore either, he's still friends with him apparently and i just HATE the fucker for ruining my friends life and our friendship. my friends brother still obviously comes to parties and it takes every goddamn ounce of willpower i have not to start a fight.
 
Toxic BRAAAAP Mask said:
I can think of one way that troons are very fond of. :smug:

For real though, sorry for your loss.
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It's alright. I still miss the people they used to be but I've accepted the loss. It's much better to just cut my losses than to try and cater to their troon lunacy.

It is funny though reading everyone else's experiences too and seeing just how true the stereotypes actually are, lol. Since my only experience in my personal life has been these two.
But so much checks out. The obsession with games like Undertale/Deltarune, the anime/cutesy drawn profile pictures with the tranny flag background that look NOTHING like them, the e-begging for monies for 'muh top surgery/HRT', the blatant porn addiction/weird fetishes (mostly for my former male friend. Dunno about the girl). And of course the making being trans their ONLY personality trait.
 
Friend of mine killed herself last night. She'd been bouncing back and forth about her gender for a while, had been convinced that the Republicans were going to kill her. I tried gently telling her it wasn't going to be that bad. She was a wonderfully creative person and I feel absolutely gutted. I wish I could've swept away all the awful thoughts she had, but now she's dead.
 
This isn't really "losing" anyone, but I did have a friend that transitioned. I met him at like 10 I think and he always was kinda feminine and liked wearing dresses, he lived in a Christian household that sounded kinda strict. As he grew older he rlly liked the idea of like. Idk. Y'know that Chapelle Roan song, Pink Pony Club? That essentially but without the stripping, he always fantasized about going to a club in a dress and just quietly sipping a martini. There was something psychological there to me, something that had to do with his sort of sheltered upbringing, but I never figured out what. Either way, I met back up with him and he's trans now. He hasn't really changed though, he acts the exact same. I still wonder what that club fantasy meant, it feels like there's something more there. It's just so specific, wearing a cocktail dress at a party and drinking fancy drinks whilst making friends with the bartender.

There's also that friend I mentioned earlier that I thought was a cis woman but is possibly a trans woman. She also hasn't changed and stays the more reasonable friend of mine but it's still a mystery I'm slightly interested in cracking. She's an online friend so it's harder but like I said tbh I don't even care that much.

I guess there was one guy I knew that transitioned and became a roblox porn avatar weirdo but we weren't really friends.
 
Getmeout said:
This isn't really "losing" anyone, but I did have a friend that transitioned. I met him at like 10 I think and he always was kinda feminine and liked wearing dresses, he lived in a Christian household that sounded kinda strict. As he grew older he rlly liked the idea of like. Idk. Y'know that Chapelle Roan song, Pink Pony Club? That essentially but without the stripping, he always fantasized about going to a club in a dress and just quietly sipping a martini. There was something psychological there to me, something that had to do with his sort of sheltered upbringing, but I never figured out what. Either way, I met back up with him and he's trans now. He hasn't really changed though, he acts the exact same. I still wonder what that club fantasy meant, it feels like there's something more there. It's just so specific, wearing a cocktail dress at a party and drinking fancy drinks whilst making friends with the bartender.
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He wants his life to be like what he sees on the television. If he had his wish tomorrow what would he do with it. Drink at a bar? Become an alcoholic? That's not a life. It's a flat 2d photograph. It's chasing advertisements and refusing to accept the reality of his sex and appearance.
Getmeout said:
There's also that friend I mentioned earlier that I thought was a cis woman but is possibly a trans woman.
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There is no cis.
Getmeout said:
This isn't really "losing" anyone, but I did have a friend that transitioned.
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Getmeout said:
She also hasn't changed and stays the more reasonable friend of mine but it's still a mystery I'm slightly interested in cracking. She's an online friend so it's harder but like I said tbh I don't even care that much.

I guess there was one guy I knew that transitioned and became a roblox porn avatar weirdo but we weren't really friends.
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Why did you come in here then?
 
m1ddl3m4rch said:
He wants his life to be like what he sees on the television.
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I think that makes sense when you live your whole life inside with highly religious parents, you learn reality from television. I know I unironically thought every high school had a pool that students were freely allowed to host parties at till I went to high school.
m1ddl3m4rch said:
Why did you come in here then?
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Most adjacent thread to what I wanted to say.
m1ddl3m4rch said:
There is no cis.
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"Normal", either way.
 
Three Gorillion Dollars said:
Friend of mine killed herself last night. She'd been bouncing back and forth about her gender for a while, had been convinced that the Republicans were going to kill her. I tried gently telling her it wasn't going to be that bad. She was a wonderfully creative person and I feel absolutely gutted. I wish I could've swept away all the awful thoughts she had, but now she's dead.
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Friend, mental illness isn't logical. If your friend hadn't been terrified of Republicans, she would have found something else to fixate on. The only thing that could have helped her were hardcore antipsychotics and heavy duty mood stabilisers, preferably injected at a high security psychiatric facility. Troons, pooners... at the bottom of it all is mental illness that's being reinforced in an echo chamber instead of being treated and dismantled.

You were there. That's more than anyone else did, and everything that you were able to do, and that's what matters.
 
Adolf Kitler said:
The autistic pooner on my class who was obsessed with dream SMP used to be in a Catholic school before coming to my HS.
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This is not in the least surprising. Catholic school is a surefire way to guarantee your kids will leave Catholicism, unless you're catechizing them at home. The catechesis is very poor/outright incorrect and they have caved to state/fed government to adopt certain curricula because they need the money. They need the money because they don't have nuns running them anymore, they have to hire the next leftist weirdo with a Master's degree at a competetive salary, or hire the ex nun who dropped her habit during the sexual revolution and has some quite interesting but incorrect theology, like my 6th grade Catholic school teacher, who I'm pretty sure was a lesbian. Sorry if this is too off-topic. But Catholic schools churn out the most anti-Catholics and for the worst reasons, i.e. they don't actually understand what they argue against bc they lever actually learned it to begin with.
 
AMHOLIO said:
Note: if your friend or loved one transitioned and stayed the same cool person and are chill with themselves and you, more power to both you and them. This is for coping with people who destructively transitioned
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If your friend is killing themselves with crack only a little and theyre still cool then its fine.

Its destructive behavior either way. When someone transitions they are eating themselves alive. Even if they arent a child, that means they are normalizing it to children, even if they arent annoying about it, theyre still swimming in pure self hatred and scum and self pity. Its fine to drink 3 bottles of hard liquor a day as long as you do it behind friggen closed doors bro! Sure go ahead and chop your arm off because of the voices, as long as youre a consenting adult!!!
If you care about someone, get them help.
 
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