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Talks with who? there is no Leadership domestically or internationally who ius Trump talking to in these investigations The late Ayatolla thru a ooigie bouard?
Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.
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I'm not talking about some towelhead figurehead who actually doesn't do anything except stand there and act like he's the Islamic pope, I'm talking about the ACTUAL people who are responsible for the current defense of the Iranian state
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I get Egypt and Turkey but why is Pakistan in the picture?
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Considering the Gerald R Ford had quite the extended deployment, this is to be expected. It will need extensive repairs, crews will want additional time at time. America has only a slow portion of their carriers always deployed, and with the retirement of Nimitz (it reached the end of its life) and with delays related to the JFK means America is having to use more ships.
Like, look at HMS Hood at the end of its life. It was due a refit, it didn't get one because of WW2. This meant that it was in a terrible state for fighting Bismarck which had in part resulted in the loss of the ship. Ships become warn out.
Everything Europe is a cock up, this is partly because of how disunified a lot of European policy making is and all of the powers that be in Europe are ready to stab each other in the back at a moments notice to get the sweet pork barreling money. Look at France and how protectivist they are over their national industries. You can't do shit with them militarily unless they get their way. This is partly a good thing because of how it meant France kept their NPPs but Europe is not just competing with the world, it is competing with itself and eagerly would fuck itself over just to stop the other.
Nonsense, Xi has recently purged a lot of his high ranking military staff, and they are still engaged in developing their power projection capability for a long, drawn out conflict. In the event of war, China would be having to face a war to secure shipping lanes in its favour and would be fighting both Japan and the US alongside Taiwan. They may have the biggest, numerical, fleet in the world but they still are lacking in blue water ability. Hence why they are working on it with programs like the Type 004 carrier, Type 055 guided missile destroyers and so on. But, China is not aiming to have 5th generation fighter capabilties and their current carriers are extremely limited. 2 Ski Jump carriers, and the Fuijian that has Catobar has a flawed design with it not being big enough to launch continuous sorties and land its planes. Plus, they are also building up their amphibious invasion capability. They are closer to being ready, but still distant and they have the long term manufacturing advantage The only thing that would see an early invasion of Taiwan is if Xi is about to die and he wants to be known as the dragon who took on the world.
Europe doesn't send ships because we don't really have the concept of a lame duck president, and Europe thinks in the very short term, and did not prepare for any conflict in the slightest. This relates to the above where Europe would rather be in competition with its self and would rather everyone lose than someone win. Any supranational elements have done little in destroying the balance of power mentality.
Europe can also get away with building smaller Corvettes and their navy is not geared to long distance power projection. Whilst countries do have that capability, a lot of the stuff European naval buildup has been focused on is Russia. America is concerned with everyone, and having a spare for their spare. Which, when fighting Russia smaller Corvettes are all you generally need (mixed in with Frigates as Russia's naval geography is limited.
And European naval procurement is quite deceptive in what they name their ships. A lot of European navies are usually against naming their ships "destroyers". Case in point, France doesn't have any destroyers by name . The Type 26 class is another case of this, where there are 4 countries currently on the books to have ships of this class. Britain, Australia, Canada and Norway. Where, Canada has the most ships of this class set to be ordered at 15. The thing is, whilst the rest call the ship a frigate, it is a destroyer for Canada. Now, each country has different specifics of the ships. Australia has more VLS cells (putting it at equal to an Arleigh Burke, but remember it is totally a Frigate) whilst Britain and Norway are more concerned with north sea shipping and Russian submarines so they are more geared towards anti-submarine warfare. - but still has VLS cells. The ships are at the very least 8k tonnes in displacement, which is close to any other destroyer.
Remember this whenever people go on about "why we need proportional representation". All this climate shit comes about because in proportional systems Green parties are able to get just enough votes to make or break a government. This is what usually happens in say Scotland where governments there are usually formed by both the SNP and the Greens. And in the case of Germany, they are able to siphon votes and were something Merkel had to concern herself with and so she bit the bullet and killed German nuclear power.
It's the carrot and stick method, it is done to make Trump look more reasonable and trust worthy. So that when the markets close, he can really start bombing and go "I tried, I talked, they didn't listen".
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They neighbour Iran and their foreign ministry has regular, close contacts with both the Islamic Republic and the United States.
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Idk theres probably some IRGC remnants who are defective and talking with the U.S. and israel at this point while the other factions fuck around.
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how many new secret weapons deep are we into this conflict.
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That's what the jews want, ergo, it's also the one of the war goals of the Americans too, as long as the same ideology remains, Israel will never be safe from the possibility of a nuclear Iran, which is why regime change is so desirable.
Alternatively, a complete collapse into civil war, far grimmer, yes, but it would benefit Israel too.
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I know Iran structures it's military and politics off the Russian model but them quite literally doing the whole "the gloves are really coming off this time, we swear!" shtick is absolutely hilarious.
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Iran keeps TACO'ing out. All talk, no game.
They're like a nigger with a loaded gun
>Invade me nigga. Invade me nigga
>Gets bombed
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There's still enough cohesion to determine who can cross the Strait. The people who own the tankers that are able to cross are negotiating with somebody.
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Lose our number, faggot.
If he was using AI to plan this, his posts would all contain references to "hypothetical Iran war scenario" and explanations of why it's impossible to bomb foreign countries since that's illegal under international law. He would also repeatedly claim that air campaigns can't end a war, while citing Japan and Nazi Germany as examples.
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I am honestly very confused by his newest Truth Social post. I'm sure there's some 48 rules of power law that says if you behave completely randomly it throws your opponents off or something.
I'm really just seeing random an erratic behaviour and not the 42-D underwater blindfolded backgammon.
I wish that Scott Adams were alive. I would have genuinely been interested in his takes on this.
I'm really just seeing random an erratic behaviour and not the 42-D underwater blindfolded backgammon.
I wish that Scott Adams were alive. I would have genuinely been interested in his takes on this.
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Yeah but its not under one ruler at this point. Its factions running different things. Thats why we are getting conflicting reports because the communications fucked.
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Pakistan, much like their arch rivals in India, is playing both sides
The last time they unleashed their secret weapon we got the Diego Garcia fail.
The other thing is the US also needs to get it's ships across oceans, and smaller ships don't fare as well for blue water ops (allegedly).
Plus, aside from land-based air cover the US needs carrier groups to ensure fighter coverage is on-station to intercept a Su-34 or JF-17 attempting a below-radar attack against such smaller ships.
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Trump is just an incredibly short-sighted person, he's incredibly impulsive over everything, and it has usually worked for him for the past 79 years of his life thanks to a lot of luck on his side.
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At that point hitting their oil and especially water infrastructure is going to be needed as that would completely collapse them though we would need to aid whatever transition government immediately after the rebuild.