Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

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I was going to go through the other thread to find all of the posts that said "there will be no boots on the ground", to hand out a mass "Fell for it again award" but there's so many it would take hours :story:

Now the goal posts have moved to "Nobody said there would never be boots on the ground :smug:" and "Of course there will be boots on the ground, it was inevitable, nobody said otherwise :smug:"

"There won't be boots on the ground"
"If there were boots on the ground it wouldn't be bad"
"There's boots on the ground and here's why it's a good thing" <----they are here.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
that's not one of my posts

we do have power over the Druze and the Circassians, they're close allies of Israel and we treat them well because they dont try to fanatically murder us
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For some reason Iran leaves its own Jewish population relatively unmolested despite the Jewish state murdering Iranian civilians, while Israel murders Palestinian and Lebanese civilians to the tune of 100+ per day. Because of khummus or something.
 
once the war goes beyond the allotted time table i'm going to go into the other thread and watch the cope and dilation in real time. i know that the israelis don't care about america or the troops beyond their usefulness to israel but watching americans carry the goalpost down the street is the ultimate embarrassment.
 
bread n circuses said:
For some reason Iran leaves its own Jewish population relatively unmolested despite the Jewish state murdering Iranian civilians, while Israel murders Palestinian and Lebanese civilians to the tune of 100+ per day. Because of khummus or something.
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iran heavily oppresses its Jewish population the same way it treats its Christian population, they're second class citizens who Muslims lord over
 
Prööt :DD said:
Best possible outcome right now is a ceasefire, but USrael will have to initiate it since Iran is obviously not budging and their regime is clearly not changing. In order to negotiate the "opening of the Strait" aka "Iran uwu pwease stop shooting at le heckin boats", honestly I have no fucking idea how that's going to happen if Iran still retains the ability to endanger shipping and, like you said, with the US proving its absolute unreliability in negotiating anything. Iran demands that GCC countries and Saudi Arabia kick out the US military, but I doubt they'd budge in the short term since their governments are also run by inept and corrupt retards entirely beholden to American investment making them willing bullet sponges for Israel at the expense of their own people. Basically the world's most ridiculous Mexican standoff.
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To get a ceasefire going Trump would need to publicly own up to two things. That Iran essentially won and that attacking Iran was a mistake he made. Trump, admitting to a mistake. The rest of his presidency will be fun.
 
NickDigger said:
Just posted this in the happenings thread and it got trashcans within a minute. Not that I'm complaining, but holy shit what a bunch of snowflakes.
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Have another one.



Imagine the black pill from the next guy who will be promising to bring "peace".
 
Butterschmalz said:
Have another one.

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Imagine the black pill from the next guy who will be promising to bring "peace".
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it's the same song and dance every election cycle. both candidates go up there and sing and dance about domestic issues, what's wrong, what they're going to do about it, then once they get elected they just do the same exact globohomo bullshit that the other side would do had they won.

as long as people blindly defend their "team" things will never get better. instead of getting pissed off that they've been lied to and used they act like battered housewives telling the police that their abusive husband "deep down really loves me". it's so embarrassing. i don't know if its an IQ problem or what but i would love to know the logic behind all of this. on top of that i'm a registered republican so i'm not even a leftcuck gloating about what's going on. our political system in this country has completely broken down, its absolutely disgusting.
 
harmacist said:
it's the same song and dance every election cycle. both candidates go up there and sing and dance about domestic issues, what's wrong, what they're going to do about it, then once they get elected they just do the same exact globohomo bullshit that the other side would do had they won.

as long as people blindly defend their "team" things will never get better. instead of getting pissed off that they've been lied to and used they act like battered housewives telling the police that their abusive husband "deep down really loves me". it's so embarrassing. i don't know if its an IQ problem or what but i would love to know the logic behind all of this. on top of that i'm a registered republican so i'm not even a leftcuck gloating about what's going on. our political system in this country has completely broken down, its absolutely disgusting.
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You could see the psychology play out in the reflexive boos that Trump got when he said that Bush and Co. lied about Iraq having WMDs. The liberals, who are insufferable, bigoted, midwit snobs for the most part, looked down on and mocked everyday Americans for so long that they internalized and made points of pride the very things that they were mocked for just to spite their (admittedly) loathsome and hated enemy. They did this to the point where they got more pissed off about being told that the libtards were right for once and Bush did lie to them than they did about Bush lying to them and making the libtards right in the first place.

There's an episode of The Boondocks that's kind of about this phenomenon, about how 'soul food' is made of shit cuts of meat and makes you obese and ill, and originated from being fed shit food during slavery, but black people cling to it because it's been adopted as part of their identity. They literally poison themselves to spite people they hate who look down on them. A good bunch of conservative whites do the same shit with ideology, clinging to these greasy zionist rats like a liferaft to avoid ever saying that a liberal was right about anything.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
iran heavily oppresses its Jewish population the same way it treats its Christian population, they're second class citizens who Muslims lord over
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Glad you brought this up.
Life of Jews Living in Iran
Jews in Iran Describe a Life of Freedom Despite Anti-Israel Actions by Tehran
Perhaps it isn't really that bad for Jews in Iran as you say and Iran isn't simply an Islamic North Korea torture camp for non-Shia, additionally they aren't conscripted as border troops like Israel does with the Druze. Sure the IRI is paranoid about pro-Israeli activity, but it's not like they just overthrew a regime that was installed with the support of the US, UK, and Israel.
 
Prööt :DD said:
Life of Jews Living in Iran
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Testimony from Jews who have left Iran suggests more serious problems than those cited by Jews inside the country. In written testimony to a congressional subcommittee in February 1996, an Iranian Jew complained of being imprisoned for two years on trumped-up charges of spying for Israel. He also said his arrest was preceded by harassment at work and pressure to convert to Islam. Inside Iran, Jews say that they frequently receive alarmed telephone calls and letters from relatives in the United States concerned about their well-being, but that they themselves do not feel physically endangered. Their major complaint is the inability to visit family in Israel, and what they say is inadequate funding for Hebrew schools, which are administered by the Iranian Ministry of Education.

Although many Jews hold jobs in government ministries or within state-owned firms, they say they are unlikely to rise to top positions. In addition, Iran's strict Islamic law, or ''sharia,'' contains many discriminatory provisions toward non-Muslims.
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Jews who are stuck inside Iran say good things for their safety

Prööt :DD said:
Jews in Iran Describe a Life of Freedom Despite Anti-Israel Actions by Tehran
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Privately, there are grumbles about discrimination, much of it of a social or bureaucratic nature. Some complain it is impossible for Jews to get senior positions in Iran Air, the national airline, or in the national oil company. A woman teacher says she has been passed by for promotion several times because she is Jewish and now hopes to emigrate to Los Angeles. A car-parts dealer says Jews have to wait much longer for travel documents and exit visas.

The most pressing complaint is that, despite many petitions to parliament, Jewish schools must open on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath. Like so many other Iranians, those at the Abrishami synagogue are relying on the new president, Mohamad Khatami, to support them.
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you really didnt read your articles did you? forcing shabbat to be violated is one of the worst things you can do to religious Jews

Prööt :DD said:
additionally they aren't conscripted as border troops like Israel does with the Druze.
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druze volunteered to be conscripted. druze are also not punished for refusing and if you're a religious druze you can avoid it

israel also put itself at risk to defend the druze of syria vs HTS raiders
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
you really didnt read your articles did you? forcing shabbat to be violated is one of the worst things you can do to religious Jews
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One of the worst things you can do to anybody is killing their children in cold blood because you feel like it, and yet you're a big fan of the army that does it on the regular.

I'm not super surprised that a theocracy makes life harder for people who don't follow the state religion, it's just mild compared to the hysterical propaganda you guys use to justify your bloodlust.
 
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