Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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China has a huge merchant navy and has made significant investments in its navy.
The difference between you and Stud is that you aren't stupid.

China is trying very hard to learn "how to military". You have to understand Chinese military tradition, going back a thousand years, has been based on one farce or another. China has no military experts or innovation because they have never had an innovator. Maybe go back far enough and you get cool guya like Sun Tzu and rocketry, basically mythical legends at this point.

For them to actually operate with any sort of logistical stability and operational lethality they have to shake off a century of the military being an anti-rebelion propaganda machine. They are seemingly self aware of this at least, but their determination to change is an open question.

They truly are starting from scratch in terms of running operations and tacticaly relevent factors.

China right now is solving its problems the best way it can. Plugging holes and trying to create tactical over match. For example:

"We need missles that shoot further then theirs."
"We need more boats then they have."
"We need modern uniforms and camofluage."
"We need stealth and landing craft."
"We need over seas bases."

But they have no idea how it actually plays out so that they can force these (extremely short term) advantages. The best they can manage is to plug gaps they see, but have no clue on exactly how and why we do the things we do, all the way down to basic soldiering and training.
 
This was true in the revolutionary war aswelll btw while most of the British doctrine was still based in line battles American troops favored decapitation strikes with proto marksmen
This actually isn't true, its the romanticized version of the story. We just sucked at modern warfare at the time. G.W. would have given his right arm for a regiment of well disciplined heavy infantry like the British had.
 
Who's winning? Trump's approach of "Kill the leaders and their families" is a daring stratagem. It's fun watching brown people complain that you can't play to win.
Honestly, this isn't even playing to win. Start targeting electrical infrastructure, pipelines, roads, rail, dams and ports and with the rate they can deliver JDAMs to targets within a week the entire country would be starving in the dark and praying for death. (It's worth noting this is frequently how real wars end.)
 
The difference between you and Stud is that you aren't stupid.

China is trying very hard to learn "how to military". You have to understand Chinese military tradition, going back a thousand years, has been based on one farce or another. China has no military experts or innovation because they have never had an innovator. Maybe go back far enough and you get cool guya like Sun Tzu and rocketry, basically mythical legends at this point.

For them to actually operate with any sort of logistical stability and operational lethality they have to shake off a century of the military being an anti-rebelion propaganda machine. They are seemingly self aware of this at least, but their determination to change is an open question.

They truly are starting from scratch in terms of running operations and tacticaly relevent factors.

China right now is solving its problems the best way it can. Plugging holes and trying to create tactical over match. For example:

"We need missles that shoot further then theirs."
"We need more boats then they have."
"We need modern uniforms and camofluage."
"We need stealth and landing craft."
"We need over seas bases."

But they have no idea how it actually plays out so that they can force these (extremely short term) advantages. The best they can manage is to plug gaps they see, but have no clue on exactly how and why we do the things we do, all the way down to basic soldiering and training.
B-but China has naval base in Djibouti!

Never mind that Djibouti is a 6,800 mile sea voyage to China. Never mind that Djibouti sits on the Bab-al-Mandab, so to resupply there a Chinese fleet would have to get through the USN first. Never mind that there are no other Chinese naval bases in between Djibouti and China. Never mind that China's navy doesn't have the logistics to sail a "flotilla" non-stop 6,800 miles to Djibouti, or sail 2,100 miles non-stop from Hainan to the Arabian sea. Those are also the short routes, if they sail through Malacca. Which the US might just have something to say about. Never mind that even if the Chinese ships could get there and they sent all three of their carriers... that's about 100 naval jet fighters total. All their carriers have a significantly smaller amount of planes than the Nimitz or Ford classes. So the Lincoln and Ford's air wings alone would badly outnumber them. Never mind our land-based air

But no China could totally send ships and stop us in our tracks
 
He's given a name for the first royalist militia we now know of on Iran's ground: 'Immortal Guards'
that is one hell of a warhammer sounding name
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This has been a consistent bitch about American military doctrine for over a century. The French bitched about it in World War 1 when the US Army refused to participate in meat waves, and instead opted for combined arms and small until offensive, the Germans bitched about it in world war 2 in which American infantry refused to charge emplaced machine guns and instead were glorified air strike coordinators, and the Russians and Arabs have bitched about it since the end of World War 2 that America just refuses to meat grinder its troops and equipment like real men instead of cowards.

Remind me though, who is the global hegemony right now after a century of doing things our way?
The combined bomber offensive alone dispels the notion that Americans have always been inherently risk-averse. I don't think US serviceman who fought in Market Garden, the Bulge, or Okinawa would agree that they were just kicking back, smoking Lucky Strikes, and calling in airstrikes on soyraging Germans or Japs the whole time.
 
Honestly, this isn't even playing to win. Start targeting electrical infrastructure, pipelines, roads, rail, dams and ports and with the rate they can deliver JDAMs to targets within a week the entire country would be starving in the dark and praying for death. (It's worth noting this is frequently how real wars end.)
Funny how all the revolutionary larpers obsessed with Shermanposting suddenly scream about war crimes the second you target an enemy using a school as a base.
 
How is China going to get a "flotilla" to the Arabian sea lol. How is China going to get jet fighters to Iran lol. Magic carpet?
On larger boats, duh. I'm not talking about an armada that can btfo the USN. Just a group of ships to partake in a mission to secure the Strait. A flotilla, isn't that the right word in English?

The difference between you and Stud is that you aren't stupid.
Thank you for the :optimistic: .
 
Last night i got a notification that China had sent ships to the gulf Hormuz, i assume that's either false or th a t there's amassive grain of salt so what happened if anything?
 
...a Chinese fleet would have to get through the USN first. ...Which the US might just have something to say about. ... All their carriers have a significantly smaller amount of planes than the Nimitz or Ford classes. So the Lincoln and Ford's air wings alone would badly outnumber them. Never mind our land-based air
Do you have an uneven number of chromosomes? We're talking about Chinese ships in the context of Trump hoping that China sends ships to assist the US.
 

A British man is among 20 people who have been charged in the United Arab Emirates under cybercrime laws in connection with filming and posting material related to Iranian attacks on the country.

The 60-year-old man, understood to be a tourist who was visiting Dubai, was charged under a law that prohibits sharing material that could disturb public security.


The case was highlighted by Detained in Dubai, an organisation that provides legal assistance to individuals in the UAE.

While restrictions on filming attacks during conflict are not unusual globally, the case has attracted attention because of the UAE’s reputation as a magnet for influencers whose livelihoods depend on constant filming and posting. Despite the law, footage from recent Iranian attacks has been widely spread on social media.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...xistential-threat-as-foreigners-flee-conflict
Radha Stirling, the head of Detained in Dubai, said the unnamed man, who is from London, had been charged along with 20 other people after police found a video of an Iranian missile strike in Dubai on his phone, despite the fact he had apparently deleted the video from his phone immediately when challenged.

According to the official case summary, those accused are alleged to have used an information network or information technology tool to broadcast, publish, republish or circulate false news, rumours or provocative propaganda that may incite public opinion or disturb public security.

The charges sound extremely vague but serious on paper. In reality, the alleged conduct could be something as simple as sharing or commenting on a video that is already circulating online,” said Stirling in a statement.

“Under UAE cybercrime laws, the person who originally posts content can be charged, but so can anyone who reshapes, reposts or comments on it.”

One video can quickly lead to dozens of people facing criminal charges. Penalties in such cases can include up to two years in prison, fines ranging from 20,000 AED (£4,000) to AED 200,000, or both, and foreign nationals will also face deportation.

Stirling warned that the risk is compounded because multiple counts can be applied, meaning a person who reposts several clips or articles could theoretically face cumulative charges and multiple sentences, even where the actions were entirely innocent.

There are countless images, videos and news reports circulating online about the conflict. People understandably assume that if something is already widely shared or published by media outlets, it must be acceptable to comment on or repost it. In the UAE, that assumption can be extremely dangerous,” she said.

“Journalists have travelled to Dubai specifically to film missile interceptions, sending footage to editors abroad who then publish it from outside the country. But once that material appears online, residents and visitors inside the UAE who share or comment on it could suddenly find themselves accused of spreading rumours or damaging public security.”

The case comes amid the imposition of tight new rules on journalists and members of the public, including visiting foreigners, during a time of high tensions in the Middle East.

Restrictions in Iran are particularly severe, while Gulf monarchies, which have been targeted by unprecedented drone and missile attacks from Iran, have also imposed tighter controls.

Israel has barred publication of content deemed a direct security threat, such as live broadcasts showing city skylines during missile attacks, images that identify locations of missile impact sites or information on military plans and air defences.

Governments seem particularly concerned about images that disclose the location of missile and drone strikes, or that show projectiles being intercepted.

AFP, one of the few international news outlets with a Tehran bureau, said this week it has been unable to visit the scene of the strike on a school in the southern town of Minab, where Iranian authorities say more than 150 people, many of them children, were killed by a US Tomahawk missile.

LOL
 
People have no idea, how much intelligence you can gather from those videos. Ukraine has been cracking down hard on those videos as well. Early war, Russia successfully used many videos to correct their fire and destroy Ukrainian AA-capabilities, when people intentionally or unintentionally revealed their locations with videos posted on social media.
 
IDF's Persian spokesperson publishes footage exclusive to his channel (not published in english or hebrew) of Israeli strikes on engineering vehicles that were being used to try to rebuild the missile storage sites.




New footage from the strike and its aftermath:

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We just sucked at modern warfare at the time. G.W. would have given his right arm for a regiment of well disciplined heavy infantry like the British had.
Greatest 2A story in American history is that the battle of bunker hill where Brits lost 1/3 of their officers was conducted by a bunch of militiamen with a couple rich guys privately owned cannons. Any time some democratic faggot tries to disarm people with invalid paper I think about it.
 
More like it's a $600 PSA AR-15, with some Temu optics and lasers and all the other equipment is from AliExpress too. A lot of the Chinese stuff might look good when you are looking at it from far away. I think I can pretty confidently say that most of it is just cheaper ripoffs from Soviet/Russian technology and whatever they have reverse-engineered from Western stuff. I'm dubious how good they are in real life.
but iran's chinese radars are detecting stealth aircraft and allowing them to be shot down, right? the iranians have been taking down all kinds of stealth craft, right?

We should nuke England after we're done with Iran, just to be safe. They're already in the middle of undergoing their own Islamic Revolution anyway.
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so it was literally trump saying that most of the countries were, and giving a kick in the ass to a couple of deadbeats. just remember this is what the doomers tell you isn't happening when it's right in front of your face.
 
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