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Should be a wild four years.

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The online drama has been
Nick Fuentes "They're going to bomb Iran, this is another neocon Israel first institution"
BAP Sphere "No it isn't you're a thirdworlder retard"
for the entire time Trump has been in office. I was hopeful for Trump tbh. Do we uhh are we trusting the plan? I don't even begin to pretend I understand geopolitics but from an outsiders point of view all the bad people are cheering this on, the Australian PM etc
 
Edgy But Dull said:
Scott Presler brought up an interesting point: What are the odds this turns the Iranian Americans into a permanent voter block for Republicans like the Cuban Americans? There's far less of them than Cuban Americans but their concentration in Democrat areas like LA and the Bay Area might be enough of a push to turn a safe seat into a place the Dems now have to funnel campaign money to instead of elsewhere.
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Cernovich has commented on this in the past, and whether you like him or not, he does have a front row seat for observing the zeitgeist of the SoCal Persian diaspora. The last few times he's talked about it, his read was still that most educated Iranians in the US were still generally immigrant shitlibs from central casting.
 
Trump bombs Iran, Khamenei dies, and then Congress tries to rein in war powers they happily gave away over the past several decades. It's almost a win-win, if only Congress were serious about it and wasn't just bitching about Orange Man.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Trump bombs Iran, Khamenei dies, and then Congress tries to rein in war powers they happily gave away over the past several decades. It's almost a win-win, if only Congress were serious about it and wasn't just bitching about Orange Man.
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This is a lose-lose in every way imaginable. Either Iran continues targetting gulf oil refineries, spiking oil prices in America forcing surrender, leading to a bunch of dead troops and a permanently humiliated GOP that will be voted out of existence, or we continue on the war, cementing the republicans as the Israel party and permanently losing the youth vote which will destroy any long-term hope for the party.

America will be destroyed all because of its slavish subservience to Israel.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Trump bombs Iran, Khamenei dies, and then Congress tries to rein in war powers they happily gave away over the past several decades. It's almost a win-win, if only Congress were serious about it and wasn't just bitching about Orange Man.
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Congress right now is so pathetic that I feel like they’d fag up everything even if we were being invaded.

Jasmine Crockett and AOC would be up there defending it like it was just another BLM riot.

Let’s just hope that as his administration closes out, Trump can pull a George Washington and set an example for restraint. Right now, though, we need someone who isn’t afraid to take some initiative
 
Joy Jay said:
This is a lose-lose in every way imaginable. Either Iran continues targetting gulf oil refineries, spiking oil prices in America forcing surrender, leading to a bunch of dead troops and a permanently humiliated GOP that will be voted out of existence, or we continue on the war, cementing the republicans as the Israel party and permanently losing the youth vote which will destroy any long-term hope for the party.

America will be destroyed all because of its slavish subservience to Israel.
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Sounds cool, come back in a year or two and we can discuss whether these predictions came to pass.
 
GameratePTSD said:
Nick Fuentes "They're going to bomb Iran, this is another neocon Israel first institution. We should instead vote for Gavin Newsome and become Democras to show that MAGA is dead!"
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Fixed that for you.
Diana Moon Glampers said:
Sounds cool, come back in a year or two and we can discuss whether these predictions came to pass.
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Doubt that's going to happen
 
I haven't followed the wars events closely so I wanna ask what was the catalyst for this war starting? did Iran do something? Did America/Israel strike first and that's what caused Iran to attack US bases in neighboring countries? Is this a response to the protests in Iran recently? I honestly don't know and don't trust the usual sources to rely on them.
 
Diana Moon Glampers said:
Sounds cool, come back in a year or two and we can discuss whether these predictions came to pass.
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The problem is people like Fuentes predicted this a long time ago and were talking about this up until recently. The TRS guys, too. People are going to gravitate to these sources if they can accurately explain future events. If your counter offer is guys with Charlie Kirk profile pics talking about how they're sexually attracted to Hegseth we're all going down the drain.
 
AN/ALR56 said:
I don't think the left would stoop that low to defend putin, but russia? surely.
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If some of the Dissent Right hadn't defended Putin/Russia, I 100 percent believe the left would have. The ukraine russia situation is so damn weird. Nazi uzov being defended by the left, or called fake news. Russia being defended as some home to white nationalism when you have dugin right there cheering on some of hte most gay race commie shit you've ever seen. all the jew oligarchs being close to putin, and all zelensky himself being jewish. It's fucking baffling how confusing that shit is.

(side note, I was at one point sort of a fan of putin, like some fucking idiot, but mostly, I'm a fan of russia and russians like tarkovsky and dostoevsky, some of the best stuff comes out of russia)

It wouldn't shock me in the least if Trump decided it was time to put a stop to the war, and crush putin or take him out the left and the DR would defend him and scream about Trump.
 
Eekum Bokum said:
I haven't followed the wars events closely so I wanna ask what was the catalyst for this war starting? did Iran do something? Did America/Israel strike first and that's what caused Iran to attack US bases in neighboring countries? Is this a response to the protests in Iran recently? I honestly don't know and don't trust the usual sources to rely on them.
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I'm glad you asked! Here's a fantastic post about it, by our nigger @Ghostse
You literally will not find a better answer on this whole website:
Ghostse

Post in thread 'Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel'

Charnel Ground said:
Like Null said upthread, why haven't we been doing it this way the whole time? I was worried for a bit, but it looks like they're actually following through on not getting into "stupid wars and dumb conflicts" by striking so precisely and decisively.
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This will be buried, but you ask a good question and it deserves a solid answer. Hopefully this covers things for you and any other archeologists that dig up this post buried in shitposts

To be massively and unneedingly fair to previous leaders, it wasn't really possible until just now.

they didn't do anything to try to make it...
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Eekum Bokum said:
I haven't followed the wars events closely so I wanna ask what was the catalyst for this war starting? did Iran do something? Did America/Israel strike first and that's what caused Iran to attack US bases in neighboring countries? Is this a response to the protests in Iran recently? I honestly don't know and don't trust the usual sources to rely on them.
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I haven't been keeping up on news lately because I went to Chicago this weekend but I'm pretty sure this was a preemptive strike on our part.
 
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