Debate Betonhaus on women's rights and rape fantasies - ITT a penis pumper who doesn't know how to properly lubricate thinks he knows what's best for women

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Among Us Gaming said:
I'll grant you that, most BP users on this site tend to not be terribly reasonable in that manner and I jumped the gun, so my fault there.
That said, I'd also suggest you misread Ugly One's statement as well, given that his point was not "women do not contribute to the war effort" but rather "a society cannot conscript women into military service" the implications therein being that one, most conscripts are said general infantry, and that two, there would be something uniquely cruel and unfair about doing such a thing, or at least thats how I read it.
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@The Ugly One ?

But a couple of data points (for no specific agenda) about the draft and Vietnam specifically. Just consider it interesting (to me) trivia.

  • 2/3 of those who served during Vietnam were volunteers; 1/3 were drafted; 25% of those in combat zones were draftees, and 75% were volunteers
  • The draft disproportionately impacted working and lower class people (due to the deferment classifications available), and at points 3/4 of the people serving in Vietnam were from those social classes
    • American forces in Vietnam were 55% working-class, 25% percent poor, 20% middle-class. Many soldiers came from urban areas or farming communities.
  • An alternative to the draft was joining up, which meant a greater opportunity to select branch and job function
  • Even among draftees, though many landed in the army infantry, many placed to other roles due to performance on assessments
  • There were about 27 million American men eligible for military service between 1964 and 1973. About 60%, 15-16 million, were granted deferments, mostly for education but also physical or mental conditions, personal obligations, or certain occupations (or less-documented reasons for certain people). Of the remaining 40%, somewhere between 1.738M and 2.215M men were drafted into military service during the war years [have seen both numbers in multiple sources but not sure of the differences in the calculations, so including the range]
  • About 2.5 million people total served in Vietnam, so based on the 1/3 - 2/3 division, that would be about 833k draftees in Vietnam, or 3% of the eligible population. [Fact-checked myself: it was actually about 648k draftees served in-country (whether direct combat or support roles)] [also 25% combat draftee rate would = 625k]
  • The rest of the service during that period remained in the US or served on bases in Europe.
 
Kiwisee said:
And what sort of education have you sought, within universities or colleges?

You harp on women having no “trad skills”, but I have yet to see any evidence of you seeking education to become a top 10% earner. Can’t expect a trad wife if you’re not going to commit to becoming a trad husband.

Speaking of trad men:
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You all say you want to “retvrn to tradition”,. I have yet to see a single one of you misogynists Poirotmaxxxing. At least have a well groomed appearance, or go home!
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I really love being a lesbian while being great at Trad Skills like cooking and sewing because it makes every meal a bit tastier and every garment a bit comfier knowing my skill will never be exploited by some faggot who spends his time thinking about HYPER COCK.
 
Betonhaus said:
I don't owe you my attention and I have no need for your favor.
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Betonhaus said:
I've yet to see a valid argument here. Granted I skipped like a dozen pages or so because it was just nonstop ree-ing and strawman attacks
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Kiwisee said:
You all say you want to “retvrn to tradition”,. I have yet to see a single one of you misogynists Poirotmaxxxing. At least have a well groomed appearance, or go home!
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It will never work for our pug. Hercule was extremely autistic but he also was extremely smart, principled and most importantly straight.
 
Illuminati Order Official said:
It will never work for our pug. Hercule was extremely autistic but he also was extremely smart, principled and most importantly straight.
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Most men into dressing to the nines day in day out are gay, which OP isn't. There is a mid level of dressing smartly according to the situation, which OP might also not be into. Straight men who want to do well, do that.
Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
There were about 27 million American men eligible for military service between 1964 and 1973. About 60%, 15-16 million, were granted deferments, mostly for education but also physical or mental conditions, personal obligations, or certain occupations (or less-documented reasons for certain people). Of the remaining 40%, somewhere between 1.738M and 2.215M men were drafted into military service during the war years [have seen both numbers in multiple sources but not sure of the differences in the calculations, so including the range]
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One of the great things about JFK is he got his dad Joe to pull strings so he could actually serve. His physical ailments would've excluded him without any notable difficulty. While Trump and his bone spurs are notorious, he wasn't alone among men of his class.
 
If Idiotron from the other MD thread can get banned, hopefully this faggot follows through as well. Bonus points if he makes an OnionFarms account.
 
Chuds are so obsessed with proliferating the idea that women are the REAL degenerates who fantasize about being raped by billionaire werewolves because it allows them to handwave away the very real violence against us. They always reference either 50 Shades of Grey - a 15 year-old book that I never hear actual women talk about - or an uncited study where half of women surveyed stated they "fantasized" about sexual assault. I looked into it. The study is from 2009, published in The Journal of Sex Research and titled: "The nature of women's rape fantasies: an analysis of prevalence, frequency, and contents." It’s paywalled, but according to the abstract, the 62% of women reporting these fantasies included women who had "aversive" fantasies - as in, they feared being sexually assaulted walking home at night. Useless data.

When men discuss the fact that they are the majority of non-sexual violent crimes and war casualties, women don't say, "uh, but you play Call of Duty and watch MMA fights, so you must secretly want to be punched or shot at, and also you shouldn't vote."
 
Mamimi said:
"The Nature of Women's Rape Fantasies" [...] Useless data.
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A well-thought out argument. Unfortunately, @Betonhaus has proclaimed himself the holder of Irrefutable Rationality, which tautologically means that you are incapable of demonstrating flaws in anything he says, stalker child. Enjoy femoid prison.

And why does OP do this? Because OP is a faggot.
 
Mamimi said:
50 Shades of Grey - a 15 year-old book that I never hear actual women talk about
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I wouldn't really expect them to talk about it? It's smut, you either find it sexy or you don't. Those who read it and were into it at the time simply consumed smut and moved on to next smut.
But it was a bestseller for a reason, it found an audience.

Mamimi said:
It’s paywalled, but according to the abstract, the 62% of women reporting these fantasies included women who had "aversive" fantasies - as in, they feared being sexually assaulted walking home at night. Useless data.

When men discuss the fact that they are the majority of non-sexual violent crimes and war casualties, women don't say, "uh, but you play Call of Duty and watch MMA fights, so you must secretly want to be punched or shot at, and also you shouldn't vote."
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Would argue that call of duty plays into an aversive fantasy about violence - it's about shooting the other guy before he shoots you, getting shot is a loss condition, so it'd be a bit weird to accuse someone of only playing it because they want to get shot.
From what little I've seen, rape-fantasy fiction doesn't seem to play into an aversive fantasy about rape? the stories seem to just be about the heroine getting raped. I would assume that the overlap between those women reporting aversive fantasies and those consuming these books is minimal.
 
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Inside your walls said:
Very telling that men immediately want to retvrn to the Greece or Roman civilization, both civilizations that were ran by homosocial pederasts who only used women to further their bloodline and fucked little boys or men under the pretense of "male bonding" and "beautiful youth" because they thought bonding with women was icky and feminine
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Apologies for not responding sooner, but I as a man don't want a wholesale return to either. And not just because of this degeneracy.

Socrates' philosophy of self-examination got him executed on false charges of "introducing strange gods" and "corrupting the youth" when all he really did was be really annoying by questioning ideas held by a lot of people. Apparently. Plato's our primary source about him and Plato isn't exactly objective about his mentor. Regardless, I don't want to be in Greek society if it's going to murder people for rocking the boat.

The Roman Empire persecuted the early church and the Imperial Cult demanded that you worship the emperor as a god. No thanks.
 
AMHOLIO said:
I hope @Betonhaus never stops posting so we can always talk about hyper cock. :tomgirl:
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You don't need me to talk about hyper cocks, stop using me as an excuse to indulge in your fetishes.

Rozzy said:
@Idiotron had pedophilic leanings so his ban was justified. @Betonhaus had a one month ban for socking and is the current owner of a pink triangle, so is treading on thin ice ATM.
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I'm not currently socking and the pink triangle was a unilateral decision from a female mod.
 
Right, I nearly forgot to mention this until I saw a post from @Betonhaus again. I was done posting in this thread, but I want to share this:
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:story: I love this, it perfectly encapsulates the current attitude of this place. Call for Total Nigger Death? Hell yeah! Call for Total Tranny Death? Of course! Care to watch people dying? There's a thread for that! Want to laugh at some random troon dying? He was probably a pedophile anyway. Troons suck because they deny reality, after all. Point out a basic fact about reality that women don't like? Banned. :(
 
UERISIMILITUDO said:
Right, I nearly forgot to mention this until I saw a post from @Betonhaus again. I was done posting in this thread, but I want to share this:
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:story: I love this, it perfectly encapsulates the current attitude of this place. Call for Total Nigger Death? Hell yeah! Call for Total Tranny Death? Of course! Care to watch people dying? There's a thread for that! Want to laugh at some random troon dying? He was probably a pedophile anyway. Troons suck because they deny reality, after all. Point out a basic fact about reality that women don't like? Banned. :(
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So uh.
Rape is natural for nonsapient beings.
But once you gain the ability to reason and form social groups. Not really. Good try though. Maybe onion farms is more your speed?
 
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