🍗 Deathfat Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

[PurpleEater]

Perhaps you are more up-to-date on the PSHP lore, but who are these two new fatties we see in their cruise videos?
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At first, I thought the guy was just a friendly random in their "sailing away vibes" story, but they clearly know him.

Also, there's several landwhale sightings in the background of their videos, most notably a fat bald dude in Mickey pyjamas behind them at lunch, so I guess they really are in their element here.
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Oh yes I mentioned them briefly in my recap; I'm not sure either, and it's odd the gorls don't introduce them. They're doing a long-form vlog too, maybe they'll do it then, but who knows?

 

[The Mighty Banth]

The core tenet of FA is that it is not possible to lose weight. If they see someone else losing weight, a crab escaping the bucket, this tenet is disproven. This raises some awkward questions about the grievance and victimhood narrative, which threatens their self-esteem. If that person can lose weight, why can't you? Therefore, the crab must be dragged back into the bucket to avoid such uncomfortable thoughts, or denigrated and symbolically excommunicated if the crab does manage to escape. It's about keeping up the grievance and victimhood narrative in the name of protecting their self-esteem.

The grievance and victimhood narrative must be true to keep blaming others for their unhappiness. If it isn't, then their misery might be their own fault, and we can't have that. The individualism of escaping the bucket requires personal responsibility, something that is anathema to the crabs.

I tried an image search of excommunicated crab, just for fun. Got this image. Not exactly relevant but too fun not to share.

 

[JaneThough]

TLDR: She makes it very clear she's been using false rape reports to get housing. She's got a whole list of rape crisis organizations with shelters and at least one assigned care worker. We've wondered why she wasn't homeless, and this is why. Snip

Sorry to bump from all the way back here, but I just learned about her today. You have to be a real piece of shit to end up arrested after getting kicked out of a hospital. I’ve seen what they endure. I mean, Steven Assanti wasn’t even arrested and he threw his piss on nurses.

Ps I don’t know why these serial hospital abusers are so dumb but as soon as you show up in the ER telling them what you need, they are onto you.

You're not the next George Floyd.

more like Gorge Floyd

Ugh I’m so sad she’s inactive and I just found her

 

[It's Never Leprosy]

@The Mighty Banth HELP WHY ARE THEY JAPANESE

 

[FarmVille]

Happy Valentines Day KF

Spoiler

 

[The Mighty Banth]

@The Mighty Banth HELP WHY ARE THEY JAPANESE

That is the mystery of the excommunicated crab.

 

[PurpleEater]

Hello, PSPH fans!! It's time for Day Two of the cruise, but first, here's a video of Sarah dancing at last night's silent disco for your viewing pleasure!!!

Spoiler: Ahoy, welcome aboard!!

First thing in the morning, Steph announces that the gorls are getting massages. She says they've never gotten massages before (surprising to me, honestly), so they're really excited. Afterward, they're all totally blissed out, and Steph starts to talk about how the therapist said she has chronic pain in her shoulders and back, which "makes sense because..." before it cuts out. HMMMM lol. Semper Fi to the therapists who worked on them.

Afterwards, it's time for breakfast!! Steph loads up her plate with asparagus, chocolate chip pancakes, eggs, tomatoes, bacon, fruit, hash browns (hey, at least it's colorful?)...while, shockingly, Sarah opts for a light fruit salad. JUST KIDDING (but for a second I was truly shocked)!!!! Ashley clarifies that her sister Sarah already wolfed down all her food, which included pancakes, eggs, bacon, and hash browns. The rest of the gorls are still eating. Yum! Only 5000 more calories to go today!

As always, Katie made a big show of how she's Gluten-Free which means she went up to the counter to order and didn't get anything directly from the buffet, I guess, even though you'd think she'd know what had gluten in it by now and what didn't, though she's a carb-a-holic so of course we know she won't stick to protein and fruit. Heaven forbid. She got waffles, eggs with cheese and bacon, and hash browns (which she adds a dab of butter to, lolfat). There is not a single piece of fruit in sight, nor a piece of asparagus, but don't worry, she'll surely have some in puree'd form later when they binge drink in a few hours!

Right afterwards, the gorls go get breakfast-dessert, aka super sugary lattes (Steph's includes mocha, strawberry, marshmallows and what looks like a cookie....Jesus Christ....which Katie also gets), while Deanna shows off her Valentine's Day outfit of the day. The edible straws are back, much to Steph and Ashley's delight! "I love a straw that's also a snack," Ashley gushes.

Next it's time to break out the swimsuits and enjoy the pool! Sarah thoughtfully brings the gorls some water in paper cups (what happened to their pricey tumblers?)

Katie, whose life revolves around going on vacations, whines "I haven't relaxed in 10 years." Being a perpetual bitch, I actually believe that.

How's the water, you ask? Well, the gorls admit it's a tad warm, and that they feel like dumplings in soup. I'm not sure what they expected on this cruise, but so far, it doesn't look worth the money at all, at least not for single 30-something's, but I digress.

After boiling for a bit in the overly warm water, the gorls begin their day drinking, starting with the Drink of the Day.

There is, I kid you not, a FORTY-FIVE MINUTE WAIT for the water slide, so I guess after baking in the soup-y pool water that you share with dozens of other people, you can then stand in the sun and bake while waiting in line to go down a slide that everyone else is rubbing their butt cheeks on. Sounds fun!

All that sitting around has got the gorls hungry. At lunchtime, Steph loads up her plate again with BBQ chicken, collard greens, potato ssalad mac and cheese and the like (which, to be fair, includes vegetables and lean protein), and was sure to add coleslaw and potato salad from the burger place to "compare." Deanna got chicken fingers and fries after her "pre-lunch ice cream cone." Where do we think we're at calorie-wise so far, Kiwis? Ashley got a burrito and a side of two pieces of brisket, to taste of course, and someone called Robbie (one of the mystery deathfats from the previous episode) said he got "two ice cream cones because I ate earlier."

Then it's time for lunch-dessert! Steph is excited to show off her "first cone of the cruise." Keep in mind this cruise is only three days. Deanna is on her second cone of the cruise, and day. Feeling queasy yet, Kiwis?

More soon!

 

[failed mist]

Is it me, or is the HAEs/FA movement in a funk overall?

The real enemy of the HAEs was always their Gen X eating disorder moms. You know, the ones who would say they're "being soooo bad, tee hee" when eating a slice of cake. The ones who would gnaw on nasty 100 calorie diet bars, and try to develop a taste for cabbage soup. Easy to forget what an obnoxious, self-hating martyr culture that was.

GLP-1s both validated and obliterated the worldviews of both mother and daughter. Suddenly, discipline doesn't matter AND weight loss is easy. The generational war is over and nobody won.

I'd hang out with the PSPH girls over the almond moms of 1998, though. At least those fat chicks are JOLLY!

 

[JambledUpWords]

I remember the diet crazes of the 2000s, which were very much a carry over from the 1990s. Everything was “low fat,” and actual butter and eggs got demonized. Then you had Splenda being put in a bunch of stuff to cut calories, but ended up giving certain foods and drinks weird aftertastes. The prevailing idea at the time was that eating fat made you fat, so food companies started to market things as “low fat,” or “zero fat.” It was hard to not develop some sort of eating disorder for certain people in a time when you had people obsessing over every calorie they ate. I remember those yogurt commercials marketed towards women that had the woman choosing between a yogurt and a slice of cake like it was a life or death situation. I’m definitely not nostalgic for that aspect of the 2000s.

That said, fat acceptance way over corrected to where even the concept of basic nutrition doesn’t matter, and that it’s impossible to lose weight. On top of that, they kept writing articles demanding men find them sexy, clothing companies to not charge them extra for extra fabric used, and for planes to give free second or third seats just to fit. It was extremely entitled, and didn’t make people actually want to help them. They would also insist that calories don’t matter while having 1000+ calorie breakfasts, which contributed to their weight gain and health issues from it. I wouldn’t say it was only Ozempic that is killing off the fat acceptance movement though, as the most prominent proponents have either died at a young age, or are now experiencing serious health issues because age isn’t on their side anymore. People notice that, and ones that don’t want to end up that way have started to take their own health more seriously by losing weight (something the fat acceptance adherents have claimed impossible), so now there are far fewer people within the online fat acceptance community compared to the late 2000s and 2010s.

 

[Falcon Sebben]

food companies started to market things as “low fat,” or “zero fat.”

I remember seeing a bag of marshmallows with "0% Fat" written on them. That's how bad it was. Something that was literally made of sugar and gelatin was marketed as having "0% Fat".

And now that the big demon is gluten you see foods that are "0% gluten" like potato chips.

I've come to the realization that people have no clue what these things actually are so they're just drawn to foods like this because they're really stupid.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

And now that the big demon is gluten you see foods that are "0% gluten" like potato chips.

I haven't heard much about gluten lately, wasn't that an early-to-mid 2010s thing? These days with Tiktok and shit the most retarded nutrition fads come and go pretty quickly. I still hear about keto a bit, but with GLP-1s catching on the most common "diet" you hear about anymore is just intermittent fasting or OMAD. (I still think it's extremely fat to consider not eating between 7 pm and 9 am an actual "fast" but there are evidently far more people who think they'll starve to death if they don't eat every 2 hours than I thought). There's also the gimmick of "protein" versions of snack foods that just add some pea protein powder or whey in regular junk food (or replace some of the wheat flour with chickpea or lentil flour) then jack up the price by 600%. The texture is nearly always fucking disgusting and the protein content isn't even usually that high.

I guess the current year fake-healthy advertising gimmick might be "plant based"? Beyond Meat didn't seem to catch on as much as companies seemed to hope, but oat/almond/hemp/etc milk sure did. I swear I've seen "plant based" on all kinds of things that don't particularly need that specification, including cereal, tomato sauce, fruit juice, margarine, and potato chips iirc.

I've come to the realization that people have no clue what these things actually are so they're just drawn to foods like this because they're really stupid.

Stupid, desperately trying to rationalize their bad habits, and/or larping as a person who is health conscious and restrictive with their diet without actually putting in any effort to stop binge eating all kinds of crap. There is a reason why the "gluten free" bitches and junk food vegans are fat more often than not.

 

[JaneThough]

I haven't heard much about gluten lately

It’ll make your dick fly off

 

[Potatis Salad]

Today I bring you a couple of tasty tidbits from a Facebook HAES parenting group I belong to.

First off, we have an anonymous post by a mom. Her teen is getting fat. This kid enjoys a particular food, and does not realize that this food is extremely calorie-dense. Mom refuses to state what the food is, but says the teen will sit there and plow through enough of it to constitute a whole day's worth of calories. Mom is self-aware enough to note that the kid is eating "out of boredom," this is not a growth spurt situation or a varsity athlete who needs the fuel.

Mom refuses to stop buying the food, nor will she inform the kid that the food is exceptionally fattening: to do so would be diet culture! Having tried nothing, she is now "all out of ideas." Help, HAES fam! What to do?!?!?!

Spoiler: text of the post

Suggestions on how to approach specific foods that have become... unhelpful... for a teen?
My teen (almost 16) has a snack combo that they like and eat out of ease, out of boredom/restlessness and of course because it tastes good. There's nothing wrong with the foods of course, and one of the items is an ingredient that we keep on hand because it also gets used in my one of my teen's favourite/safe meals.
What's complicated is that the snack is as substantial as a meal, but it doesn't feel that way. It's easy to make and eat, and physically pretty small. When they're in a phase of eating this snack, they could eat the equivalent of a full day's worth of food, on top of their meals and other snacks, without noticing or really thinking about it. This contributes to weight gain that - and this is the key - affects their ability to function both physically and psychologically.
I'm not sure how to approach this with them. I could stop buying the foods (or not keep them on hand all the time), but that would affect one of their favourite meals. I could tell them how energy-dense this snack is because I'm sure they don't actually know, but I don't want to encourage calorie-counting and that could also lead to shame for eating these foods (which, again, are perfectly good foods and include a key ingredient from one of their favorite meals).
I'm out of ideas and could use your help...
Other info for context:
(1) I encourage and we explicitly talk about eating intuitively and listening to what your body needs. There are times when they do that easily, and there are times when they don't
(2) Their broader physical and psychological health is already supported by a team of health professionals
(3) There are other foods on hand that they could snack on

One of the group experts steps right in with a smackdown: this mom has already failed by even THINKING there is such a thing as daily calorie needs. The teen getting fat is a completely neutral phenomenon. She suggests the teen is having a growth spurt even though Mom stated that the kid is eating out of boredom.

Spoiler: text of the reply

I’m going to gently push on something here, because I think it matters.
When you describe it as “a full day’s worth of food,” that’s already a calorie lens, even if you’re trying not to make it one. And especially at almost 16, appetite swings and phases of hyper-fixating on certain foods are incredibly common. Growth spurts alone can make intake look wild for a stretch.
If the core concern is functioning … low energy, mood shifts, physical discomfort…I’d focus the conversation there rather than on the density of the snack itself. Something like, “I’ve noticed when you’re in a phase with this combo, you seem more tired/edgy/whatever you’re observing. I’m curious what your body is noticing.”
That keeps it body-based and collaborative rather than corrective.
I’d also ask yourself: if their body didn’t change at all, would this still feel urgent? That question can sometimes clarify what’s really driving the worry.

You think your teen getting fat is bad? Reckon with your wrongthink, sweaty.

Spoiler: text

I guess I’m confused. It sounds like the main/only? thing you don’t like is weight gain. In an almost-adult. I think you should probably reckon with that. There’s not really an anti-diet way to approach it…

To Nicole Dixon's comment above, Mom responds that her teen hates being fat and will spiral about it to the point of missing school. A HAES commenter chimes in advising to help the teen love being fat, rather than let them know that their favorite boredom snack contains thousands of calories. Mom reasonably asserts that letting the teen sit at home getting fatter until they magically learn to ~love their body at any size~ should perhaps not be the highest priority:

Spoiler: text of the exchange

MOM: I don't care if they gain weight. THEY care if they gain weight and THEIR caring has serious implications on their mental health and ability to function - to the point of not being able to attend school.

HAES COMMENTER: That is a big problem then, but the solution is helping them deal with how to love their changing body, not tell them that their favorite snack is making them gain weight?

MOM: There are multiple goals. What you described is DEFINITELY one. But it's not the only one.
Other goals include maintaining and building social relationships and participating meaningfully in education. There are serious risks associated with putting those on the back-burner until they love their body - not least because they're goals that are important to my teen themselves. It's complicated!

OP is in a real pickle, y'all! As HAES teaches us, it is literally impossible to talk to a teen about nutrition and bodyweight. Attempting to do so is fat-shaming. One top commenter helpfully provides some sample scripts to show how clearly insane and unreasonable such a conversation would inevitably be. Mom must not attempt this or the teen will instantly drop dead of anorexia!!!!!!!!! RIP!!!! The only solution is to say nothing and let the teen mindlessly eat.

Spoiler: text

But literally how would that go? Hey, Katie. I notice that you eat a lot of peanut butter crackers. Did you know they have 700 calories in them? or Hey Katie, you know how you’ve been getting fatter lately? I want to give you a heads up about peanut butter crackers and their role in that. Or, Hey Katie, I know we all love and cook eat peanut butter noodles all the time. But did you know if you eat peanut butter with crackers too much it will make you gain weight?

Ed.'s note: I don't think I need to point out the nanokernel of reality in HAES parenting, but I will anyway: it is bad to obsess over your kids' food intake and to teach them that they will be worthless and unlovable if they gain weight. But teaching kids about nutrition, including the effects of overeating on our bodies, is not that.

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ANYWAYZ, HAES fam, the best thing about being body posi is that it's snack time all the time! So let's leave the fat teen's mom behind and enjoy a family-sized bag of Dana Elizabeth, a tasty power user from the HAES parenting group.

Dana's latest post: bragging about her tradition of buying her kids a bunch of insanely sugary junk at a gas station on the way home to dinner. Making memories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler: text of the post

One of the fun things about not being completely strict about food rules is making memories. When I have to get gas at the maverick, we get a pre dinner donut and slushee. The kids think it’s so fun and they love it. They were so proud to tell the cashier they had pre dinner donuts.

A previous post, bragging that her kids "weren't afraid" to eat a bunch of candy and cheesecake while Mom and Dad were asleep! Parenting win!!!

Spoiler: text of the post

I’m glad my kids don’t feel like they have to hide what they eat. Husband and I slept in and the girls wanted breakfast. So they had cheesecake, Funyuns, Halloween candy, and ham. And when we came down to make breakfast, they told us they had made breakfast and what it was. I ma glad they aren’t afraid to eat what they find in the house.

A brag about her kid's Thanksgiving plate of bread, potatoes, meat, and pie. Has this kid never heard of fresh produce?

Spoiler: text

Here is what dor can look like. My kids Thanksgiving in July plate. She chose turkey lunch meat instead of ham. She wanted her pie and whipped cream on her plate instead of on the side. And she ate most of it but the pie and whipped cream went first.

...............OK it seems the kid has literally never heard of fresh produce (apples). And the mom has apparently never heard of a knife?:

Spoiler: text

I thought yall might enjoy this. My picky 11 year old had a packet of apples from the school cafeteria and started eating them. She looked at me and said whoa! This is like crunchy applesauce. Yep, applesauce has apples in it. She said she would eat apples if they came in pieces like at school. So hoping the grocery sells cut up apples.

Spoiler: SIDE NOTE: KID FEEDING SPERG

Ed.'s note: "dor" in the meat'n'bread post above refers to Ellyn Satter's "Division of Responsibility in Feeding." This is a genuinely helpful framework for drama-free feeding of kids. If you are a parent of young kids, or are planning to have them, I sincerely recommend that you check it out. The DOR mandates that parents give kids healthy meals and snacks at set times. If the kid eats it and wants more, they get more until they are satisfied. If the kid doesn't eat it, let them go and don't force them to eat. No eating between meals. If the kids come back 10 mins after lunch saying they are hungry, tough titty, the next meal/snacktime is in X minutes and they can have as much as they want at that time.

I genuinely do not understand how this HAES parenting crew has twisted the DOR to mean "unlimited candy."

Anyway, I had hoped to top this segment off with a photo of this HAES warrior and her children to see how this anti-diet stuff is working out for them, but surprisingly she has locked her Facebook down. So let's end on a discussion question instead: how can she reconcile her 11-year-old daughter's tachycardia, migraines, and serious kidney issues with the girl's desire to drink Pepsi every day (twice a day while at Disneyland!)? This is only a philosophical question, a Zen koan if you will, because this conundrum is so incredibly thorny, it is probably literally impossible to solve.

A month later, Dana has apparently seen the light about her daughter's "nightly joy" Pepsi at home, but what about the Disneyland Pepsi?!??!?! Everyone knows you get multiple daily Pepsis at Disneyland, so what is she supposed to tell her daughter about the Disneyland Pepsi?!?!?:

Spoiler: "But she loves Pepsi" (full text of both posts)

How do you help a child through a necessary diet change? My daughter’s left kidney is significantly smaller than the right and that can cause high blood pressure. The doctor has said a once a day caffeinated beverage is too much caffeine. It appears they don’t sell caffeine free regular coke. She can’t drink fake sugar due to getting migraines from it so diet caffeine free isn’t an option. She was told she could have an occasional soda. This is her nightly joy and the thought of taking it from her is hard and she cried last night. But we need to keep her heart healthy. I told her it’s not sugar related so she can have a non caffeinated soda but she loves Pepsi.

We have had to cut caffeine from our daughter’s diet because of kidney issues. We found caffeine free soda at the Mexican market and that has worked great. She gets a caffeine soda once a week when we go out to eat. And she hasn’t had any tachycardia incidents since. But we are going to Disneyland for four days. Generally a trip to Disneyland means all the food and drink you want, a free for all. Two sodas a day. She has already said I get two Pepsis a day? I don’t want to go backwards and let her have all that caffeine. But I also don’t want to ruin her Disney trip (either with no caffeine or with tachycardia incidents). I’ve been trying to find replacements but she’s not interested in anything that has full sugar and she can’t have fake sugar because of her migraine issue. How would you approach this that she can’t only have one or two Pepsis the entire trip? We can’t bring anything with us because we are flying.

 

[Poopfart]

I cant quote but holy fucking hell everything that group says is absolutely batshit insane.

“This tastes like crunchy applesauce”

What the fuck

 

[Stupid Lisa Garbageface]

That last one went from funny to sad and horrifying at lightning speed. That kid is going to die because of her mom's dumbass beliefs.

also I hate that I know this offhand but Disney serves Coca-Cola products not Pepsi

 

[Potatis Salad]

I cant quote but holy fucking hell everything that group says is absolutely batshit insane.

“This tastes like crunchy applesauce”

What the fuck

They genuinely believe that they are doing the right thing and that this practice will set their kids up for a lifetime of beneficial "intuitive eating." Under this philosophy, all foods must be treated as equally valuable, there is no difference between chocolate and broccoli. Children are not capable of understanding even rudimentary talk about nutrition, they can only "listen to their bodies" (group members suggest in complete seriousness to allow a toddler who loves orange juice to drink it until she pukes, only then she will learn how much she can drink without puking). Food must be offered freely with no hint of restriction otherwise children will develop eating disorders. Morbid obesity in children is a completely neutral phenomenon with no linked health risks. Kids being unable to run and play and participate in sports because they are obese living in bigger bodies is also morally neutral and free of wider implications.

I especially hate how they evangelize this philosophy and shout down any parent who suggests in good faith that there may exist a more optimal dinner for a growing elementary schooler than unlimited Oreos. Concerned parents of obese (in some cases very obese) children come to the group and are told that everything's fine, just don't restrict the food or villainize candy! The group is not entirely devoid of sanity, but overall it is very, very depressing.

 

[Falcon Sebben]

I haven't heard much about gluten lately, wasn't that an early-to-mid 2010s thing?

Could be but I swear I saw a bag of chips the other day in the supermarket that read, "gluten-free".

...............OK it seems the kid has literally never heard of fresh produce (apples). And the mom has never heard of a knife:

Yeah at that point it's obvious that this woman has no clue. Like literally no clue and it's no surprise her child is fat and makes terrible food choices.

I especially hate how they evangelize this philosophy and shout down any parent who suggests in good faith that there may exist a more optimal dinner for a growing elementary schooler than unlimited Oreos. The group is not entirely devoid of sanity, but overall it is extremely depressing.

If only there was a happy medium between being totally restrictive and totally open? You know, like normal people who grew up without eating disorders.

The problem with these people is they see it all as black or white. There's no shades of gray.

 

[Poopfart]

They genuinely believe that they are doing the right thing and that this practice will set their kids up for a lifetime of beneficial "intuitive eating." All foods must be treated as equally valuable, there is no difference between chocolate and broccoli. Children are not capable of understanding even rudimentary talk about nutrition, only "listening to their bodies" (they suggest in complete seriousness to allow a toddler who loves orange juice to drink it until she pukes, only then she will learn how much she can drink without puking). Food must be offered freely with no hint of restriction otherwise children will develop eating disorders. Morbid obesity in children is a completely neutral phenomenon with no linked health risks. Kids being unable to run and play and participate in sports because they are obese living in bigger bodies is also a morally neutral phenomenon without wider implications.

I especially hate how they evangelize this philosophy and shout down any parent who suggests in good faith that there may exist a more optimal dinner for a growing elementary schooler than unlimited Oreos. Concerned parents of obese (in some cases very obese) children come to the group and are told that everything's fine, just don't restrict the food or villainize candy! The group is not entirely devoid of sanity, but overall it is very, very depressing.

This would be a great way to view food in a perfect world….but we live in a world full of ultra processed foods that are literally designed to be addictive and high calorie. It’s fucking insane to treat ultra processed food that is literally designed by food scientists to be as addictive as possible.

 

[Poopfart]

Great advice about GLP1s from Jaimie Weisberg:

Spoiler: Text from the image in original Jaimie-talk

I have so many things to say I'm sorry your
experiencing this!! Number one asking the doctor to focus on the symptoms / behaviours not your body! It sucks but advocating for yourself is a common theme what would they give someone in a thinner body the same advice! It's honestly just lazy and violent. Finding doctors who are hard aligned but easier said than done.

 

[Lisa Frank Abomination]

GLP-1's are sooo yesterday.

Everyone's already dying to get on the new GLP-3's that are trialling now.

HAES is going to die the undignified death it deserves.