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Should be a wild four years.

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The Lawgiver said:
I understand why ICE has the reputation it does looking at the other bits of footage where agents act pretty much just as bad as these people int terms of irrationality but this guy seems chill and just trying to do his job
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Shut up, faggot. Lets see you do your job nice and clean when you have governors and mayors going on TV telling people you aren't law enforcement, even though you are literal fucking law enforcement.

Lets see how well you work when you have faggots jumping in front of your vehicles, stalking you, blowing whistles and bullhorns in your fucking ear. The fact ICE isn't just batoning the teeth out of these cocksucker's mouths shows they're far better trained than you behave they are.
 
StMaryPiper said:
I’d argue I’m sick of even these characters. I’ll say fuck it. I want damsels, I want women as emotionally weak characters.
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You just want to see some reality on your screens.

When a family member is telling me about a procedural show he's watching (he's got pretty excellent taste in film and fiction in general), and he's summarizing the premise, and he's telling me about how this character is remarkably smart and the best at what he does... I'm already checking out, because of course the character is THE BEST. Why would anyway make a show about average (or slightly above average) people? They all have to be superhuman in a very boring way.

What we are given in entertainment should be the interesting, unexpected outlier characters. But there are so many uncreative and derivative shows out there like that now that the "outlier" or unexpected story element is totally normal and expected. So: 98-pound women kicking the asses of all 300-pound men, in everything. It must have been exciting and novel the first time.
 
Fuck Bankers said:
Many of our elite aren't Jews. John D. Rockefeller donated heavily to the World Council of Churches for similar reason despite not being Jewish. Hegel, the founder of dialectical philosophy, was also not Jewish.
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The JQ people assured me that only Jews do things

George Lucas said:
I vow to protect Will Stancil from harm. I am his watchful guardian, his dark knight.
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Moral plague said:
Actually, I also want to know how Mossad is connected, I see a lot of people saying Israel, but not Mossad, or why.
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At this point there's no evidence for it outside of Ehud's aid who has connections to intelligence.

Found a video clip of Ehud Barak being called out in 2019 for being associated with Epstein on Israeli national news by Bezazel Smotrich, the current finance minister of Israel. No one paid attention at the time, probably because Smotrich is a manlet.

 
frozen_runner said:
You just want to see some reality on your screens.

When a family member is telling me about a procedural show he's watching (he's got pretty excellent taste in film and fiction in general), and he's summarizing the premise, and he's telling me about how this character is remarkably smart and the best at what he does... I'm already checking out, because of course the character is THE BEST. Why would anyway make a show about average (or slightly above average) people? They all have to be superhuman in a very boring way.

What we are given in entertainment should be the interesting, unexpected outlier characters. But there are so many uncreative and derivative shows out there like that now that the "outlier" or unexpected story element is totally normal and expected. So: 98-pound women kicking the asses of all 300-pound men, in everything. It must have been exciting and novel the first time.
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I just want more competent presentations of the Hero's Journey in my media. And then again. And then again. And again, again.
 
I had this posted on my LinkedIn. I don't get these people. This lawyer is spreading lies as far as I am concerned. Like coming to a country illegally *is* the crime. You can't say they haven't committed any crimes. They haven't committed *more* crimes (at least that people are aware of).

I am not American so don't get American law but I feel like this lawyer is leaving out key details. Like the government takes 25 years to issue a green card? The whole thing is sus.

Do employers benefit from these illegals? They are supposedly paying taxes. Are they just willing to take a shitty pay? I notice Ice is going after a lot of construction sites so there must be a lot of corruption in this industry. That's sad. Building a home or corporate building should be something an industry takes pride in, not just interested in money.

The only valid complaint I hear is that there is a lot of bureaucracy of making someone legal but I am not convinced. If that were true, why aren't people targeting Washington or their state (I don't know if it's done at the federal or state level)? ICE is just the middleman. They just execute decisions. They don't make them


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Platonic Cat Lover said:
The only valid complaint I hear is that there is a lot of bureaucracy of making someone legal but I am not convinced.
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Its not valid, its misdirection. No amount of slow bureaucracy permits you to commit a crime. If you do not have permanent residency or otherwise meet a valid condition to stay, you must pursue your green card from a country you're legally allowed residence in. If they wanted a pending green card to be grounds to live in the country, then they'd have legal resident status from it.

Yielding on this point only encourages them to make the process even slower and more obtuse, because its "pending case" not "granted". All that requires is having sent in the paperwork, even if you know full well they'll reject.
 
frozen_runner said:
I'm already checking out, because of course the character is THE BEST. Why would anyway make a show about average (or slightly above average) people? They all have to be superhuman in a very boring way.
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Because the writers don't know how to fucking write a character. A character being exceptional isn't a bad thing, I doubt most people would want to watch a detective drama featuring the world's most adequate detective. The issues with modern writing is they don't know how to balance the characters skills with flaws that opens up opportunities for growth and development or even know what the fuck a competent adult even acts like. A lot of shows feel the need to constantly insist the character is the best rather than actually demonstrate their skills in meaningful ways.
 
Platonic Cat Lover said:
I had this posted on my LinkedIn. I don't get these people. This lawyer is spreading lies as far as I am concerned. Like coming to a country illegally *is* the crime. You can't say they haven't committed any crimes. They haven't committed *more* crimes (at least that people are aware of).
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This is why we can't budge on this, because "He only entered illegally but didn't commit any REAL crimes!" quickly slips into "It was only a little DUI or burglary, it's not like he killed someone!", into "Just because he killed someone doesn't mean we can be barbaric and deport him, we never do that!"
 
Platonic Cat Lover said:
I had this posted on my LinkedIn. I don't get these people. This lawyer is spreading lies as far as I am concerned. Like coming to a country illegally *is* the crime. You can't say they haven't committed any crimes. They haven't committed *more* crimes (at least that people are aware of).

I am not American so don't get American law but I feel like this lawyer is leaving out key details. Like the government takes 25 years to issue a green card? The whole thing is sus.

Do employers benefit from these illegals? They are supposedly paying taxes. Are they just willing to take a shitty pay? I notice Ice is going after a lot of construction sites so there must be a lot of corruption in this industry. That's sad. Building a home or corporate building should be something an industry takes pride in, not just interested in money.

The only valid complaint I hear is that there is a lot of bureaucracy of making someone legal but I am not convinced. If that were true, why aren't people targeting Washington or their state (I don't know if it's done at the federal or state level)? ICE is just the middleman. They just execute decisions. They don't make them


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They're basically just sovereign citizens. They imagine the law should be a certain way given a certain legal theory they prefer and then just act like it already is even when they know it's not. They seem to think they can will it into existence.

"You can't deport me since I wasn't convicted of a felony."
"You're here illegally and that's all that matters."
"Being here illegally isn't a felony. Gotcha!"
"You're here illegally and that's all that matters."
"Show me the felony I committed, otherwise this is unconstitutional."
"You're here illegally and that's all that matters."
"This admiralty court has no jurisdiction over my name unless it's lowercase!!!"
etc. etc.

It's literally just make believe that is normally limited to random schizos, but is now the philosophy of the entire Democrat party.
 
Platonic Cat Lover said:
I had this posted on my LinkedIn. I don't get these people. This lawyer is spreading lies as far as I am concerned. Like coming to a country illegally *is* the crime. You can't say they haven't committed any crimes. They haven't committed *more* crimes (at least that people are aware of).

I am not American so don't get American law but I feel like this lawyer is leaving out key details. Like the government takes 25 years to issue a green card? The whole thing is sus.

Do employers benefit from these illegals? They are supposedly paying taxes. Are they just willing to take a shitty pay? I notice Ice is going after a lot of construction sites so there must be a lot of corruption in this industry. That's sad. Building a home or corporate building should be something an industry takes pride in, not just interested in money.

The only valid complaint I hear is that there is a lot of bureaucracy of making someone legal but I am not convinced. If that were true, why aren't people targeting Washington or their state (I don't know if it's done at the federal or state level)? ICE is just the middleman. They just execute decisions. They don't make them


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25 years and 3 kids later, "time to start getting my green card sorted I guess." I'm willing to bet that he only started the process recently to stall his deportation.
 
Sensitive Young Man said:
Is being named after a demon normal in Israel?
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Bezaliel is the Watcher in Enoch, Bezalel is the craftsman who built the Ark of the Covenant and directed the building of the Tabernacle.

Biblical names are popular there and I've complained about secular people picking the name Nimrod which roughly equates to naming your kid Hitler.


SpergioLeonne said:
To be fair, an example of a Hebrew demon name would be more like “Helmut Shekelharmer”
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Yosef the Demon

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