Opinion A Right-Wing Influencer Tried to Be a Tradwife. It Almost Broke Her. - Despite the presence of a few high-profile women in Trump’s administration, the right is increasingly trying to drive women out of public life.

  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/11/opinion/lauren-southern-tradwife-maga.html
https://archive.is/0X7N3
IMG_4934.webp
Lauren Southern, one of the most well-known right-wing influencers during Donald Trump’s first term, first went viral with a 2015 video titled “Why I Am Not a Feminist.” Then 19, beautiful and blond, Southern argued that women are advantaged in many areas of life, including child custody disputes and escaping abusive relationships. “Feminists are unintentionally creating a world of reverse sexism that I don’t want to be a part of,” she said.

But being an antifeminist, it turns out, is no shield against abusive male power. Southern’s new self-published memoir, “This Is Not Real Life,” is the story of conservative ideology colliding with reality. It’s made headlines for her claim that Andrew Tate, an unrepentant online misogynist accused of human trafficking, sexually assaulted her in Romania in 2018. (Tate has denied this.) The book is particularly revealing, though, for its depiction of Southern’s painful attempts to contort herself into an archetypical tradwife, an effort that left her almost suicidal. Her story should be a cautionary tale for the young women who aspire to the domestic life she once evangelized for.

Despite the presence of a few high-profile women in Trump’s administration, the right is increasingly trying to drive women out of public life. Some of this push comes from the unabashed patriarchs atop the Republican Party; last week, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth reposted a video in which leaders of his Christian denomination said that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. (“All of Christ for All of Life,” wrote Hegseth.)
But there are also female influencers who present housewifery as the ultimate in wellness, an escape from the soulless grind of the workplace. “Less Prozac, more protein,” the podcast host Alex Clark told thousands of listeners at a conservative women’s conference in June. “Less burnout, more babies, less feminism, more femininity.” (Clark is unmarried and has no children.)
IMG_4935.webp
This Instagram-inflected traditionalism is taking hold at a time when the workplace is becoming even less friendly to women. As The Washington Post reported on Monday, large numbers of mothers have left the work force this year. Many have been driven out by return-to-office mandates and a backlash against diversity policies that’s led to hostile working environments. But some, according to The Post, “say they are giving up jobs happily, in line with MAGA culture and the rise of the ‘traditional wife.’”

Southern had more reason than most to want to retreat into the cult of domesticity. As she recounts in her memoir, her antifeminist video helped propel her to international notoriety, and soon she was traveling the world as an avatar of irreverent online reaction. She gave out fliers saying, “Allah is a Gay God” in a Muslim neighborhood in England, popularized the idea that there’s a white genocide in South Africa and interviewed the reactionary philosopher Alexander Dugin on a trip to Moscow seemingly arranged by shadowy Russian interests.

It was during this phase of her life that she said she was assaulted by Tate, who was just beginning to build his global brand. Her politics made the trauma particularly hard to process. “It wouldn’t be very helpful to ‘the cause’ (or my career, for that matter) for me to become exactly what I criticized,” wrote Southern. “A victim.”

After her encounter with Tate, she wrote, her life “unraveled.” She yearned to escape her own infamy and the need to keep shoveling more outrageous content into the internet’s insatiable maw. So when she met a man who wanted to settle down, she jumped at the chance to give up her career and become a stay-at-home wife and mother. She posted photos of herself baking, and “selfies in the mirror showing how quickly I had bounced back to fitness and health after pregnancy.”

But in reality, she wrote, her life was “hell.” She’d moved with her husband from Canada, where she’d grown up, to his native Australia, where she lived in near-total isolation. Her husband treated her with growing contempt, which she responded to by trying to be an even better wife. “I threw myself tenfold into trying to be the perfect partner: cooking, cleaning, putting on dresses and high heels to welcome him home,” she wrote. But it didn’t work; she said her husband berated her, stayed out until late at night and constantly threatened to divorce her if she didn’t obey him.
IMG_4937.webp
Eventually, she wrote, when she defied him by traveling to Canada to visit her family, he told her the marriage was over. By then, she said, she’d turned over much of her savings to him. She and her son had to move in with her parents, and then into a small, cheap cabin in the woods. She was destitute, full of shame and intellectually adrift. As she told the conservative journalist Mary Harrington last year, when she first went public about her experience with trad life, “My brain was breaking between two worlds, because I couldn’t let go of the ideology.”

Southern’s book is not an attempt at liberal redemption. Though she claims she’s lost interest in politics, she doesn’t renounce the ugly nativist views that helped her build her audience. She doesn’t apologize for, say, trying to block a boat that rescued drowning migrants in the Mediterranean. But while she’s not a particularly sympathetic figure, that might make her criticism of trad culture more credible, because it’s hard to see a professional motive in a book that’s likely to annoy every political faction.

Every few decades, it seems, America is fated to endure a new spasm of pseudotraditionalism, with women encouraged to seek shelter from a brutal world in homemaking. The lionization of the housewife in the 1950s came after women were pushed out of their World War II-era jobs. During the 1980s, as Susan Faludi wrote in her classic “Backlash,” women were bombarded with media messages telling them true freedom lay in marriage and motherhood. In 2003, The New York Times Magazine heralded “The Opt-Out Revolution,” part of a wave of media about elite women stepping back from hard-charging careers.
IMG_4938.webp
I’m sure some women are happy renouncing their ambitions to care for husbands and children. But often, women who give in to gender retrenchment come to regret it. A decade after “The Opt-Out Revolution,” a Times Magazine headlineread, “The Opt-Out Generation Wants Back In.”
In her 2007 book “The Feminine Mistake,” Leslie Bennetts wrote, “I couldn’t possibly count the number of women I’ve interviewed who thought they could depend on a husband to support them but who ultimately found themselves alone and unprepared to take care of themselves — and their children.” It seems particularly dangerous to tie one’s fate to a man who is part of an internet subculture obsessed with female submission.
Unfortunately, the women who most need to hear this message probably won’t listen to middle-aged feminists. They’ll have to wait for it to play out in their own lives, or in the curated lives on their screens.


Michelle Goldberg has been an Opinion columnist since 2017. She is the author of several books about politics, religion and women’s rights and was part of a team that won a Pulitzer Prize for public service in 2018 for reporting on workplace sexual harassment.
 
Last edited:
Also, "trad" never meant stupid, or being some fuckslave who cooks and cleans. Our tradition is not the Taliban.
One of the craziest lies ever told to people is that American women were somehow pathetic doormats and victims of men before feminism was invented.
4jt9ippn31pd1.webp
American women built this country too. Weak people could never have created a country as great as the United States. :hulk:
 
Crazy how often trad relationships turn out to be abusive. I also really enjoy watching all the incels and tradfags going into damage control whenever stuff like this gets published, keep it up, guys! :semperfidelis:
 
Her boyfriend was abusive. He’d have done that to her whether she was stay at home, or a career woman or anything in between. She got tangled up with Tate, who looks like the bastard offspring of a thumb and a chinless monkey.
I’ve known women like this. They are lost, usually something bad has happened to them in their childhood and they keep replaying it by going for the very worst kind of men who treat them terribly. I suspect it’s a pattern that’s very hard to break and I have sympathy for her for that.
But really; ‘I’ve had bad luck with men so nobody gets to be a stay at home mum’ is not the message that should be twisted into.
Raising kids isn’t as physically hard as being a roughneck, no, but if it was that much more fulfilling men would be doing it in droves.
It's partly that, but I think one major thing that is way underestimated is birth control. It's hormone therapy, it effects not only the reproductive organs but the brain. It alters the mating choice of women from men who are good providers and would make good fathers to men that are dangerous and wild, that make her "excited" primarily because they make them afraid, or sometimes they pick pussy boys that aren't threatening at all, because they think that the previous guy was too wild for them and now they go to the opposite extreme, I can't bother to search for it now, but I'm pretty sure if you search you'll find studies that confirmed exactly this. Birth control is also responsible for divorces and spousal abuse, as the woman chose a man while on birth control, then stopped taking birth control which dramatically altered their partner preference, they no longer feel attracted to the man and they leave him. The invention of hormonal birth control and the decline of normal stable partnerships coincide pretty well. And doctors prescribe hormonal drugs to young girls as they first start menstruating, if they get cramps or menstrual pains, because it makes them go away. The side effect is their brain chemistry and thoughts are forever altered as they don't develop normally due to being bombarded with hormones that aren't supposed to be there. It's a chemical-induced disease that alters your body permanently, like trannies that take hormones to change sex, hormonal BC alters the brain permanently. It's horrible that this is allowed and it should be banned for any woman under 30 to take hormonal birth control. The same as genital mutilation, not only tranny surgeries, but female and male genital mutilation (circumcision) should be banned. It's barbaric and our society is basically practicing a different form of child sacrifice. It's not post-birth murder sacrifice, but pre-birth murder sacrifice. The fucked up state of society is a direct consequence of the child mutilation and sacrifice it practices.
 
One of the craziest lies ever told to people is that American women were somehow pathetic doormats and victims of men before feminism was invented.
View attachment 7771703
American women built this country too. Weak people could never have created a country as great as the United States. :hulk:
How to be "trad":

Read the Little House books and draw on the strength of the main female characters, who homesteaded and settled the country

Get into homesteading, learn how to live off whatever little piece of land you have

Care for your children and love them

Love your husband, get friends, treasure your family

How not to be trad:

Post pictures of yourself cosplaying as Zero Suit Samus to the Internet
Ride the cock carousel
Go for literal international sex criminals like Tate
Let Alex Jones fuck you in the ass

zerosuitsouthern.webp

See this? Not trad

Anyone who would be on "The Secret Lives Of Mormon Wives" is not "trad" either
 

A Right-Wing Influencer Tried to Be a Tradwife. It Almost Broke Her.​

You have to try first to say that you “tried.” Lauren Southern was a secret hoe from the outset and never really stopped. Her curated image she’s selling about her life is fiction and I deeply hate all of the retarded /pol/ simps that enabled her since she started grift in the Gamergate days.
 

Attachments

Last edited:
Do right-wing women think that the only playable character within their ideology is "trad wife"

Have none of them heard of Ann Colter? You can be a conservative woman without getting married and having kids. The worst thing that'll happen to you is that someone might say, "hey you're gonna regret this later" and all you have to do is say, "maybe."

I don’t think they do. I know lots of conservative women and they’ve done all sorts of things, it runs the gamut from tradwife to career woman.

I personally think that many women felt pressured by society to conform to the “working mom/woman” life. Girl bawsss, you can have it all propaganda. I feel like a lot of that started with Gen X and many of them fell for it and are bitter about how it turned out. Many are the lonely single cat ladies, same with Millennials. So this whole “tradwife” thing is partly backlash against that. It’s been rooted in society for so long, that we are seeing how it’s affected society, and many think it’s negative.

Also I think a lot of younger women don’t want to end up like the older women they know. How many of them are products of broken homes, have half and step siblings, parents running through partners/spouses and creating an unstable life? A lot of men probably don’t want that for their children either. Not assigning blame to men or women (it’s the fault of society, which is both sexes), just that noticing is a thing now and many don’t want to live a life of such rootlessness and lack of commitment. Maybe they think trad values will help prevent that. Maybe it will. It seemed to work ok for our ancestors.

I’ll say I’ve been conservative my whole life and got the relentless drumbeat of “be a career woman, strong, independent, girl bawss”. But it’s just not me, not my personality, never was. Being a tradwife was never even considered an option, yet I guess that’s what I am. That never seemed to be considered by anyone other than super religious fundies and I knew lots of Mormons and even they didn’t push the whole tradwife thing on their families. So idk.
 
Have none of them heard of Ann Colter? You can be a conservative woman without getting married and having kids. The worst thing that'll happen to you is that someone might say, "hey you're gonna regret this later" and all you have to do is say, "maybe."
Ann Colter also got fucked by Bill Maher and I believe has also burned the coal. She's more contrarian than right-wing. Also, remember the time Destiny, Lauren, and Brittany Venti attempted to fuck over Grandpa Rollo and then it turned out that Rollo was basically right the whole time? Good times. Having been around parts of the online Alt-Right, virtually every single e-girl from the old days was nothing more than clout chasing e-thot. Even RedFemHitler/Holly Himmler who is shacking up with has-been gayest straight man on the planet, Little Dicky Spencer.

Also, Lauren's sister was hotter.
 
I personally think that many women felt pressured by society to conform to the “working mom/woman” life. Girl bawsss, you can have it all propaganda. I feel like a lot of that started with Gen X and many of them fell for it and are bitter about how it turned out. Many are the lonely single cat ladies, same with Millennials. So this whole “tradwife” thing is partly backlash against that. It’s been rooted in society for so long, that we are seeing how it’s affected society, and many think it’s negative.

I agree with this. Can't speak for other generations, but the pressure on young women in the 80s-90s to be a career woman and to not "ruin your life" by getting married before 35 was INTENSE.
(I had my first child at 28, married of course, and my friends treated me like I was some kind of child bride married to Jerry Lee Lewis.)
And young men also internalized that message in a weird way, seemingly deciding as a generation that they were too special to get "tied down" until they'd gotten their dicks wettened by every barfly they could find in their 20s or 30s. I remember knowing exactly ONE guy at my (admittedly snooty) university who had any interest at all in having a traditional family life before he'd be old enough to need Viagra, and he was quite clearly trying to pray the gay away.
 
The last paragraph is the best. Southern was a 19 year old bimbo shooting her mouth off about " straw woman feminism" and getting plenty of validation . Now she has some experience of life and has found out things aren't as she was told. This is a rinse and repeat cycle. Young women "feminists" don't know most women must support themselves and others. Noise about "sexual empowerment", belly button piercing, and convoluted consent protocols is just cheap talk.
 
Back
Top Bottom