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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Kiwibros if nothing happens in Epping in the next few days Im losing all hope. What the fuck is the final straw?
I've said it before but the real winning is to simply keep the pressure up. Police aren't going to be leaving Epping for the next three years and nobody is going to start shit when there's police officers standing outside.

Keeping the pressure up and then asking questions why protecting Epping has cost X money while crime has been rising will do more to move the overton window right than burning a hotel would.
 
It's easy to say from the outside but I feel like those guys should refuse to leave. They're all ex-military. I don't think the government would relish either the optics or the practicalities of pitting the police against veterans.
They should but I feel like they don't because they don't feel anyone would have their backs.
Kiwibros if nothing happens in Epping in the next few days Im losing all hope. What the fuck is the final straw?
Good news is that the straw exists. Bad news is that I think it will take a lot more, Brits' love for tolerance and bureaucracy is no joke.
 
I think burning the hotel would help a lot actually
That's because you're either a glowy or someone who doesn't grasp secondary effects. Yes the impact would look good and be seen as a win from the first glance, but it'd be all the government needs to VIOLENTLY crack down on anyone protesting near a hotel, including terrorism charges etc.
 
promising to fix it with AI,
Ai made the problem worse, didn't it?

Here's an easy way to fix it. Lockdown every prison, tonight. Call in all staff and do a full headcount of everyone that should be there. Anyone who isn't there, their pictures should be plastered all over whichever 24/7 news channel BBC owns, or live stream one on youtube, tiktok or where ever, with a £250 reward for information leading to the capture of those released and a £500 reward to every prisoner who voluntarily hands himself in.

No prisoners are to be released until everyone is accounted for.

Build a new process that says a release has to be signed off by two separate members of staff, cross referenced with the computer and physical paper work and all staff who make a mistake are docked two weeks' wages.

Fixed.
 
No prisoners are to be released until everyone is accounted for.
While that's a good idea in theory that'd basically ensure that nobody can enter prison for the next 30 years or so until you can conclusively prove that Ashmur Sdfhasifh has probably died.

I don't exactly know what the deal is with prisons but it would not surprise me in the slightest if modifications to crimes (as in, an amendment to a law in 2005 means that the person sentenced to the previous version of the crime in 2004 is marked differently) have resulted in people slipping by. That and concurrent sentences as prison officers will likely have gone "ok he's served 40% of his crime for X" and not realised that the Y sentence is still active.

I know people love to blame AI but it's far more likely some Ethiopian who lives in a tent ouside the prison was asked to give a basic calculation and fucked it up far more than anyone expected.
 
Team Starmer is now firmly in the bunker. Multiple journalists were briefed this evening by the PM's office that he will fight any leadership challenge that arises as a result of the Budget or next year's local elections (or any of the other myriad bear traps that he will inevitably fall into between now and then). Streeting was called out by name, and his office has now had to publicly deny that he is plotting to overthrow Starmer.

This is the Times' writing-up of the briefing; https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politic...inister-leadership-challenge-labour-fvztrvcz6 | https://archive.st/archive/2025/11/...er-leadership-challenge-labour-fvztrvcz6.html
 
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It's over, but quite a lot of us were right on this. Growing scandals/crime with Reeves and a cabinet of fucking losers. Streeting is too dumb to see that he is being used as a vehicle because any new cabinet will need none of the former cabinet to survive; they're all unpopular. You can tell Macaron is the product of her cousins fucking, because you'd have to be retarded to think the political machine or international stage is going to accept a Muslim woman as PM. Fuck being attached to that cabinet alone is suicide.

I think the higher-ups in the party thought they could just do a Biden with Starmer, but he is too fucking unlikeable. The media don't even like showing him anymore. It's going to go the way of Boris, like I expected. After the budget, there will be cabinet resignations, he will be unable to form a cabinet, and forced out.

Farage is correct in his judgment of a no later than 2027 election. The issue is that the Labour government has no mandate whatsoever. Their previous government got in on the lowest voter turnout in history, and has had consecutive public polling akin to the Conservatives ever since.
 
I know people love to blame AI
This isn't a blame on AI. The government are rehauling the justice system, starting with prisons, using AI.
While that's a good idea in theory that'd basically ensure that nobody can enter prison for the next 30 years
Guess they'll have to be shipped to colonies then.

Re the starmer palava, @teriyakiburns might get his GE before May. Where's that Clive Warren Davies poster?
 
It's over, but quite a lot of us were right on this. Growing scandals/crime with Reeves and a cabinet of fucking losers. Streeting is too dumb to see that he is being used as a vehicle because any new cabinet will need none of the former cabinet to survive; they're all unpopular. You can tell Macaron is the product of her cousins fucking, because you'd have to be retarded to think the political machine or international stage is going to accept a Muslim woman as PM. Fuck being attached to that cabinet alone is suicide.

I think the higher-ups in the party thought they could just do a Biden with Starmer, but he is too fucking unlikeable. The media don't even like showing him anymore. It's going to go the way of Boris, like I expected. After the budget, there will be cabinet resignations, he will be unable to form a cabinet, and forced out.

Farage is correct in his judgment of a no later than 2027 election. The issue is that the Labour government has no mandate whatsoever. Their previous government got in on the lowest voter turnout in history, and has had consecutive public polling akin to the Conservatives ever since.
Well said, we're now accelerating towards the end.

Starmer's not only lost the support of his party, the people and the man who should be his greatest ally (love him or loathe him, Donald Trump should be Starmer's best pal on the international stage) but now even Four Star Generals are calling him out.

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-leadership-challenge-wes-streeting

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This is key - Labour MP's are now actively moving against Starmer.

Yet, Starmer has pompously said 'I will be PM for 10 years.'

Before I get the rainbows, I should point out the following:

* Starmer does not want to be told who his Deputy PM etc. will be as he doesn't believe that the party should be allowed to vote (Unions etc.) and that only he should be allowed a say,

* Starmer can block Burnham from having a seat (none currently available anyway) and can always use the threat of 'I'll go to the Palace' to keep his MP's in line - or until enough of them have enough.

* There is still the chance that this year's Budget could get voted down and this would lead to a VONC.

* If Starmer really felt scared/threatened then he could do 'a Boris' and ask for Parliament to be prorogued in December. This would be an extremely dicey decision, but he can ask for a prorogation of Parliament in order to sort out the problems (or the rebels) in Labour. He'd have to have a good reason to ask for one, but he could use the 'excuse' that he wishes to 'lay out a new legislative agenda' and use the migrant crisis, Southport enquiry etc. as an unofficial 'reason'. It's 'buyable' by the idiot classes and, during the intervening period, he can tell MP's to either back him or get out of the party.

Also with this, Johnson has inadvertently done Starmer a favour: In December 2020 the Johnson Government published the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 (Repeal) Bill which would stop courts from ruling on the power to dissolve Parliament. This was formally introduced as the "Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Bill" in 2021 and passed as the Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022. Therefore there would be no 'Gina Miller' type person allowed to call into question the legitimacy of the prorogation should it happen.
 
I forgot how faggoty leadership contests are. Everyone trying to position themselves in the best place to stab the incumbant leader in the back while hiding their knives and pretending they are completely innocent when called out. If Starmer had any balls he'd completely fucking destroy Streeting and suspend him from the party as a lesson to everyone else, but that implies that Starmer is capable of showing a backbone.
 
I forgot how faggoty leadership contests are. Everyone trying to position themselves in the best place to stab the incumbant leader in the back while hiding their knives and pretending they are completely innocent when called out. If Starmer had any balls he'd completely fucking destroy Streeting and suspend him from the party as a lesson to everyone else, but that implies that Starmer is capable of showing a backbone.
That would be a brave move, but also potentially a foolish one in that if Streeting and any rebels are suspended then they could stand as Independents and resign the Labour whip entirely.

Starmer wants to completely control the Labour Party but is being constantly stymied by his fellow idiots - Lammy, for instance, has been a major hindrance in the past few weeks and he should have been removed from his position, possibly Cooper as well as both are as useful as a chocolate kettle in Hell.

Either just before or just after the Budget, I expect Starmer to issue a 'back me or get out' clarion call to the party. It will be interesting how many still back him once his overall rating hits single figures.
 
That would be a brave move, but also potentially a foolish one in that if Streeting and any rebels are suspended then they could stand as Independents and resign the Labour whip entirely.
I mean at this point surely Starmer knows he's got nothing to lose. If an election is called today then Labour are getting destroyed so Streeting knows that he's getting destroyed whether he stands as independant OR Labour.

I also doubt any independent would risk their chances until they see how Streeting does as an independent. If he gets massacred and Greens/Reform thrash him then he's marooned politically as there's no way back into politics as an MP.

Furiously burning Streeting so he's completely destroyed would see the entire Labour backbench scared stiff into doing whatever the fuck Starmer wants to do.
 
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