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Should be a wild four years.

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If tariffs are "bad economic policy" why has Canada tariffed American goods for decades, through both Labor and Conservative parties? I feel like old Doug doesn't want to answer that question

Hayley Williams of Paramore would like you to know President Trump is a sexual predator
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That sounds defamatory, better hope Trump and his lawyers see you as the insignificant ant you are Hayley

I've been hearing rumors she might retire.

She was supposed to retire earlier I believe but AOC knocked off the guy in the House that was supposed to be her successor. One of the moves from the DSA and the Justice Democrats that wound up getting them a ton of power over the whole Dem party.
 
FYI DU has gotten Cloudflare all of the sudden.

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Big.. Doggs, and now got these bastards... I know Billy West and other major libs were onto this, and probably LFJ and others.
 
You know, thinking about the before times is kind of depressing. We won the Cold War. The Wall fell, communism was dead. People were so well to do, their kids had to dress up in dirty clothes, sing sad grunge music, and feel sorry for themselves to be rebels. Politics were so banal that the news was filled with all kinds of frivolous sound bytes. The scandals of the past - Bill Clinton might have inhaled marijuana. Clinton was asked if he wore boxers or briefs. Vice President Dan Quayle spelled potato with an "e". Anybody remember the scandal of the "Dean scream"? If only these were the problems of now.
 
You know, thinking about the before times is kind of depressing. We won the Cold War. The Wall fell, communism was dead. People were so well to do, their kids had to dress up in dirty clothes, sing sad grunge music, and feel sorry for themselves to be rebels. Politics were so banal that the news was filled with all kinds of frivolous sound bytes. The scandals of the past - Bill Clinton might have inhaled marijuana. Clinton was asked if he wore boxers or briefs. Vice President Dan Quayle spelled potato with an "e". Anybody remember the scandal of the "Dean scream"? If only these were the problems of now.
Remember when nuclear war was a nonstop threat? The "Dean scream" (9/11 wasn't that long after either) was about the same as all this nonsense since. Get over it, only shitlibs are that worked up.

We had 9/11, now we got Trump remodeling an old white house part after he stopped most wars.

The left is going to bitch no matter what. Trump and Vance are better leaders than we had since Reagan, strong.
 
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Really? 5000 anti-air missiles. Amazing.

... What's their plan for day 2?
Maybe the USA shouldn’t be bombing ordinary little boats in foreign waters? If they are carrying drugs, it’s not their business until it reaches the USA.

All Trump has done is start yet another war while not reducing the number of people on drugs.

Useless bastard. I hope he dies before he does more damage.
What a retarded fucking take, even for obvious bait.

Not only should he be bombing them in international waters, he should be bombing them in foreign waters AND on foreign lands, too. I want the entire confederacy of shithole countries to get the message that if you try and run drugs to the US, you're going to die screaming on fire and not even know it happened, and your shitty narco-terrorist government won't be able to protect you.

Him killing drug runners is one of the best things he's done. A serious "wait that was always an option?" moment. Kill MORE of them, please. Use satellites to find the warehouses the boats are being filled from and drone strike them too.
 
Remember when nuclear war was a nonstop threat? The "Dean scream" (9/11 wasn't that long after either) was about the same as all this nonsense since. Get over it, only shitlibs are that worked up.

We had 9/11, now we got Trump remodeling an old white house part after he stopped most wars.

The left is going to bitch no matter what. Trump and Vance are better leaders than we had since Reagan, strong.
Sure, there's always been problems. The time between the Wall falling and 9/11 was pretty chill, though. Oh, well. Yeah, Trump is for sure better than any of his predecessors in living memory.
 
You know, thinking about the before times is kind of depressing. We won the Cold War. The Wall fell, communism was dead. People were so well to do, their kids had to dress up in dirty clothes, sing sad grunge music, and feel sorry for themselves to be rebels. Politics were so banal that the news was filled with all kinds of frivolous sound bites. The scandals of the past - Bill Clinton might have inhaled marijuana. Clinton was asked if he wore boxers or briefs. Vice President Dan Quayle spelled potato with an "e". Anybody remember the scandal of the "Dean scream"? If only these were the problems of now.
I legit feel liberals crying about a FUCKING BALLROOM is heartening back to the old days of politics being a Who Gives A Shit topic.

If Obama or Biden had started construction on a ballroom I wouldn’t have cared. I think maybe Republicans would have made dumb jokes about Hunter Biden having coke parties in there. That would have been it.
 
Sure, there's always been problems. The time between the Wall falling and 9/11 was pretty chill, though. Oh, well. Yeah, Trump is for sure better than any of his predecessors in living memory.
Those times weren't chill, we had Waco and OKC bombings, Columbine. It was a bit nonstop disasters really.

ETA Ruby Ridge, and tons of wars in Serbia and so on. I guess for some those we the 'good ol days' for the leftists, but not really.

Now, they bitch about WH remodeling. oh and desert storm and all that.

Millennials and Zoomers have these rose glasses on the 90s. Weird. Job-wise yes, program 'hello world' in basic and could get a job. But for most part it was pretty nonstop BS like lately.

ETA: and games were amazing then for lan parties, but overall, still not great. Please argue with me over how 90s were better than Trump 2 times.
 
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politics being a Who Gives A Shit topic.
I think we're very very quickly returning to this and I couldn't be happier. Everybody is just completely burnt out.
Those times weren't chill
It really is just about what age you were. I was born in the early 90s so my golden years were the 2000s, i have incredibly fond and safe memories of that era. Old timers look at me like a retard when i say that, Objectively it was full of all sorts of crap.
 
THANK YOU, took the words out of my mouth

Im the first mfer to show up to critizie modern women but that girl was just fully focused on her own table and plate. if the other stinky cunt dident turn around and stick her nose in others business she would never have had her face filmed but the 19 IQ libs claimed big happy tits "filmed her without permission"
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Moments like this are why I realize there is so much of a gender divide, Women arent all ugly and sad, unhappy women bully and berate the hot and unique ones to the point they just shy away from the public eye so all you see in social media and traditional media is the worst of the worst.

Straight up this poor girl was DANCING IN HER SEAT OVER PANCAKES and people CELEBRATED her ban WHAT THE FUCK? IDk maybe im just spering out over nothing but shit like that feels emblematic of so much.
Those aren't all women. A lot of those are captain save a hoe pining for the whimpering flat because they are so hopeless they wouldn't try for the fit girl.
 
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Today Echoen, my favourite tranny furry with terminal TDS, has posted a massive fucking wall of text where he sounds totally rational and understandeable.

I had posted his tantrums already in the past but below i'll write a explaination of who the fuck this troon is, how hard he failed at life and why he can't kill himself early enough.

If our glorious leader Josh is the final boss of transphobia, Echoen is the final boss of the furry fandom you need to kill for the secret ending, his brain marred by every single fetish immaginable, this retard has been on furaffinity for as long as the site has been alive, writing horrible fanfictions about Gadget Hackwrench and Judy Hoops becoming phallic Cronemberg abominations. Having commissioned comics in the dozens and drawings in the hundreds for nearly or perhaps even over two decades, I don't need to explain how absolute his devotion to the fandom.
He worked to fund multiple charity events, supported the biggest retard around (as long as they were furries) and, allegedly, was even contacted by Disney to give them sggestions for at least one of their movies.
Unfortunately (for us all), this great mind, this contemporary Oscar Wilde has been struck with a horrible and incurable disease know for causing even more mental degradation than he's already experiencing: the dreaded Trump Derangement Syndrome, ever since then, he has been occasionally schizoposting about the evil orange man and his FASCIST regime, the kind of manifestos that, in an ideal world, would have already warranted him canadian healthcare at worst and heavy antipsychotic for life at best.

The last wall of cringe from this guy that I posted on the farms was about the tragic passing of Charlie Kirk, and it contained an unironic comparison of current day political events to fucking Star Wars.

Has this adult (in age alone and absolutely nothing else) realized his mistake and managed to write something even more fucking embarassing? Only one way to find out...

Unalienable: Unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor

Rights: Principles of freedom or entitlement recognized by law, social convention, or ethics.

If politicians can take away our rights, they are not unalienable and they are not rights. We do not have unalienable rights. We have conditional privileges according to the whims of whoever currently holds the reins. If we want actual rights, we must build a system in which NO ONE has the power to take them away to begin with or, by inaction (such as a subservient Congress and ineffectual Court), enable those rights to be dismantled.

But after reading the Constitution again, it hit us, square in the face. The Constitution itself says it is our DUTY to throw off such Government that has been reduced to Despotism. The Constitution itself enshrines our rights as unalienable, and it is not for the Despots or their slavish minions to take them away. It is our right and duty to throw the despots away.

THE CONSTITUTION STATES:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.




Now, the Constitution addresses the King of Britain as a tyrant and lists Facts. Let's see how these apply to Tyrant Trump.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
--Assess all the laws and bills passed by Congress that Trump signed, and evaluate them against Public Good. He sure Assented to Laws (which means pass laws), but certainly NOT for the public good. Corruption and public harm abound. FAILED.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
--On it's face Trump has FAILED this one too. We're right in the middle of a fucking 'suspended in their operation' right now, and neglect is rampant among his slavish despot minions.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
--Does this one count if Congress isn't even GIVING him Laws that meet this requirement? Yes, absofuckinglutely, because it is under his direction and leadership, and his Republican Party, that are only in accomodation for very small districts of people (i.e; billionaire donors or ultrawealthy religious organizations). FAILED.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
--FAILED because he only ever calls together Republican legislatures and tells them to not even work with anyone else, Democrat or Independent. And the 'fatiguing them into compliance' sure fucking looks like what he's doing to EVERYONE.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
-Trump now has the record of the most days of a federal shut-down of any US president in history, but it's the second part that's of most note. Regardless of dissolving the ability of representatives to do their jobs, "his invasions on the rights of the people" has been constant, multifaceted, and the only thing of any vigor he has ever done. FAILED.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
--We blame Mike Johnson, but he takes his orders from Trump. Congress is closed and Adelita Grijalva has been blocked from taking her seat in Congress. And again the second part is of most note; we sure have become in MUCH greater danger of invasion from without (foreign billionaires) and these convulsions within are due to his agencies, goons, sycophants, and propogandists. FAILED.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
--Travel bans, the overzealous enforcement of CIVIL offenses as if they were CRIMINAL offenses by ICE, we actually don't need to explain much further because "refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither" is LITERALLY what he and Republicans are doing. FAILED FUCKING FAILED.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
--Not JUST by refusing to Assent to Laws (and the scheme of not getting laws passed to him in the first place), but there's never been any figure in history that has so obstructed the Administration of Justice. FAILED.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
--His attacks on the judiciary have been abundant and plain. FAILED.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
--DESTROYING PUBLIC LANDS (White House), swarms of ICE officers and arming them with military weaponry and MISSILES, and hollowing out of every agency. "Eat out their substance" do you remember that DOGE was originally the "Executive Office of the President"? FAILED

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
--both ICE and the National Guard have been transformed into paramilitaries to be used against us. FAILED

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
--This one is different. He has TRIED, and yet our Military has not gone along with it. Hence turning to paramilitaries. So... does he get a pass for this even though he tried and would if he figured out how?

Nope. Failing at trying to do this does not get you a pass. FAILED.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
--What foreign jurisdiction? Depends on the context! For international affairs, we're subjected to Russian jurisdiction - unless it's Israel's jurisdiction. For business affairs, we're subjected to Saudi jurisdiction - unless it's Argentinia or China. For domestic social affairs, we're subjected to corporate jurisdiction - unless it's Christian Religious jurisdiction.

FAILEDx3

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
--ICE and National Guard. FAILED.

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
--This one may be the first PASS, only because it's so narrow and specific. Protecting them? FAILED. By Mock Trial? Not even getting to trial. Murders? Not that specific crime...but does genocide count?

Fuck it. FAILED. Fight me on this one.

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
--Tariffs. FAILED.

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
--TARIFFS. FAILED.

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
--ICE deportations without due process, even arresting American citizens, and numerous human trafficking violations. FAILED.

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
--Human trafficking of supposed 'illegal immigrants' and just disappearing them into other countries like El Salvador and Jordan with no due process. Not even tried, just skipping right to detention. FAILED.

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
--Not even in a neighboring country, but in our own country itself! Corruption of the courts, of the political system entire. Our government is currently Arbitrary on Trump's whims, and he is introducing absolute rule. We are the Colonies, Trump is the King. FUCK THE KING. FAILED.

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
--Do you think he needs to LITERALLY do this through the LEGAL system? Nope! He's just fucking doing it without bothering to write it down. Our form of government has been altered. Our laws are not being applied fairly or equitably and he is above them. And so many of us cling to these 'charters' as if a fucking piece of paper is going to stop the red-faced white supremacist from following his orders to put that in the shredder too, along with everyone clinging to it.

FAILED.

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
--What are in now if not in a suspended legislature? What has he declared if not himself the smartest and most bestest in all things? FAILED.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
--LITERALLY THIS, LITERALLY THIS, LITERALLY THIS. Only in dumber words. FAILED.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
--Tariffs and demanding bribes from sea shipping companies. Environmental devastation and active disregard for Climate Change. WANTING our towns to be burnt so they can FILM it and use it for propaganda.

And the lives of TENS OF MILLIONS of people have already been destroyed. The destruction spreads outwards, daily, thousands at a time. Healthcare. Housing. Food insecurity. Criminalization. Just being Black or Hispanic and any ICE officer glimpsing at you. Life destroyed. FAILED.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
--Do they gotta be foreign? Domestic Mercenaries (ICE) are doing ALL OF THIS. FAILED.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
--Not on the seas specifically, but here on land at home. FAILED.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
--Domestic insurrections? January 6th was just the most notable one.

but also fuck the phrasing here for this horrifically racist depiction of the Indigenous People / Native Americans

So, FAILED on insurrections, and we're not granting a pass on the second part either, because instead of Native People, the merciless White Supremacist / Christian Nationalist / Nazi Fascist, who's known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

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WHAT DOES THE CONSTITUTION SAY TO DO? WHAT IS OUR RIGHT? WHAT IS OUR DUTY?

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury.

A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

We, therefore, the [CITIZENS] appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these [STATES], solemnly publish and declare, That these United [STATES] are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the [REPUBLICAN KING], and that all political connection between them and the State of [AMERICA, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

In short:

REVOLT. STRIKE. REBEL.

BUILD ALLIANCES AGAINST TRUMP AND REPUBLICAN FASCISTS.

Spread the fucking word
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Those aren't all women. A lot of those are captain save a who pining for the whimpering flat because they are so hopeless they wouldn't try for the fit girl.
Captain save a WHO???
I legit feel liberals crying about a FUCKING BALLROOM is heartening back to the old days of politics being a Who Gives A Shit topic.
That's my secret, cap. I never gave a shit about politics.
 
You know, thinking about the before times is kind of depressing. We won the Cold War. The Wall fell, communism was dead. People were so well to do, their kids had to dress up in dirty clothes, sing sad grunge music, and feel sorry for themselves to be rebels. Politics were so banal that the news was filled with all kinds of frivolous sound bytes. The scandals of the past - Bill Clinton might have inhaled marijuana. Clinton was asked if he wore boxers or briefs. Vice President Dan Quayle spelled potato with an "e". Anybody remember the scandal of the "Dean scream"? If only these were the problems of now.
You’re looking at the past with rose tinted glasses and ignoring a lot of the major issues of the day. AIDS, terrorist attacks including the first attack on the World Trade Center, rise in black crime, crack, Rodney king riots, the Y2K scare, the war in transfats, the Enron debacle, the countries in Europe constantly changing to the point that no one knew what country was called what, fears of a ice age caused by man-made climate change, etc etc.
There were always major news stories and always things for the adults to worry about. When you’re young you just don’t pay attention to that stuff. I remember what 9/11 was like the day it happened, but at the same time I was only a kid and didn’t really have the capacity to have an opinion on it. I didn’t really think about terrorism or care about it until 2006 or so and by that point 9/11 jokes were already common on tv so a lot of the ste had been taken out of it,

The point in trying to make is that there has always and will always be horrible things happening in the world and the news makes money off of presenting those things. Likewise, the fun and light hearted events still exist. Focus on what you want but lighten up. Nothing is so bad that you need to feel sad or doom
 
You know, thinking about the before times is kind of depressing. We won the Cold War. The Wall fell, communism was dead. People were so well to do, their kids had to dress up in dirty clothes, sing sad grunge music, and feel sorry for themselves to be rebels. Politics were so banal that the news was filled with all kinds of frivolous sound bytes. The scandals of the past - Bill Clinton might have inhaled marijuana. Clinton was asked if he wore boxers or briefs. Vice President Dan Quayle spelled potato with an "e". Anybody remember the scandal of the "Dean scream"? If only these were the problems of now.
I think the actual main difference is that the Internet broke the existing mechanisms for controlling narratives, so now you hear about a lot of the things they wish you wouldn't, whereas back in those days it was really easy to memoryhole almost anything
 
I can explain this actually, for some reason a decade or so ago the school system switched from Phonics (teaching children how to sound out words) to just having them memorize whole words to pass tests, yes its as bad as it sounds.

here is a video of a much smarter lady than me explaining it and how her forcing Mississippi to go back to Phonics took them from worst in the nation in literacy to 6th best

HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERY AMERICAN TO WATCH THIS

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Y9fcJaPKJQ
Just so I understand it correctly. Phonics refers to young children learning the letters and words by sounding it out right? It doesn't mean writing a word like it sounds? Because that's how they fucked up the German system in recent years. By allowing children to write the words like they hear them and not having to learn them at first. (Allows children younger than usual to actually write but they don't write correctly.)
 
Ok one more post. Libertarians are dying because economically they wanted Tariffs pay for government. Trump took that away.

The only other thing they care a DAMN about is weed. Just THC. They've mostly won that through the blue state force. Their only next move will be to legalize more drugs, that's all they care about. Drugs and getting high. They'll go like the druggie from weed to pills to 8balls, natural selection. They got beat out by both sides on their only issues.

Really all they cared about was THC being used by everyone like Brave new world soma, and they pretty much have that with gummies and cbd. Their time is over.

The LP has been the party of liberaltarian evil useless turds of the 'right'
I can confirm that when I was libertarian I smoked a lot of weed and my main priority was legalizing it, literally ending wars was a close 2nd but still second. It became legal in my state and within a couple years it went to hell in a hand basket. I stopped smoking Moved to a state where it's basically illegal but not really enforced and my views have changed drastically.
 
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