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[Xarpho's Return]

In my career so far my favorite places to work were boring cookie cutter office parks. Low rise structures, lots of parking, a cubical or separated sometimes shared office, boring and basic. Everything else looks real cool for about 15 minutes but you're still an office drone, the things that matter more are how busy the bathroom is and how much privacy you have to pick your nose or browse twitter.

If you're in a room with (guessing) 10x20 rows of seats, how annoying is it going to be when someone's talking on the phone nearby or leaves a stinker in the bathroom?

Even the restaurants in business parks tend to be better even if you have fewer options.

Edit: I rechecked that image and the rows are back to back. So at least 20x20.... 400 people per room.

Yeah, suburban office buildings are usually the best. Free parking, work on the second floor or maybe the third, and plenty of restaurants if you didn't bring your own. One place I worked had a great baked potato place just about two blocks away and a decent taqueria in the nearby gas station, and within a few miles just about every fast food and quick-serve restaurant that the city had to offer (it wasn't a dense area). There was another place that wasn't a good place to work but the location was great, being located not far away from the freeway, where there were two large shopping centers featuring a number of restaurant options and a supermarket.

In comparison, I worked somewhere near the heart of one of the largest cities in the state and despite being crowded with parking and access issues, the closest restaurants to eat were like four blocks away. At least I had a cubicle and didn't have to deal with some subhuman diversity hire who doesn't believe in personal hygiene while far more competent, likable, and less repulsive people are culled from the payroll.

Problem is, putting offices downtown probably was a way to jumpstart the economy again in downtown areas where most businesses and residents had fled but nowadays there's no reason for it, even without a demand for physical office space. If it's not useful as a location (if it were attached to a large indoor mall/shopping plaza as some office towers are/were) and it's not that prestigious as a company to work for (I doubt that if you're in that open office layout you're not making much by NYC standards), why bother?

Lobby is 1x better than anything else this decade - ass.

The lobby's a bit of a wash. It has the ugly art, the railings and stone/marble floor you see in modern buildings...somehow overbuilt and underwhelming at the same time.

Dunno, first thing I thought of seeing the building.

The Plymouth Arcology is more-or-less based after Blade Runner and working backwards it does seem like a Blade Runner-esque building. But it fits in with the cyberpunk theme of the wealthy, a nearly-extinct middle class, while the plebs, with no common race, language, or culture, toil away on the ground levels.

Was that the intention? Probably not.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Dunno if this vid was already posted in the last 763 pages, but some guy says he doesn't wanna go back to the USA for a number of reasons. No mention seems to be made of the endless waves of military-aged men from underdeveloped nations flooding in, nor a possibility of getting arrested for making "offensive" posts online though. And he's in UK.

How I View the US After 13 Years Living in Europe

- Evan Edinger

Video Chapters
0:00 Hook & Intro
1:01 Why I Don't Miss Guns
4:34 US Style Government vs European Style
7:07 Walkability and Public Transport
9:21 Food Quality and Price
10:36 Healthcare in the US vs Europe
12:04 Consumer Protections in the US vs Europe
12:52 Workers' Rights in the US vs Europe
14:45 Don't US Workers Earn More Money?
16:23 Do Americans Romanticise Europe Too Much?
21:54 SPON
23:06 Conclusion & Outro

(thread tax emphasis by me)

 

[quaawaa]

Dunno if this vid was already posted in the last 763 pages, but some guy says he doesn't wanna go back to the USA for a number of reasons. No mention seems to be made of the endless waves of military-aged men from underdeveloped nations flooding in, nor the possibility of getting arrested for making "offensive" posts online though.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=M1QvVnjiegEHow I View the US After 13 Years Living in Europe

- Evan Edinger

His entire channel is him pandering to ignorant Europeans by lying about the US.

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Archive:

PreserveTube

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The chapter list alone makes me glad that he self-deported. Sorry Eurokiwis, but he's your problem now.

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Jason commented on the video:


This is because they didn't want you to be murdered, not because they couldn't fathom you walking:

Everywhere east of the Capitol in DC is ghetto except for the Navy Yard.

Europeans who move to America: Brilliant engineers, scientists, and businessmen.
Americans who move to Europe: pizza delivery drivers:


Yes, it is the Americans who are brainwashed:

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He also made a follow-up video. I'll let the thumbnail speak for itself:

YouTube (PreserveTube)

The comments he got triggered by:








Even the leafs aren't safe:


Why is he offended by this one? Isn't socialism a good thing?





The video ends with a perfect quote:


Some comments he liked:







If you say that Americans have something, Eurocucks will reflexively hate it (e.g. air conditioning and six figure salaries):


The fanfiction Eurocucks write is ridiculous:

Supermarkets don't sell guns. Extremely rural Walmarts used to before the company went woke, but there's a 0% chance that a European tourist went to one, and even if they did, they wouldn't have heard gunshots in the middle of the night near one.

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On an unrelated note, after I watched the those two videos, YouTube recommended me this one:

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The comments he got triggered by:

That WEF thing must've been especially "triggering" to him. Also, he does look sorta soy.

The video ends with a perfect quote:

Sometimes the opposite happens like maybe in Japan?

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The fanfiction Eurocucks write is ridiculous:

I'm American abroad and sure while healthcare is cheap/free where I am at. I often refuse medical care unless it is something serious or chronic. Not because of some ingrained trauma of cost, but because of American machismo... and the fact that clinics are usually pretty busy and doctors just give you a mishmash of pills to get you out the door quickly because they are paid by the quantity of care, not quality. So unless I want a doctor's note to get out of work or have a problem I can't walk off I usually just go to a pharmacy, describe my symptoms to the clerk, and they will hook me up with something to help. It costs more money this way, but I find this way to be quicker and even more effective in dealing with minor health issues than seeing a doctor, plus I am not clogging up the system with minor bullshit which is a real big problem for social healthcare systems all over the world.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

The fanfiction Eurocucks write is ridiculous:

The only one that sounds remotely believable is "gunshots while trying to sleep in a motel in Phoenix" (I can imagine a really shitty motel having this problem) but it's also recognized as a common tell, that if a liar adds some oddly specific detail in, it's to deliberately build credibility.

Also, weight gain on vacations is extremely common.

Also also, I'm pretty sure most Europeans don't go to the doctor for common, non-life threatening allergies.

 

[Medic]

Also, he does look sorta soy

Sorta soy? He looks like he drinks every flavor of soy. Probably explains why he is close to flipping out about anything remotely related to conservitesm.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Sorta soy? He looks like he drinks every flavor of soy.

If he's soy, he doesn't have to worry about getting arrested for "wrongthink" (as he dare not go there anyway), so that's how he thinks he's more free in the UK than in USA?

Also, I don't get how he's OK with being dependent on public transportation for long trips seeing how the public transportation situation is decaying from that rising crime.

 

[Yamamura]

but it's also recognized as a common tell, that if a liar adds some oddly specific detail in, it's to deliberately build credibility

At this point I just don't trust anyone's personal anecdotes online at all, unless they have some sort of image or video to back it up (even then remain skeptical). It all comes down to "I know a kid who knows a kid's cousin" level of school yard rumors.

I think a lot of them get this idea of America from GTA or Hollywood where you can walk into an Ammunation and buy an RPG.

 

[Jhonson the Two]

If you say that Americans have something, Eurocucks will reflexively hate it (e.g. air conditioning)

That's absolute cope, air conditioning is fire (the day I become rich I'll have one in my big house with some foie gras).
Also why it's always "I live in Europe" and never "I live in [country]? Don't you dare group me with the British putain de sa mère

 

[Judge Dredd]

The issue with cycling infrastructure more than anything is that cyclists and pedestrians are complete retards.

The big issue is that they don't use it.

Where I live, there's a major cycle lane, but recently they renovated to main road (which must have cost a fortune) to make it thinner to incorporate a 2 way cycle lane just 30 feet from the original. I yet I still see cyclists blocking the main road. They have two cycle lanes to choose from within spitting distance of each other and they refuse to use either. A lot of people who ride bikes, e-scooters, etc use the lanes. It's solely the lycra wearing bell ends that insist on riding two abreast on the main road.

There's various saying. Actions speak louder than words. The goal of a system is the outcome. As the thread has made clear, the goal of cyclists isn't to improve cities, it's to punish vehicle owners.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

”Serial killer vibe is just American bs.”​

- a random text

 

[FPTMIU]

Some comments he liked:







If you say that Americans have something, Eurocucks will reflexively hate it (e.g. air conditioning and six figure salaries):


The fanfiction Eurocucks write is ridiculous:

Supermarkets don't sell guns. Extremely rural Walmarts used to before the company went woke, but there's a 0% chance that a European tourist went to one, and even if they did, they wouldn't have heard gunshots in the middle of the night near one.

My God, I never get why liberal europeans have the gayest fucking reasons to hate america. If you asked a right winger, they'd just say "I don't like them for being the #1 cocksuckers of israel", leftists have to give walls of text about fucking road design to back up their hatred.

 

[Kyria the Great]

American road design is actually awesome. There's a reason why you can personally get from one end to the country to another in about 5-7days in personal transportation if you really wanted to. Though not perfect, the fact our highway system can even backed up can evacuate a city in about 24-48 hours is a logistics marvel. My complaint is that the system is starting to fail due to overcrowding and that were not getting enough competent people to fill out those positions.

On that note as Fuckcars ever addressed the looming Competency Crisis that's been building over the decades in no small part due to Diversity Quotas that must be filled no matter what?

 

[M3xus]

Right, I kept meaning to post something here and just kept fucking forgetting. I'm blaming my age.

A couple of months ago, I was at Mackinac Island off Michigan. Mackinac's relevant here because cars have been completely banned since the end of the 19th century, when a backfiring engine startled horses and carriage owners petitioned to have ICEs banned. It was extended to the state park in 1901. I wasn't aware of this until we disembarked, so it made for an interesting experience. It was fairly quiet, though not necessarily idyllic (there were a lot of tourists), but it was nice being able to just cross the street without having to worry about some maniac rounding the corner. As to how the stores got stuff, horse-drawn wagons are brought to the ports where they load the stuff and cart it into town.

Unfortunately for the r/fuckcars crowd, I couldn't help Noticing a few things they probably wouldn't appreciate me Noticing.

Spoiler: Things Noticed about island life

1) the goddamn stench. Main street and the surrounding roads had an inescapable stench of horse manure. The only methods to get away were to duck into the air-conditioned stores or head a few yards to the nearby rock beach on one side of town. The only full reprieve was when I hiked a good half a mile away to the nearby nature preserve area. Having grown up around car fumes and livestock smells, livestock manure still smells worse.

2) It was a very high-trust area. I didn't see any vagrants or hooligans looking for a handout or causing trouble. I found myself actually lowering my guard in a tourist zone, which I was taught from a young age to never do. It probably helps it costs a good bit to get on the ferry and that hardly anyone talks about the island except locals or people that lived in Michigan at some point.

3) The actual residents were very racially homogenous. I think I counted about two or three people of any color working the stores or stocking (that I saw, at least). Even the tourists were mostly white.

4) A big part of why it was pleasant to walk around in was because it was a very pleasant day (mid-80s, low humidity, hardly a cloud in the sky, which is nice for early August). I would probably have been absolutely miserable if I had to get around on a bike when it was raining or there were two feet of snow on the ground.

5) Mackinac is pretty small for an island. My family and I were on it a few hours and we were able to walk everywhere easily. The only thing we didn't do was visit the huge hotel.

Just my little contribution. It was definitely a really nice place to visit, but I realized I wouldn't want to live there during the ferry ride back.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

At this point I just don't trust anyone's personal anecdotes online at all, unless they have some sort of image or video to back it up (even then remain skeptical). It all comes down to "I know a kid who knows a kid's cousin" level of school yard rumors.

I think a lot of them get this idea of America from GTA or Hollywood where you can walk into an Ammunation and buy an RPG.

The thing is, is it plausible without going way out of your way? Greentext school stories always have that air of plausibility around them because of school districts notoriously keeping things under wraps, but that doesn't work in the real life. There are no mainstream grocery stores in the U.S. that sell regularly sell firearms. Again, there's going to be rural stores and independents (the Walmart stores that still sell guns are all rifles now, not handguns or semis...and those are in rural areas) that sell firearms but you'd basically have to look for them...but the other stuff also doesn't work.

Liar psychology works that liars tend to be very gullible, and in large enough numbers lies will bounce off each other until it becomes completely removed from reality.

 

[Yamamura]

There are no mainstream grocery stores in the U.S. that sell regularly sell firearms. Again, there's going to be rural stores and independents (the Walmart stores that still sell guns are all rifles now, not handguns or semis...and those are in rural areas) that sell firearms but you'd basically have to look for them...but the other stuff also doesn't work.

Part of me wonders if he saw this image online and got that idea from here.

 

[BulkForceFive]

It is also substantially vacant, though who knows what the REAL problem is (there could be anything--crime, lack of tourists, lack of residents, ridiculously high rent).

Toronto's PATH underground walkway/shopping center is suffering from the same thing (vacancies) and I'm willing to bet the problem in both cases is exorbitant rent.

Sorta soy? He looks like he drinks every flavor of soy. Probably explains why he is close to flipping out about anything remotely related to conservitesm.

yeah and he STYLED HIMSELF LIKE THAT. Remember when redditt fedora atheism became the punching bag of the day and all the fat gamestore nerd types stopped wearing their dumb hats, because they knew it was now a sign of being a loser? This fucken guy chose that hairstyle, those glasses, that lil beard, etc. knowing full well he would look like some meme about dumb liberal males.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

American road design is actually awesome.

I did not like living in the big city, but one upside to endless stretches of strip malls like in LA or Phoenix is that the grid layout makes it easy to find places. In some old-timey European-y place, it can be like a cobweb of roads all over the place. While the latter may look much better, it sure can make finding stuff a lot harder. Assuming you're not using a "smartphone" or one of those GPS things, an address in a grid layout can be easily reached just by writing down the intersection it is closest to, while a course to an address in a cobweb layout would have to be plotted with a "stick map" (perhaps with landmarks indicated). And good luck planning a bus trip in a cobweb layout.

 

[Eventide]

@M3xus:

Don't let the "R/Fuckcars" title confuse you. As I've covered many times in this thread, fuckcars bugmen despise horse based transportation. Folks on that subreddit are always bitching about horses on mixed use trails, and routinely advocate for total horse annihilation/turning all horse trails into bike trails.

3) The actual residents were very racially homogenous. I think I counted about two or three people of any color working the stores or stocking (that I saw, at least). Even the tourists were mostly white.

Vacationing in a wealthy white town will have you encountering *gasp* mostly white people. If they wanted to see some nogs, than they should have vacationed in Detroit, maybe teach those carbrained motorcity denziens about the virtues of bikes!

Spoiler: powerleveling

& as a definitely not white passing injun horsegirl, I desperately want to ride my horse in front of these fuckcars folks & blow their minds. I wonder how they'll justify horses = white supremacy than?