🌏 General Vtubers You Just Don't Get The Appeal Of - "Your Oshi is Mid"

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I think Gura/Saba is pretty much responsible for cultivating a fanbase full of mentally deranged autists which led to her graduation.
I don't think her fanbase is what made her graduate or else she wouldn't have come back to do pretty much the same exact thing she was already doing cranked to 11. I agree with you on her fanbase being full of deranged autists tho but that seems to happen to all these loli vtubers.
 
Vex the Suneater, less I don't understand and more I don't understand her own brand. Like she both is an e-whore who has nudes and full face dox nude photos out there, but also talks about her kids on her "sfw" streams. Like you can't do both and it's creepy that you try. You've already doomed your kids to future bullying when everyone at school eventually finds and spreads your nudes to them.
 
The new Phase gen, I don't like. I complained about the names before in the general thread but honestly the names aren't as bad as the personas themselves: they're anime trope slop.

Every single one has that immature angle to it, as if all their models and speech patterns were designed from the ground up in service of capturing the gooner audience. VAllure already exists for that, big corpos don't need to be pushing for that direction as well.

There Sinon Sinfonia, a siren whose whole schtick is being a male seducer and saying 'nanoyo' in every sentence
Malice Evermore, vampire girl that's nothing special
Wilhelmina Frost, tsundere Royal knight, another cake of obvious anime tropes, and the name, dear god, so lifeless
Nitya Nil, crocodile girl that is the least bad of the gen despite still being terminally-online suck
Anya Nyabiss, catgirl, I don't need to say anything else

and the worst one by far, Bibi Biscuit, a maid dog girl that (from her initial X posts, anyway) talks like a 10 year old child.

I was so disappointed and mad about the lack of morality that I made a super autisic sperg rant because I don't have better coping mechanisms. I'll put it behind a spoiler so you don't have to get assaulted by it. I hope VTubing doesn't keep going in this direction...

I dislike this Phase gen. All of them. Not them as people, they're probably just the average too-much-online modern girl personality wise, I don't hate them in PL terms. I hate their personas. They are all just wrong in some way or another and it's that dislike that made me write this.

I'm already an ugly introverted mental nutcase as it is, people around me can tell just by looking and 95% just walk by like I'm empty air, and God help the poor men out here in this world who have it worse than me if they're touching anything in this hobby, but especially the new SaGa gen, anywhere outside of their rot-cavern.

Imagine me trying to tell anyone who hasn't already changed their middle name to "Fanservice" about these Vtubers. I'd be working at fucking Walmart or whatever on a lunch break and another guy looks over my shoulder trying to make conversation with me and he'll say the perfectly innocent "what are ya watching there?"

And then I get to watch his face fall as I seal my fate with "Yeah actually I'm watching this little vampire girl called Malice Evermore and she's playing GTA VI. Did you know that she calls her fans like me Reddy Snacks? You know, like with the blood how it's red 'cause she's a vampire? In science class, eighth grade?"

I would see the gears turning in his head, seeing in real time his view of where I think the age of consent is dropping lower and lower and lower with every fucking word out of my mouth. Sakana, man to fish, did you name these people? Did they name themselves? Was it Japanese monkeys on a typewriter after they speedran through a Rule 34 category? Sinon is the least offensively immature of the names we got going on here, and you know what, let me just start ranting about everybody because I have an axe to grind.



Genshin Impact and its consequences have been a disaster for the weeaboo race. Those damn Chinese at Mihoyo have turned about every anime thing on this Earth, girl and boy, into the exact same cookie-cutter persona: as white as a coke line, more loaded with bobby bits than a Christmas tree, and dialogue that makes me think humanity has already been replaced by personality puppets.

I watched the trailer of this gen because I wanted to see the looks, maybe they're slick and interesting, different than all of the other VTubers coming around these days, but nope, it's almost all the same biblical flood of pale boutta die of anemia, basic ass trinkets and the most childish, unsubtle, bland ideas that have ever been seen this side of Honshu. Fucking incredible that there has been years of this little corner of the internet growing faster than Bitcoin, so much experimentation is possible in this field, and yet all six of you girls fall into the same slop modern anime trappings that make me wanna just break my glasses and swear off the internet. One by one, let's ready the AR-15, starting with:

Malice Evermore! Wow, I wonder what it's gonna be? A stereotypically evil character type from classical literature? Oh, is it a Vampire? Holy shit! Revolutionary! Totally not been done to death. Would've also been the name of a cosplaying OnlyFans account if she'd ever get tired of using OBS and Steam accounts, because honestly that's the first thing that pops into my mind. It doesn't confuse me or irritate me as much as it makes me depressed. Too many of your kind already exist and I'm desensitized to hearing about yet another one.

And then there's Anya Nyabyss, I typed her last name smushing my head onto the keyboard, and she's probably the 10 gazillonth cat girl that'll just say Mrow~! and Nya~! so many times that Daft Punk will sue for stealing their word style. The only reason I'm leaving you off with a paper cut is because you've got a fellow pet friend that's many times worse.

Poor Sinon, as weird as her unfortunate name is, could have actually been a cool concept, if they tried. Have a Medusa-like long-ass snake hair, give her a look that doesn't imply that her age ends in 'teen', that would have been at least something unique I can give props for, but no. Typical anime red-pink, facepaint that makes no sense for a seducer-type, and this girl, after a quick spy on the social, 100% couldn't ever ever talk like a mature woman even if Fauna gave her early menopause. She's the one actually getting the Daft Punk lawsuit.

Nitya Nil. Honestly I almost forgot you existed because your name is such a debuff. It's not even eye-catching in the fanservice roll-my-eyes way, like most of the rest of the gen, instead it just kinda falls flat and leaves the mind, like everything Brave Group does. The whoever it was that made your model, you know what, they actually did try for you. I like the model. It looks unique, with the rare dark green hair that's short on the front, the bat and tooth hospital-y mask, it's actually a very intriguing look that gives me a lot to chew with in the mind.

But then that mind starts choking harder than the average VAllure talent on their microphones the instant I realize that you are trying to be a cutesy rawr! I'm so scary, I'm biting on those succulent anklies!!!! crocodile. A crocodile. I'm sorry, what? That snouty-nosed monster that fucks around in mossy water and you're gonna anime that? Why?

You could have been, I dunno, a horror villain, hitgirl, punk-esque musician, those would have all been interesting, especially if the kawaii was beaten out of you for it, but a random animal swimming in swamp ass was apparently the way to go. A crocodile, of all things. You disappoint me like a son who's a brony disappoints their father.

Now, Kaiserin, we'll talk about you, Miss Wilhelmina Frost. You are the most 'working title' of all these names. Oh, I'm a royal knight! Water is also wet, the sun rises from the east, and Nijisanji is black. You are laughably generic. I'm in the cold! Oh, that's never been done before. Where's the fucking Squidward meme, throw her face all up in there because she acts Tsundere, too! The in-your-face airhead kind.

Like the German Empire, you'll have a hot start, get bogged down in the trenches of streaming, and then lose the war. For views, that is. You have '3view that only jumps to 4view for three minutes whenever you get a raid' written all over that fucking lazy-ass knight tight-suit and six months from now you're gonna be sitting in that chair wondering what you can do to get more Chill Dukes or whatever you're gonna call your fans. There won't be an answer, of course, because you have as much reach as a quadruple amputee has: none whatsoever.

Must've been a RWBY watcher. Either that or you/whoever decided on your persona asked ChatGPT what a cool icey girl VTuber would be and just ingested it straight out of Sam Altman's mouth. You really could've missed the launch date and never came out, and not one person on Earth would have ever checked on you.



Those five, though, boil my blood less than the last one in the gen. You wanna know what the worst name and idea is by far, the one that really makes me unhingededly spergy mad?
Bibi Biscuit.

Biwanwanna rinse my mouth out with soap just thinking about dog girls. This company is probably called Phase Connect now because everyone's new 'phase' is just them jerking their cocks so hard to moe that their semen turns into a gas instead of staying liquid. That name suggestion should have put whoever came with that abomination in a gulag for the next five centuries.

It sounds so baby-ish. Sameko Saba, the reincarnation of Gura that was basically as close as one could get to pedo-bait, has a less icky name than Bibi. With Saba it's just a blatant flirt with weabooing name-wise, Bibi Biscuit, though… That's the exact name that someone who wanted to make all Vtubing-related people sound like six-year-olds would come up with. I think if I said it three times fast a spell would activate and turn me into a literal baby.

The trailer tells me all I need to know about you. Not only are you a dog girl, probably the most vomit-inducing of the moe girls one could come up with, you're a maid dog girl. Pinpoint fucking degeneracy, I can hear the guys hunched over their phones and laptops going up and down, up and down on the slide whistle, yammering on every time you stream saying "Bibi! Keep licking up your jerky stick! You're such a good girl! Mmmmmmmmm!"

If Jesus Christ came back to Earth and saw the way people were enjoying a fictional character with your personage on this planet, he would nail himself back onto the cross. Parents will cover their child's eyes if any of your fans ever walk on the same side of the street they're walking on. Your existence is, by far, the lowest a big corpo has ever sunk to. At least VAllure, as low as they are on the morality pole, gives their girls better names. If you had a pic of one of them saved to your phone you wouldn't immediately get a police car blaring towards your location because of grooming allegations. (grooming, ha ha, dogs get groomed. Bibi won't be the only one being groomed while she's an active streamer) Humanity is worse off allowing this to exist.

Why, Phase Connect? Why, Sakana? Was this really you? Has the shame drained away from your soul because you've spent too much time surrounded by the Vtubing sphere? Hololive has lines they won't cross, even if that makes them too stuck up at times. Nijisanji, even though driving a talent almost to suicide is perfectly alright for them, they have lines that they won't cross. Apparently this corporation is now the pure embodiment of capitalism, exploiting the Western lean to a T. Manchild-Americans are more divorced from how real women think than Ancient Aliens, and apparently going after that cum-topped sweat-soaked meatpie is how you're gonna make your cash.

I want to have even a small passing interest in Phase for being unique and interesting but this whole gen, especially Bibi Biscuit, has taken away most of that good feelings. If this is the way Vtubers are gonna go, then Vtubing watchers in general need to be treated as the lowest of the low, right down there with furries and Bluesky addicts. Anything that even touches anime might as well be buried in the Nevada desert, they'd be more useful to polite society decaying in a concrete tomb thousands of feet underground compared to where they are now.

Thank god that I don't actually watch VTubers. Thank god the Tylenol I took to get as autismo as I am left me with enough brain cells to not be infected with the parasite that is being an actual fan of anime and its tropes. If Japan didn't give up on WWII and the USA took out 3/4 of the male population with Operation Downfall maybe this wouldn't have happened. Maybe some of these people would wake up in the morning and do something that even approaches respectable. Make something. Buy a million fucking model trains or superhero comics or even just sit there sucking their thumb and hugging a teddy bear. Eunuchs were onto something, maybe we should bring those back around for 'em too. Every day more of these porn-sick fantasies come to life we lose another soul. May God and Allah or even that beluga whale come and save our decaying morality.
 
The new Phase gen, I don't like.
Your rant got a chuckle outta me I'll give you that. The only thing I have to contribute is Nitya just comes off like a green Gura to me. She even looks similar if you compare Gura's art rather than the models specifically.
 
Mferes be like "Omg my little crocodile vtuber gf" and it's a generic anime girl with green hair, sharp teeth and a hoodie resembling scales.

Given how important branding is to these copy-paste clones, it's hilarious when they truly put in zero effort. At least that one neanderthal sabertooth chick went all the way with her design.

Why even be animal themed when you're barely leaning into it? It's one thing to decide to want to be part animal, but when it's like, part "muscle mommy" or other such things you'd have to work hard for irl, it gets icky. "I decided my character has the looks of a competing bodybuilder. No I've never been to the gym myself, I stream all day lmao".
 
Kronii. As in i don't understand her at all.
I don't understand her humor, i don't understand the way she speaks, i don't understand the way she thinks.
Just don't get her at all.
Came here to say this. No matter what she's doing she seems annoyed to be there.
I have studied the specimen and arrived at the conclusion that she lowkey hates herself, and by extension everything she's a part of. Which seems to make her simultaneously willing to humiliate herself and loath to be reminded of it. And generally weird and awkward.

Honestly a lot more interesting to watch in that regard, like how Batman stories are more interesting when you realize he's a grandstanding hypocrite who isn't willing to tarnish his own image for the greater good and he's really just using vigilantism as a way to assuage his survivor's guilt.
 
Vex the Suneater, less I don't understand and more I don't understand her own brand. Like she both is an e-whore who has nudes and full face dox nude photos out there, but also talks about her kids on her "sfw" streams. Like you can't do both and it's creepy that you try. You've already doomed your kids to future bullying when everyone at school eventually finds and spreads your nudes to them.
Update:
She's now commissioned VTuber pngs, with actual full models in the works, for her kids to use both on stream with her as well as for their own private use eventually. Her kids are both minors with I believe the son being in his early teens while the daughter is younger.

In a different context I'd find this maybe slightly endearing but overall a bad decision considering you shouldn't influence kids to be content producers like this especially that young unless you've instilled in them good OpSec practices/knowledge. But considering this bitch is just an e-whore by any other name she's just dooming these kids and putting them barely one step removed from prostitution essentially.
 
Update:
She's now commissioned VTuber pngs, with actual full models in the works, for her kids to use both on stream with her as well as for their own private use eventually.
So, putting the whole placing your kids in front of an audience that is made up in part of people who pay to jack off to you aside. What kind of retard even tells her kids about her vtuber persona that is two clicks away from them finding her nudes?
 
So, putting the whole placing your kids in front of an audience that is made up in part of people who pay to jack off to you aside. What kind of retard even tells her kids about her vtuber persona that is two clicks away from them finding her nudes?
Maybe her and Pizzacake share the same braincell
 
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