let me nail down my reasoning a bit. I have friends and family in his district, and they used to support him (i did as well, used to like him and have met the guy) but they don't anymore. You remember that big thing he did with the 'victims of jeffery epstein" a few months ago. They said they were gonna give Massie a list of people that were fucking kids. Well, did you know who lead that press conference. gloria fuckign allred, that was a huge red flag. What ever happened to their list, btw? maybe i missed something, who knows.
Also, you already have 2 million in anti massie ads being dumped all over teh tv/radio. That's just the start, i've seen rumors of 5+ million being dumped into PACs and super PACs waiting for a serious challenger. Aipac and the zionist lobby (even miram herself throwing a stack of cash) https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/07/31/congress/maga-ky-super-pac-donors-00487931 they want him gone. Kentuckians i know want him gone as well.
All this said, i'm more interested in the race for Mitch's seat, right now it's two mitch acolytes, and that seat is far more important than Massie's former house seat. Daniel Cameron and Andy Barr are scumbag fucks that will be almost as bad as mitch, but without the senority and power of mitch. Interesting enough, my guy, my pick for that seat is Nate morris, and Charlie kirk actually was pushing for Nate to get a nod from trump.
No one wants any fucking Bernie supporters anywhere near their party, and you're a massive fool for thinking Bernie fucking Sanders' supporters are sane and would make a sane party. How do you look at the people at Bernie's rallies and speeches and think "Yes finally! Sane Democrats!"? Are you high? Bernie Sanders supporters in reality are the dumbest most pathetic sack of shits in the political world, literally political cucks.
Besides that, why the fuck would Bernie bros rally under Gabbard? Trump is their ultimate boogeyman and they hate him and anyone associated with him. She is a traitor of the highest order as far as they and every other Dem subfaction are concerned.
No one wants any fucking Bernie supporters anywhere near their party, and you're a massive fool for thinking Bernie fucking Sanders' supporters are sane and would make a sane party. How do you look at the people at Bernie's rallies and speeches and think "Yes finally! Sane Democrats!"? Are you high? Bernie Sanders supporters in reality are the dumbest most pathetic sack of shits in the political world, literally political cucks.
A lot of bernouts flipped to trump in 2016, not sure how many of them stuck around, or how many went back to bernie in 2020. i'd say a good number of them converted.
bernie was selling a lie, but he put a flowery spin on it. not all of those folks deserve condemnation. it does remind me a in a very tiny way that a lot of the former kennedy folks are all in with trump. maha folks tend ot be some pretty good people from what i've seen.
No one wants any fucking Bernie supporters anywhere near their party, and you're a massive fool for thinking Bernie fucking Sanders' supporters are sane and would make a sane party. How do you look at the people at Bernie's rallies and speeches and think "Yes finally! Sane Democrats!"? Are you high? Bernie Sanders supporters in reality are the dumbest most pathetic sack of shits in the political world, literally political cucks.
Am glad ya posted this sonce wanted to give an update on the saga of the shutdown 5 freeway during this.
But today the New York times scooped everyone (especially the local journoslimes) to report that a California Highway Patrol car had been hit by a shell that had prematurely exploded in mid air and hit a CHP car that was parked at an off ramp. The CHP, did a press release with pictures of the fragment and resulting damage to the car. So now Newsome is trying the I told you so, with so many fucking anomalies decided to line up to have this happen. Really activated my almonds.
This shit is hilarious to me. I don't claim to be an expert, so will page @Jet Fuel Johnny to see if he can shed some light on it. Here are the pics from the press release. View attachment 8057292
Now again Im not an expert, but if this was from an exploded shell the vehicle would of been pierced not dented. Oh and they searched the area and could only find 3 pieces that were 2 at about 2 inches and 1 at 1 inch. The Marine Corps is going to investigate, but why do I have a feeling this evidence is gonna come up missing when they come knocking to do the investigation.
CHP PRODUCES INCIDENT REPORT AFTER ARTILLERY ROUND FROM CAMP PENDLETON PREMATURELY DETONATED MIDFLIGHT WITH DEBRIS STRIKING PATROL VEHICLE
Published: October 19, 2025
Report also recommends after action review on communications and coordination with federal and local government agencies on rare live fire military exercise over civilian infrastructure
CAMP PENDLETON, Calif.— The California Highway Patrol (CHP) published an internal report on an incident that occurred on Saturday, October 18, in which metal shrapnel from explosive ordnance fired over the Interstate 5 freeway detonated overhead prematurely, striking and damaging a CHP patrol vehicle. The incident happened in the area where CHP officers were supporting a traffic break along I-5 near Camp Pendleton during an exceptional U.S. Marine Corps live-fire training demonstration over the freeway, and where the CHP had elected to stop traffic during the live-fire exercise.
“This was an unusual and concerning situation,” said CHP Border Division Chief Tony Coronado. “It is highly uncommon for any live-fire or explosive training activity to occur over an active freeway. As a Marine myself, I have tremendous respect for our military partners, but my foremost responsibility is ensuring the safety of the people of California and the officers who protect them.”
-Border Division Chief Tony Corondao
Although no injuries were reported, CHP personnel immediately notified the Marine Corps at the scene, who then canceled firing additional live ordnance over the freeway, and the area was swept for further evaluation. The CHP has filed an internal report on the incident, with a recommendation to conduct an additional after-action review into the planning, communication and coordination between federal, state, and local government around the event on Saturday, October 18, to strengthen protocols for future demonstrations and training events near public roadways.
The mission of the CHP is to provide the highest level of Safety, Service, and Security to everyone in California.
Artillery Shell Detonated Over Interstate 5 During Marines’ Celebration, California Officials Say
The mishap, during an anniversary celebration for the Marine Corps attended by the vice president and defense secretary, underscores safety concerns that Gov. Gavin Newsom voiced before Saturday’s event at Camp Pendleton.
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A sign over a highway near Interstate 5 in Southern California displaying a warning message “Live Weapons Over Freeway.”
A warning over a highway near Interstate 5 alerted drivers about the military using live weapons on Saturday.Credit...Patrick Fallon/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
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By John IsmayLaurel Rosenhall and Zolan Kanno-Youngs
John Ismay reported from Washington. Laurel Rosenhall and Zolan Kanno-Youngs reported from California.
Oct. 19, 2025
A 155-millimeter shell fired during a live-fire demonstration for the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton on Saturday prematurely detonated, dropping fragments of the shell on a California Highway Patrol vehicle and motorcycle that were part of Vice President JD Vance’s protective detail, according to a patrol report.
No officers were hurt in the mishap, which dropped shrapnel onto the vehicles parked on a ramp to a major freeway that had been ordered closed by Gov. Gavin Newsom. The governor had objected to the plan to fire over the freeway, Interstate 5, and ordered a 17-mile stretch closed — against the guidance of military officials, who had said it was safe for it to remain open.
According to the patrol report, one officer described what sounded like pebbles hitting his motorcycle and the area around him, and two others saw a two-inch piece of shrapnel hit the hood of their patrol vehicle, leaving a small dent. The report says shrapnel was also found on the road near the motorcycle.
Mr. Newsom had warned that the Marine Corps’ plans to fire artillery shells over Interstate 5, the West Coast’s main north-south artery, could pose hazards for motorists on the stretch between Los Angeles and San Diego. The closure he ordered on Saturday caused significant backups on the portion of the interstate, which is used by approximately 80,000 people daily.
“We love our Marines and owe a debt of gratitude to Camp Pendleton, but next time, the vice president and the White House shouldn’t be so reckless with people’s lives for their vanity projects,” Mr. Newsom said in a statement to The New York Times.
Lt. Col. Lindsay Pirek, a spokeswoman for the First Marine Expeditionary Force at Camp Pendleton, said the Corps was aware of the report of a possible airborne detonation, and an investigation was underway.
“We are committed to determining the incident’s root cause and applying findings to future missions,” Colonel Pirek said. The statement did not provide additional detail on the munitions used during the exercise.
A spokesman for Mr. Vance declined to comment and referred reporters to the First Marine Expeditionary Force.
According to the report filed by the California Highway Patrol, the artillery round was fired at 1:46 p.m. from White’s Beach, approximately three-quarters of a mile south of Las Pulgas Road, where the highway patrol officers were parked after escorting Mr. Vance to the event.
The exercise — which the report said was expected to include the firing of approximately 60 155-millimeter shells — was terminated after the round prematurely exploded, the patrol said. Patrol officers checked the interstate for shell fragments but found none, and declared it clear before reopening it to vehicular traffic at 2:20 p.m.
The demonstration was part of a larger exercise marking the Corps’ 250th anniversary, attended by Mr. Vance and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. A Marine spokesman accompanying reporters witnessing the exercise was pulled aside by another Marine after the initial volley was fired by M777 howitzers, then told members of the news media that the initial plan for multiple volleys had been scaled back. The spokesman, Lt. Col. Brian Coleman, noted that there had been a lengthy back and forth between officials in the days leading up to the event, but gave no further information.
The decision to fire live artillery shells from the oceanfront training area was described as unusual by an active-duty Marine artillery officer and a former Marine artillery noncommissioned officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they feared reprisal. Those Marines said the only howitzer training they had previously observed at Camp Pendleton had taken place at approved artillery ranges on the main side of base, east of the interstate, which they said were a much safer option for training.
A highway patrol official based in the area also described it as an “unusual and concerning situation.” Tony Coronado, the highway patrol’s border division chief, said in a statement that “it is highly uncommon for any live-fire or explosive training activity to occur near an active freeway.”
Such mishaps are exceedingly rare, according to an active duty Marine who has spent more than 20 years as an artillery officer. The Marine, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said that the most likely explanation for such a mishap was a fault in the projectile’s fuze — a mechanical or electromechanical device fitted to the nose of the shell that causes it to explode.
The Marines fired howitzer shells across Interstate 5 on Friday evening as a rehearsal, evidently without incident.
The Marine Corps said before the event that the exercise would occur on “approved training ranges and comport with established safety protocols” without the need to close public roads.
“All air, surface and ground movements are scripted and rehearsed in accordance with standard operating procedures and established safety checklists,” the Marines said.
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A lot of bernouts flipped to trump in 2016, not sure how many of them stuck around, or how many went back to bernie in 2020. i'd say a good number of them converted.
bernie was selling a lie, but he put a flowery spin on it. not all of those folks deserve condemnation. it does remind me a in a very tiny way that a lot of the former kennedy folks are all in with trump. maha folks tend ot be some pretty good people from what i've seen.
Now again Im not an expert, but if this was from an exploded shell the vehicle would of been pierced not dented. Oh and they searched the area and could only find 3 pieces that were 2 at about 2 inches and 1 at 1 inch. The Marine Corps is going to investigate, but why do I have a feeling this evidence is gonna come up missing when they come knocking to do the investigation.
I'm not an expert either but I know basic stuff and a shell certainly exploded prematurely but the fragments hit terminal velocity well before reaching the ground and basically nothing happened. Similar to shooting a bullet up in the air, even if it hits something it is unlikely to do anything on the way down.
Shit astonishes me as well.I try to understand, but if you are given a helping hand, why the fuck would you REMAIN in that situation? Chances are she might end up dead btw
The thing is, you have to take the entire situation into account, such as all the unseen times where he was a "good person" to her (i.e. all the times where he gave emotional validation to someone who clearly lacked it--they don't call them "the ties that bind" for nothing). Then there's the fact that they've obviously built some kind of a life together to the point that they have their own house and child (nevermind if the house itself bears the marks of his abusing her), which in the mind of someone desperately craving any kind of permanence in their life is just another weight keeping them bound to their abusive situation.
You can't - can't - appeal to a person's "rational" nature in this kind of scenario--because in their mind, the "rational" solution is to stay where they feel the most safe, even if they know it isn't.
You did the best that you knew how to do--but here's how to do it right (more right, anyway--there isn't a one-size fits all scenario for these things):
Instead of rolling up with the posse and announcing that you were there to rip her away from her place of safety (the self-deception runs deep and wide, y'see), start by sending one person who she knows at least a little...and chat. Ask how she and her kid are doing, ask if she's gotten up to anything lately (you both know she hasn't and can't, but it puts it in the front of her mind), and basically just put into her mind that there's someone she can actually share a bit of her life with outside of her husband's control--and more importantly, that her self-image doesn't need to be entirely tied to his.
I'm not an expert either but I know basic stuff and a shell certainly exploded prematurely but the fragments hit terminal velocity well before reaching the ground and basically nothing happened. Similar to shooting a bullet up in the air, even if it hits something it is unlikely to do anything on the way down.
I elaborated on it more in the previous thread, but I don't think it did. Besides all of the reasons in the other thread (and here), but there also would have been an explosion that would of been heard when it happened. I was at the celebration yesterday, I also hear it everytime, when Marines blow shit up. There is a "cadence" in the explosions, and a premature one would of broken that cadence. There was never an odd one out explosion. For every howitzer that was fired there was the corresponding "boomie" (as my wife calls them) in cadence with all the others.
No one wants any fucking Bernie supporters anywhere near their party, and you're a massive fool for thinking Bernie fucking Sanders' supporters are sane and would make a sane party. How do you look at the people at Bernie's rallies and speeches and think "Yes finally! Sane Democrats!"? Are you high? Bernie Sanders supporters in reality are the dumbest most pathetic sack of shits in the political world, literally political cucks.
Bernie was a fucking sham candidate, but he did one thing beautifully, and that was highlight exactly how fucked the Dems were. In 2016, we got to see in real time as they saw a candidate floated by a populist upswell and decide that this was the time they were going to kneecap that shit and run the most status quo candidate to ever status quo - I.E. the one fucking candidate that was virtually made to lose to an outsider riding a populist wave.
....The Dems learned nothing from this and kneecapped him again in 2020.
As a candidate, Bernie was and still is dogshit. As a fucking walking, talking advertisement for why MAGA as a movement exists and as a vector for dejected Dems to sign onto the Trump train, he was fucking smashing. His being very publicly fucked out of the running twice was the greatest fucking PR Trump ever could have asked for, making tons of them wake the fuck up and realize that their own side was never going to allow them to have a single fucking inch.
The ones still calling for Sanders now? Yeah, fuck'em, they have no sense of pattern recognition. But the ones who got burned and turned that shit into purpose? Sign 'em up.
I know these lunatics love claiming Lincoln loved himself some brown suga', but are they now also trying to claim he'd totally be a tranny chaser if given the chance too?
Wonder if they know he was pro-gun rights and didn't particularly object to the "3/5ths of a person" valuation of niggers.
They definitely don't know that Lincoln was planning on deporting all the niggers back to Africa following emancipation and probably would have done it if he hadn't gotten noscoped in Ford's Theatre.
Personally the only people in my peer group I absolutely know have struck their partner are all women, and it was they themselves that told me. I understand there are male monsters out there at a huge rate, and that maybe the women in my life don't feel comfortable communicating what happens to them, but it is heartbreaking how many women I do know that casually mention punching their partners in anger as if it's some humorous lark or something that should be brushed aside as it's a decades old friend group. And it's never in defense, just anger. We're talking more than 4 in an immediate peer group.
Yeah, I agree. I think there are more violent women than men out there, at least in relationships. Women have been conditioned for nearly as long as niggers have that they can be violent towards men with no consequences. Society has been conditioned hard to accept this.
There's a "funny" clip on Youtube of a couple who did an experiment, having themselves recorded in public being aggressively angry and (lightly) violent towards each other to watch people's reactions. They took turns being the aggressor and victim. They'd come out of a retail shop on a busy mall (like an outlet mall or something) having a very loud and animated argument. People would obviously start watching. If she started hitting him, other women would just do that "covered gaping mouth oh-no-he-di-int!" horseshit and laugh. Men would put on their "oh fuck what did he do?" face. Not once did anyone dare step in to stop it, even as she put on a show of getting increasingly brutal.
Take one fucking guess how it worked when he was the physical aggressor. You think even one fucking person, male or female, would have entertained the notion for even a moment that it was a voluntary "experiment" to see how people would react? Fuck no. They only acted it out twice, because both times, random John. Q. Burly McKillington stepped up instantly to protect "not-m'lady" from the obviously evil and nasty angry man. She legitimately had to step in between the white knights and her partner, forcibly secure their attention and point to the camera to get the testosterone fountain shut off enough to avoid bloodshed.
Now obviously part of this is because we're hardwired to understand men are bigger than women, etc., and to be protective of them, so we'll never get around that instinctive response. Unfortunately, our culture encourages women to take full advantage of it. Go watch any police body cam video where a woman gets arrested for beating her husband. EVERYONE is always super-careful to make extra-super-duper sure she's the actual aggressor, and even when it's painfully clear she starting throwing down first, they still ask excessive questions to see if juuuuuust maybe the man didn't somehow deserve it anyway (despite it being wrong and illegal in any event). And in the comments, you always see comments like "oh wow, see, not every domestic abuser is a man!"
The game's rigged and women know it. Unless there's good fucking cameras and/or an overwhelming number of reliable witnesses, all a woman has to do if she wants to kick the shit out of her man is 1) get the drop on him enough to actually get it rolling so he can't/won't defend himself, then 2) not lose her composure when police ask what happened. Even if he doesn't hit back, if she does it right, she can send him to jail anyway. Cops are fucking stupid, and white knighting doesn't stop just because there's a badge on the chest.
The only saving grace is that women are hysterical lunatics when they get angry, and so step #2 above is damn-near impossible if the man can keep his cool during the on-site police interview and she gets even a momentary impression that they may not be 100% believe her story. If she's pissed enough to get violent, she'll lose her shit again when the cops dare question the narrative.
Source: ex-wife tried it with me, and lost. Cops don't intimidate me and my head hurt far too much to appear even remotely threatening, and she absolutely hated not being instantly believed 100%. It's interesting having a woman officer walk back over to you (walking away from your shrieking banshee of an ex screaming at them for not doing their jobs) and apologizing to you for not believing you. First time a woman's ever said "sorry" to me that I actually believed meant it. They didn't arrest or charge me, and cut me loose. Never saw the cunt again. Of course, it goes without saying they didn't charge her either despite all my injuries. Fucking pricks.
Instead of rolling up with the posse and announcing that you were there to rip her away from her place of safety (the self-deception runs deep and wide, y'see), start by sending one person who she knows at least a little...and chat.
We did. It was well-planned. She agreed to go. Then when we showed up, she changed her mind, sent us away and started drifting away from the group until she vanished for good. No clue how she's doing now. Don't particularly care. 50/50 chance she's either pretending to be happy while flinching every day or laying dead and unburied in a ditch somewhere and nobody's bothered looking for her for years.
Like I said, astonishingly stupid. We were all dumbfounded. An actual out-loud "what the fuck?" moment from people who rarely used foul language.
Our founding fathers were trying to create a nation that allowed people to handle their own affairs and run things how they see fit, but still unified as a nation. The colonies up north were the ultra libs equivalent with their obsession with creating a shining city on the hill and were trying all sorts of wacky and progressive (at the time) policies. They were allowed to exist with states of different politics and belief because states were mostly autonomous and that freedom allowed them to experiment with policies that other states can voluntarily adopt too if they are good. If the northerners were way more aggressive in pushing their bullshit federally like the dems are today the union would have been good as dead.
China is putting 1/3 of our military budget into Industry investmentt, on a federal level we dont spend a dollar in a comparable way, its left to states who then turn to private equity. Even then its absoloutly a joke that we spend less than a 1/3rd of what they do per year and theirs is targeted and focused our is decentralized and short term profit motivated.
you CANNOT fathom how much waste went into that shitter ass fighter that is already outdated. We need to shore up manufacturing at home before trying to be international hegemon View attachment 8057197
If we dont make money moves RIGHT THE FUCK NOW, it will be to late, hell it might already be to late but im not giving up. This is a realistic policy outline, hundreds of billions wont come from nowhere. Either we radically change our platform right now or watch our multi trillion dollar fighters be swarmed by thousand dollar drones with no factories at home to make up the loses.
I agree with most of this. I think the f35 is a great jet. Maybe even the best. Was it worth 2 trillion, no. I bet a lot of that went to nepotism and pointless shit.
The welfare system needs to be revamped to insensitivize working. jobs need to be able to give men a family and a home. It'll take trillions in spending.
I think the big hope to get us out of our economic problems is ai. I just don't know if it'll actually help asuch as what they think it will.
The best part is, even if you assume these numbers are true, so what? What difference does it make? Is Trump suddenly not president? Have the Senate Republicans caved and agreed to vote for infinite illegal healthcare? No? Then what the fuck was the point?
It's a few things. First off, as someone mentioned a few dozen pages back, the Boomers cannot STAND the idea that the world might be moving on from them, leaving them behind. The idea is unthinkable to them. To them, a bunch of 65 year old fat fucks stomping out pretending it's Kent State again means the Government HAS to take them seriously, because they're the Boomerati and they are the main characters of history.
But more than that, I think it's marketing. A major part of the left is that people support the left becuase everyone supports the left. They HAVE to keep the illusion that they are the "default" party in the US, or things get... complicated electorally for them. They want these massive protests even if they have to fake the numbers becuase they're hoping it inspires more protests. They send people out in frog costumes and banana suits because they want people to consider them to be the poor oppwess'd masses, and not a bunch of rich bored boomers trying to re-live the glory days when they had just started destroying their own culture that they refuse to give up.
It's like the old Days of Rage, when they thought the entire world was ready to rise up and give them a communist utopia, they just needed a sign to knock people out of their comfort zone -- pipe bombs. Everyone will rise up and do the left's own Jan 6th, only this time with systemic support instead of Fedboys inciting it all, they just have to do a protest and spark some kent state type incident again and the media will film it and everyone will clap and give the presidency to Queen Kamala, long may she reign.
Some game the woke are obsessed with for some reason, edgy as fuck. All about a stranded spaceship where the crew is basically doomed and how they handle the last few days of their lives. (Not well, it turns out.)
They made a Nendroid about it. Nendroids are a legendary figurine line in Japan, notable for having the same general art style, interchangeable accessories, et cetera. Kind of like Funko pops only not made by soulless monsters masquerading as humans. But enough about Jews.
These figurines come with accessories, including swappable hands/faces/hair/etc.
And one of the faces + accessories + possible poses depicts either the character's death scene or the immediate aftermath of her rape. I highly believe the later.
Ah yeas Schrödinger’s founding father, the founding fathers are simultaneously brave revolutionary lefties but also evil right wingers that allowed slavery. I think trying to ascribe such notions of the modern definition of left and right onto people who had no concept or idea of such things is stupid and misses out on important historical context.
Minor Dissent isn’t a lefty, he’s a weird radical centrist type whose political foundation fundamentally boils down to “politics are a waste of time and you should focus on self improvement”.
His following used to mostly be BTC maxxers and more esoteric right wing chud types. That was until it came out that the insurance CEO shooter Mangione was one of his followers and they apparently conversed a lot on Twitter. This caused his following to blow up overnight with tons of new leftist (women) followers. I’m not sure where he stands politically now, but I’m pretty certain that tweet is intended to be a): provocative, and b): an extension of his idea that “yesterday’s left wing politics are tomorrow’s right wing politics, turning the clock back on culture is impossible” which is one of his core points regarding the folly of political poisoning. Interesting guy.
