🤝 Community Omegaverse, Yaoi, and MPreg Fandom Discussion Thread - God help us all

[Chandelier]

> '84
Please tell me this is some thing and not a 41 year old

I believe she's actually 41. She continues with that discourse.


Clock that tea.

"Stop saying we only care about males! We have to fight the common enemy, the males we can't stop thinking about!"

"Doctor" Baixue makes another appearance:


We then learn using "male centered" is radfem speak:

Spoiler: Denial is a river in Egypt

It's about you centering men, particularly pale men, all the time.

"Fandom isn't centered on men"


"BL would be everywhere if not for misogyny" says the gay man who, as a matter of principle, does not engage with female characters:

*Women like WHITE dicks. Keep those goddamned niggers away.

"I hate men but I love BL"
Yes you're still male centric.

"It's not activism but we think it's activism"


"I just don't get why lesbians complain so much!"


Some pushback:

There's also the problem of yaoi fanartists hanging around shotacons and drawing questionable material. You know the fandom for this one; it's this year's heavy hitter.

Spoiler

Posting shit like this:


Or this:

Art isn't too too bad. It reminds me of Yakichou, another popular yaoi artist. That's not the issue. Look at this braindead interaction:

Nyah nyah cat. This was for a competition in which 700 artists were picked to do a single frame. Not all of the art is good. A lot of it is fucking terrible.

I'll shut up about this for now. I'm more concerned about her hanging around shotacons. Her name is Marn D and she's out of Canada. Used to draw GhostSoap before moving on to the biggest ship of the year. 1.6k sales, 520 positive reviews. She's not selling the zippertit pictures.

Pic related.

Always a white girl.

In related fandom news, The Moxang Dongshu fandom had this little controversy:

This thread never fails to entertain me. Focusing on the victim being black as opposed to the hybristophile degeneracy is *chefs kiss* White boys murdering other white boys is the only thing that passes the unproblematic check.

The best part about this, and why I'm even posting it, is that these are all progshits. They will post about black lives matter and racism and then turn around and act like restrictive covenant whites.

 

[AI generated waifu]

How to make a good male character:
Idk lol just go all out and do what you want basically

How to make a good female character:
- Don't make her too hot or sexy, this is unfeminist because men like it and it makes fat women insecure or something
- Don't make her too cool because then she's either a boring girlboss Mary Sue or some icky man's dommy mommy fetish
- Don't ever project yourself onto her because you can't make female characters too self indulgent, stupid woman
- Ask yourself every time: is this character detail I've added feminist? If you add something unfeminist to a female character, start over again.
- Remember: female characters are defined by what people's first impression is of them. Hot women are only their sexuality, ugly women are only there for woke points, sweet women are only waifubait, rude women are irredeemable turbocunts. Does that fact bother you? Then just stick to writing male characters lol.
- Basically, make the process of writing a female character as little fun as possible.

If you have any issues with my tips, you're probably some stupid male or a filthy lesbian.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

In related fandom news, The Moxang Dongshu fandom had this little controversy:

Take the fandom for MXTX’s GrandMaster of Demonic Cultivation (Mo Dao Zu Shi) this past week. A user, I’ll redact for the time being, made a twitter thread about a potential story where cultivator Lan Wangji is a “colonizer” and Wei Wuxian was essentially analogous to an Indigenous American… and then at the end wrote the following endnote:

“context: basically, this is inspired by the history of colonizers conquering via diseases. Like… they purposely spread that by giving blankets fresh from children who died from smallpox

Anyway, sally wanted darkji so i wrote colonizerji for tonight’s #DarkLanZhan”

Wait don't these settings take place in ancient China or something? Why would you use the native american genocide for something like that... Wouldn't something like opium be more accurate for an ow the edge factor? (Or maybe that already exists I just don't care to look it up.)

Idk that's just so random. I don't even know if these fujos are actually chinese, or sinoboos or both and it just gives me more questions.

 

[NiKo's Deagle Miss]

Big news for rpf fans!

 

[jfkfactsDOTorg]

Wait don't these settings take place in ancient China or something? Why would you use the native american genocide for something like that... Wouldn't something like opium be more accurate for an ow the edge factor? (Or maybe that already exists I just don't care to look it up.)

bolded the answer to your own questions

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

bolded the answer to your own questions

I'm too scared to look up british colonizer x chinese colonized yaoi. Seems like something that might only exist in the deep trenches of the sinonet which I don't care enough to find out about.

 

[Chandelier]

A common argument that pops up during the yaoi vs yuri debate is that yuri artists should draw and write more of it, as if that will magically fix the self-imposed gender gap.

I am glad to see these takes getting more pushback.

Spoiler: More responses

The shipping culture in Genshin impact is heavily skewed male. The M/M fics dominate by nearly ten times that of the female ones.

Another day, another fandom uses the "just write more!" Argument. Where have I seen that before?


Another is that only straight men read yuri, so it's objectifying women and bad by default .


When women do write content for themselves, these people refuse to read it.




"People criticize yaoi too much and it isn't fair"

There's an entire video complaining about how Gen Z doesn't like yaoi.

Someone took notes:




On how women can't relate to women but can to cardboard cutout men:

Someone actually did watch it.

 

[Chandelier]

I wasn't sure where to put this, but I decided that some of it has relevance here. All of you know this ship, but what really has importance here is the "we totally respect women" schtick.

Yes, she made an entire thread on her pregnancy and how she was roleplaying as her favourite character while it was happening.

She later doubled down despite getting pushback, but not before people rushed to her defense, calling yuri fans able-bodied TERFs:

Right. What are the demographics of yaoi fans, again?

The doubling down by using the "we feel represented" argument:


"Let's not generalize" and that fandom has called the black love interest a "charcoal bitch" among other things.

The best thing to emerge from this fandom, however, is a Civil War/Reconstruction era fic, eliminating all racial animosity from said period to focus on a white man (not really, they were a pooner) while writing out those dirty blacks. Turns out, this person was black and decided to whitewash her own people's history. Oof.

Spoiler: Haiti fic come again

Why are they called racist? This might give a clue:

Context: this artist supported a fic that involving killing a black woman for her organs. Artist is actually really good, but has an abysmal attitude. She is not the only one. Another, a chopped Mexican artist named Yunarissss2, posted this:

This isn't the first time she's done this.


Someone brought receipts:

"Why are you so focused on race?"


This one really took the cake.

It's a tie between this and a mod of a zine being a shotacon:

Whitewashed art (though very pretty!) and pedophilia? No wonder these brand of fujos are reviled everywhere.

But the memes are funny, right?

That user gets big hits on pregnancy headcanons. She's a tradfujo so MASCULINE MEN AS TOPS ONLY. WE'RE A CHRISTIAN NATION.

Now, on the thread on how freaks built AO3, here were some more responses:

The head honchos of AO3 are 2/3rds Jewish. Make use of that as you will.

That is unfortunately true.


"We need to start bullying them out"
Something something about white people clinging to fandom culture as a sole culture

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

Half of this general yaoi discourse wouldn't exist if people admitted they just wanted to see white boys fuck white boys. (Or east asian, I guess.) It's funny that they never point out the elephant in the room which is that straight girls make the majority of fandoms and they'll want to see guys over girls.

Maybe this is slightly offtopic, but I guess the obsession with needing content to only have the opposite sex isn't just limited to just fujoshis.

Apparently there was a chinese gacha thread in PG but it never finished cooking.

 

[Your old Livejournal]

Half of this general yaoi discourse wouldn't exist if people admitted they just wanted to see white boys fuck white boys. (Or east asian, I guess.) It's funny that they never point out the elephant in the room which is that straight girls make the majority of fandoms and they'll want to see guys over girls.

Maybe this is slightly offtopic, but I guess the obsession with needing content to only have the opposite sex isn't just limited to just fujoshis.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kx7YAjgJ4Wo
Apparently there was a chinese gacha thread in PG but it never finished cooking.

Thing is, they'll attack you for rightfully pointing out that yaoi fandoms and sites like tumblr and AO3 are mostly populated by straight white girls/women. In yet another attempt of historical revisionism, the gendies have decided that 'queer people invented fandom and have always contributed most to it.' It’s blatantly wrong, but every survey/poll you'll see on those sites will now show that the users are some flavour of kweer (which just means idiot girls/women not wanting to admit they're as boring as the rest of us). And all that just because a decade or more ago people started claiming liking yaoi as a woman is fetishising gay men, which imo was one reason poonerism started kicking off to begin with. Still, no matter how much they try denying it, yaoi is mostly something straight women enjoy. Cry more, kweerdos!

As for the gacha stuff, it's truly baffling what Chinese incels do to get the devs of their money-grab gambling games to listen to them. And their paranoia about NTR is imo a whole other level than the crazy fujos. If you’re interested, there are several posts on r/gachagaming about such meltdowns. It's... something...

 

[Drive-by Farts]

Is this type of discourse still actually dominating the western fandom? I don’t know why certain segments of the BL fandom have a compulsive need to justify their guilty pleasure.

A quick glance at the romance section on Webtoon tells me what’s popular in BL is the same as it ever was. I haven’t been on Lezhin in a while. I’m interested in the actual publishing trends, if anyone has current knowledge of that (I’ve just been reading straight comics mostly for the past few years because of people just like the squabbling blowhards in those tweets)

 

[Ice Mountain]

In related fandom news, The Moxang Dongshu fandom had this little controversy:

I remember this. I stay far away from danmei (Chinese BL) fandom spaces because those girls are capital-O Obnoxious, but this whole kerfuffle was big enough to make its way to my carefully curated dashboard anyway. It was kinda funny because the author of the fic got the exact reaction they were fishing for by writing it: raging brown and guilty white chimpouts.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure this fic was one of the biggest things people threw around as "evidence" for that retarded End OTW Racism campaign a few years ago. For the unaware, people wanted Ao3 to implement stricter anti-bigotry rules in their ToS and hire a """diversity consultant""" onto their team. Because, you know, that's the site's biggest problem. Not the blatant pedoshit. Not the spambot comments. The stupid troll fics that make up less than 0.1% of what's posted to the site. Priorities!

 

[Chandelier]

A conversation originally meant to discuss how black characters are treated in fandom devolved into how yaoi is progressive after all. This user promptly changed her pfp after being called out. Not to be outdone, this Spaniard called this user a "black extremist".



In yaoi discourse, you'll find people bitching over which one is more progressive. Once again, the original point was how black female characters are tossed aside by fujos.

Spoiler: My yaoi is more progressive than your hetslop!

"Shipping isn't activism " say the people who treat it like activism:

"It's not heteronormative. It's just straight with extra steps."


They're right, you know. That's exactly how yaoi goes.

Anything and everything is homophobia, even when the original argument wasn't even about white queers.

"Why do you care how progressive your ships are? Just have fun!"
"LGBT people are miserable "

How did it all start? Arcane, of course. But homophobia is a bigger issue than making a black woman a cuck.



White queers hijacking discourse like it's eminent domain:

A NaruSasu shipper insists you aren't a good feminist if you keep female characters in abusive relationships. People kindly point out that she's an MLM shipper saying this.

Spoiler: It's (D)ifferent

"Why you catching strays"
"I legit don't know, bro, even though I was asking for it"


Gotta love it when they play the victim. It's not misinterpretation. It's your own fucking words.

That "so?" Is everything. They literally never get it.

"He's not abusive to anyone therefore it's fine when he's with a man over a woman"

"She's not being hypocritical " that's the literal definition of it, babe.

"You're just reducing a woman to her role"

Good response:

Round II; or, her more popular tweet. She eventually shut off replies.



An excellent point:

Spoiler: Bridge at the River Yaoi

You'll never guess what this user got busted for: hating lesbians while saying they're "too mean".




She was really struggling here:

A yaoi fan tries to defend the absurd anatomy in BL. It doesn't go as expected.

Spoiler: I fear you have not eaten

"I don't care about her story" - story of every fujo.


*Points out how men are taller than women on average*
WOW YOU THOUGHT YOU ATE

She got ONE person cheering her on:

Another points out how BL isn't good rep. Some fags jumped her.

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Trigun Stampede is another fandom infested with fujos who love making one of the male leads trans. This led to a brief spat between a Mexican non binary and other gender specials.


That fanart led to over 100 quote tweets and the artists losing their shit.

Literally how Gigi Valentine, a known Arcane artist on BlueSky, draws Viktor. Different fandom, same issue.

Spoiler: Bottom B cups

Shots are coming from inside the house. Trans artists and their allies have no one but themselves to blame.



Indeed.

"Just don't be transphobic" I don't think that Canuck cares.




They use this argument against Arcane fans who call them out, too. Funny seeing it in a different fandom with the same issues.


That's a huge problem with trans fanart: most of the time they draw just a woman. They don't even try to make them masculine, and then use the "Trans men don't owe you masculinity" as an excuse.


No objection here.

I did have a good laugh at this. You can FEEL the hatred in the original drawing.


The lesbian ship is slop but the fanon gay one isn't?

 

[DeeNaMeeTay]

The only group of people who can top the fujos with their insanity are yumeshippers/self-shippers. They drive out fujos from their fandoms with pitchforks and death threats. Nothing comes between a woman and her fictional husbando.

 

[Your old Livejournal]

The only group of people who can top the fujos with their insanity are yumeshippers/self-shippers. They drive out fujos from their fandoms with pitchforks and death threats. Nothing comes between a woman and her fictional husbando.

I once dared suggest that yume-ism (and male waifu fagging) shouldn't be encouraging because while escapism is all fine and dandy, too many people take it far, far too seriously. I've seen people absolutely lose it and whine that their life is over because their husbando exchanged a single word with a female character. You can imagine the angry replies that comment got me. That shit plus the notion that no matter how ooc a headcanon it has to be accepted have imo irreparably ruined fanfom imo.

 

[DeeNaMeeTay]

I was trying to watch Epic the Musical on YouTube, and the lady that uploaded the animatic is the stereotypical insufferable fujo to be: A poly “queer” (but male-centric) witchy thesbian activist who fantasizes about being in a polycule with two gay man who make out with each other as she watches like Zendaya in Challengers.

Totally not fetishing

At least she’s self-aware she’s a pathetic gooner who ships two people irl, but it’s still annoying.

 

[DeeNaMeeTay]

who ships two people irl

Sorry, I was wrong about this. I took “but in reality” too literally. She ships tomarry (Voldemort/Tom riddle and Harry Potter) not the actors…

 

[Chandelier]

Sorry, I was wrong about this. I took “but in reality” too literally. She ships tomarry (Voldemort/Tom riddle and Harry Potter) not the actors…

She has a BLM video on her Shorts page, and true to form, there isn't a single ship with a black man that she enjoys. BLM on the streets, 'NO FUCKING NIGGERS IN MY SLASH' in the sheets. Tale as old as time.

 

[Among Us Gaming]

Sorry, I was wrong about this. I took “but in reality” too literally. She ships tomarry (Voldemort/Tom riddle and Harry Potter) not the actors…

This lady is out here, filming herself and uploading it to yt, saying things that I wouldn't be caught dead saying anonymously on an imageboard.

 

[DerangedBehavior]

She has a BLM video on her Shorts page, and true to form, there isn't a single ship with a black man that she enjoys. BLM on the streets, 'NO FUCKING NIGGERS IN MY SLASH' in the sheets. Tale as old as time.

That's aryan, shemmycuck