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It’s either they’re turbo virgin neets or a friend group ‘polycule’ that includes a token toxic gay man, 1 troon, 2 fat queers that always talk about gay sex , 1 skinny short pasty goth poon, and a normal presenting nerd that leaves the group before it heads south. Then a few months in, the group disbands because the troon that was a cis guy starts transitioning and advancing on the lesbians, the toxic gay man spreads word around, and the group takes sides.



“Mom found the yaoi”
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LkBG_QEP4UUit’s not the original but the animated version is cute, anyways, girl that appears to be a high schooler crashes out because her mom was cleaning her room and found her hidden stash. She then is breaking down but…what do you expect girl? Since you said yaoi and yuri that you’ve hidden I assume that it’s all just gay porn and not the typical wholesome stuff. If I found that I would throw it out too because I don’t want my child’s brain to rot and have porn addiction down the line. Based mom!
That's true. I was mostly referring to the younger crowd (under late 30s) as gaining the sexless title. The over 30s are their own bag of issues, but I find most tend to either keep to their previously established online cliques (barring certain examples). It's not common for them to get into big dramas due to the whole "having a life outside the internet (albeit, shitty one)" & growing up when fujoshiing was still frowned upon and actively mocked without some tacky bullshit about "representation" being stamped on. Don't get me wrong: they're still degenerate fetishists, but at least their honest about it. The younglings tend to be the dramawhores & attention-seekers looking to wage jihad on any who dare speak ill of their precious poorly drawn, white-on-white, BL-schlick ship. The olders tend not to give a shit about canon, either, but the younger crowd is rabid over getting their faves canonized, irregardless of the original creator(s) intent.

Also, the video below was a joke (animation is kino, though). The creator is astryuuna (https://m.youtube.com/@astryuuna/videos) and she is grown woman. No Mom found the yaoi or yuri. Nothing ever changes.
 
The younglings tend to be the dramawhores & attention-seekers looking to wage jihad on any who dare speak ill of their precious poorly drawn, white-on-white, BL-schlick ship.

I do think this is a mostly harmless way for obsessive shut-ins to flirt with all the things they know (or imagine they know) happen to more outgoing people, but have zero experience with themselves. I always think of an academic spending 45 years studying drug culture without having ever rolled a joint.

No one thinks they are more ‘dangerous’ or ‘in the know’ then out of touch tourists. Which is particularly funny here considering how few communities are less precious about sex then homosexual men.
Fuck it, if a fat woman wants to know what anal feels like, she can! As the good book says; Everyone poops. In reality what these girls want is to be a naive, clean shaven, 16 yo Asian boy with ass cheeks like two ripe peaches, which is only a step away from online nerds demanding their 9/10, blond, virgin sundress mommy GF with massive milkers.

When a girl in uni had me read some of her Hannibal and Good Omens fan fiction it was, for all the elaborate ass pounding description, absolutely adorable. It had all the hallmarks of male online turbo-virgin awkwardness. Where they know everything about sex except what it actually feels like and imagine onto it a whole ocean of pathos and fulfillment no normal person thinks is there.

At least male pornography is unpretentious.
At least no one expects Milf Town 13 to mention the Darfur genocide, or to take a side on the Palestinian struggle.
 
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The grip that yaoi has over women is insane and a test study to me. Sorry if this question was asked but how come yuri fans aren't this crazy? Maybe I haven't looked into it much but aside from the "trans lesbian TIMs" who clearly have a porn addiction, I've never seen teenage boys go crazy over two girls having a close friendship. Compare that to yaoi fangirls who go crazy over two boys walking past each other. I've even seen lesbians go crazy over yaoi.

Recently there is this one lesbian that is upset because the Stanger Things finale revealed that Will was gay and liked Mike but nothing confirmed if Mike liked Will back. I don't watch Stranger Things much but question for those who do, is there any evidence to suggest that Mike had a romantic interest in Will other than "They looked at each other in a funny way?" I thought Mike was in a relationship with Eleven? What fucking hinted at it actually happening and why the fuck is a lesbian going nuts over a gay ship not being canon and wanting to see two boys kiss? Why (unless this chick is lying) would a lesbian want to see two boys kiss? That's like if I as a straight guy wanted to see two boys kiss. Why would I unless I was either secretly gay or bisexual.
 
don't watch Stranger Things much but question for those who do, is there any evidence to suggest that Mike had a romantic interest in Will other than "They looked at each other in a funny way?" I thought Mike was in a relationship with Eleven? What fucking hinted at it actually happening and why the fuck is a lesbian going nuts over a gay ship not being canon and wanting to see two boys kiss? Why (unless this chick is lying) would a lesbian want to see two boys kiss?
They're already cucking Eleven the same way they do Mel with Jayvik. Fujos really are consistent with their misogyny across fandoms.
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They think Byler will be great representation despite Netflix already having queer shows. The lesbians like yaoi and wanting women to be cucked are male-centric, that's all. They say they're not attracted to males, yet center males, their love and their bodies in everything. We call them self-hating misogynists.

I think the weirder aspect is when fujos make their own pregnancies about their gay ship. This is Levia, who got tremendously upset at being posted here after admitting she was basing her pregnancy on a trans pregnancy involving her favourite white character. This was catalogued here:

She insisted she NEVER said those things despite screenshots and archives showing otherwise. Before privating, un-privating, and then blocking black fans who called her out, she posted this:
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"Whoops I accidentally blamed you for the alleged harassment against me that you also suffered but I'm the bigger victim in this"

People promptly hugboxed her after she was posted here.
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She blamed the harassment on Meljay shippers when they had nothing to do with her being posted here, but blaming blacks is easy. This entire thing started because of Jayviks starting shit in the fandom and my screenshots documenting it. They legitimately cared more about being made fun of than my use of racial and transphobic slurs, something black fans noticed.

Take a guess what her favourite ship is:
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"The things said about me WEREN'T TRUE!!""
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What is a woman? Apparently we know exactly what it is because it means weaponizing it to handwave away the stupid shit she said. She did not heed her own advice and the ITS NAWT TRUUU argument is null because she proudly said this:
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Stop treating your pregnancy like it's fucking Omegaverse, retards. This is why you're being mocked.

She will not be cowed by le evil Kiwis, but will continue talking about her pregnancy and projecting it on the fictional MALE character she wants trans:
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"You're pieces of shit towards actual human beings" - Actual human beings are headcanoning their own pregnancy on fictional characters they think are pooners, Jan
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Here is her Instagram. She has over 40k followers there due to her multi fandom art.
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The grip that yaoi has over women is insane and a test study to me. Sorry if this question was asked but how come yuri fans aren't this crazy? Maybe I haven't looked into it much but aside from the "trans lesbian TIMs" who clearly have a porn addiction, I've never seen teenage boys go crazy over two girls having a close friendship. Compare that to yaoi fangirls who go crazy over two boys walking past each other. I've even seen lesbians go crazy over yaoi.

[...]why the fuck is a lesbian going nuts over a gay ship not being canon and wanting to see two boys kiss? Why (unless this chick is lying) would a lesbian want to see two boys kiss? That's like if I as a straight guy wanted to see two boys kiss. Why would I unless I was either secretly gay or bisexual.
It's as simple, yet as complex, as "men and women are wired differently," even the horny and crazy ones.

Gay M/M porn for women is plot and emotion-heavy. Not that it's perfect and pure and uwu, but that they don't usually get off to just dick-in-butt; there's gotta be a story about how the dick got in that butt, and maybe they have more history, like they're huge academic rivals but all that emotion finally boiled over, but only after a few chapters of thinking about it really hard and being angry at the other guy for being so hot and also so good at academics.

This desire for a plot arc is what causes "shipping." A book about two dudes facing incredible odds together and becoming as close as brothers will have some women extrapolating the "obvious" five chapters that would have followed the end of the book that explain how those two dudes ended up kissing and fucking and living together forever.


F/F porn for men is sex, or near-sex, itself. When a man starts posting cute lesbian slice-of-life comics, troonout incoming. (I'm sure there's more than this, but I am a woman who used to be a girl, so this is not a mindset with which I'm fully familiar.)

Here is a helpful meme about yaoi, drawn by a theyfab:

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Note that this theyfab draws "gay man yaoi," i.e. the TF2 mercenaries and most recently the cardinals from Conclave fucking. This does not disprove the rule nor mean that transmen are men: this just means that there are exceptions and also that taking exogenous sex hormones can mess with you psychologically.
 
my normie friend just told me she finished the final episode of heated rivalry and highly recommended it. I’m not gonna watch it, but I wanna know if u kiwi’s have. Is it actually good or just the run of the mill BL show glazed for ‘representation’?
 
my normie friend just told me she finished the final episode of heated rivalry and highly recommended it. I’m not gonna watch it, but I wanna know if u kiwi’s have. Is it actually good or just the run of the mill BL show glazed for ‘representation’?
No, it's probably the same old same old they're always obsessed with anyway.

I can't stress enough that anything like that will be bottom of the barrel schlock for female sensibilities. Men regardless of orientation don't usually get into that stuff at all. It's like Hallmark Christmas movies. The same shit is in every single one. Hell, even the het romances with the same tropes and atmosphere hit all the same benchmarks.

Unless you like weird gay shit for women.
 
my normie friend just told me she finished the final episode of heated rivalry and highly recommended it. I’m not gonna watch it, but I wanna know if u kiwi’s have. Is it actually good or just the run of the mill BL show glazed for ‘representation’?
Judging by the fandom and their gifsets, it’s absolute glaze on glaze for a wattpad-tier story that’s no build-up and all instant gratification. They’re fuckbuddies for the majority of the season before they have a decent conversation about feelings that wrap it up with a cheap feel-good bow.
 
Judging by the fandom and their gifsets, it’s absolute glaze on glaze for a wattpad-tier story that’s no build-up and all instant gratification. They’re fuckbuddies for the majority of the season before they have a decent conversation about feelings that wrap it up with a cheap feel-good bow.
The creator of the show has admitted it's female fantasy while coating it in open misogyny. The solution to female problems and dehumanization is to remove them entirely. Very Final Solution-like.
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- Women are exposed to sexual violence from males
- they feel safer with two males because males treat each other like full human beings and are allowed to be "emotionally vulnerable" without resorting to violence
- try to coach it as "women's fantasy" and that it's actually feminist because Rachel Reid is a woman
- gay sex is apparently 100% consensual all the time and doesn't allow violence
- women don't get treated with respect so let's remove them entirely

It's the same shit you hear with yaoi.
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"Queer women love this show because of solidarity" while none of these fujos will read WLW.
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Just male-centric women abound:
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This one wonders why the same fervor isn't paid to lesbian stories. People come right out and admit that women-centric stories make them "uncomfortable."
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"wlw would be more involving" so you don't see women as human beings worthy of equal respect.
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Fighting misogyny by removing women entirely in favor of males is how we defeat the patriarchy.
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"Yeah homophobia exists in both but I prefer males because I only see males as fully human"
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"You feel safe when it's just two men"
Better not look up those domestic violence rates.
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"You're a misogynist if you only center males" - yes, actually.
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Some responses:
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It legit makes me MATI when male-centric women think removing women entirely is a form of feminism. You just hate women, and the admission female-centric stories STILL don't interest you is internalized misogyny.
 
Women are exposed to sexual violence from males
- they feel safer with two males because males treat each other like full human beings and are allowed to be "emotionally vulnerable" without resorting to violence
- try to coach it as "women's fantasy" and that it's actually feminist because Rachel Reid is a woman
- gay sex is apparently 100% consensual all the time and doesn't allow violence
- women don't get treated with respect so let's remove them entirely
What fucking relationships have these women been looking at to where they think every straight (and non trans) relationship is nothing but violent, and a power dynamic? Even the most toxic straight couples I can think of don't have any violence or power dynamic in it. Its just the couple arguing a lot. This to me is just proving that most fujos (Especially the ones who troon out into TIFs) have experienced sexual trauma if they genuinely believe that straight couples in media are all "one sided".
 
You just hate women, and the admission female-centric stories STILL don't interest you is internalized misogyny.
I dunno, I think most yaoi is really just about women that happen to have male bodies. 99% of the yaoi I've ever seen written by these women contain characters that do not act, speak, or think like men.

On an unrelated note, I wonder how fujoshis would react if they knew how homoerotic lockerooms and most blue collar workplaces tend to be.
 
It's not just that they like ignoring women entirely. It's the, dare I say it, active misogyny. These girls actively dislike being women and other women. They're obsessed with depicting female characters being passed over, being seen as more vapid/silly/less interesting than men, and like when they're betrayed in relationships for a man.

From the female character's perspective this is actively abusive, she's being deprioritized by a significant other, made fun of, and cheated on. But fujos get a sick satisfaction out of it. They sometimes try to paint her as a "mean girl" character that deserves it. She's just there as a punching bag. It's all really gross.

Even in that new show apparently they have girlfriends but are doing stuff with each other. There is a constant obsession in a lot of this shit with stuff like that.
 
I've even seen lesbians go crazy over yaoi.
They are not lesbians, they just deluded themselves into believing all cis men are violent and dangerous and all straight relationship are inequal and opressing to women, that's why they pretend to be gay. But you can't convince me that women who only talk and think about their yaoi and hot guys 24/7 are genuinely into other women. Sadly their minds are irreparably plagued with what 4th wave of feminism has been sowing into our society for years and years now and they'd rather poon out than to admit regular men are just people with just the same flaws and qualities as them.
 
That gay hockey show got an article in A&N and I'm not disappointed that it was brought up here ahead of the curve. Seeing such a discourse surrounding it is insane, though, the showrunners either had to have known this would happen (masochistic choice) or they're somehow oblivious to it hence why it got renewed. The actors better be hiring security while they still can.

In the same breath, there's Ripley from Alien, Uma Thurman from Kill Bill,
I honestly don't remember Elizabeth Swan's character to know if there's more to her than being an early girlboss example, but as for Ripley and the Bride (and Sarah Connor), they're action girls in their own right, but you just know deep down feminists (and yaoi fangirls if they have a presence in those fandoms) hate them because their motivations/greatest character moment(s) boil down to aspects of motherhood. They've remained in the pop culture conscious long enough to become sacred cows so they can't come out and say they're "secretly misogynist" for embodying the very thing that makes women women, but it's very likely these people willingly ignore them and try to avoid talking about them because they bust open their strawman arguments.
 
It's not just that they like ignoring women entirely. It's the, dare I say it, active misogyny. These girls actively dislike being women and other women. They're obsessed with depicting female characters being passed over, being seen as more vapid/silly/less interesting than men, and like when they're betrayed in relationships for a man.
At the risk of powerleveling I knew a woman who was exactly like this. She was straight, married to a man and somewhere in her 30s. I don't really have a problem with yaoi fans just because they have that hobby but she was just a misogynist.

She enjoys yaoi because "men just have a more pure relationship women can't comprehend" and hated lesbians/female friendships in general because "only a man can put up with a woman". She also disliked bossy or mean female characters because they reminded her of her mom, make of that what you will.
 
She enjoys yaoi because "men just have a more pure relationship women can't comprehend"
Men being such bros that they will lay down their life for their friends is pure, yes, this is something that has been known since the beginning of time. Laying down with each other in buggery isn't.
 
I watched Heated Rivalry last night - at least, the first episode. To spare you all the broiling pot of autism I call my mind, I won't elaborate too deeply upon my thoughts regarding it, but my main takeaway was that I do not understand where all of this talk about the actors' chemistry is coming from. It was like watching two randomized townies from The Sims 3 hump each other like particularly smooth-brained cavemen. Their banter was weak and the cinematography did all of the work of establishing "lust" because it just kept panning over their hairy legs and hairless chests.

HR's zeitgeist reminds me of the hubbub around Our Flag Means Death back when it was airing, which was lauded for the performances by Taika Waititi and Rhys Darby as the leading gay couple. Waititi and Darby are friends off-set, and you could feel how kissing one another was like kissing a wet toad - a total "kissing your bro for the dare" kind of kiss, nothing supercharged with passion or romance. And yet their stiff and incompatible affair, the central plot of the show, was so impactful that OFMD's cancelation after season 2 had fans buying ad space in the Times Square to promote saving the show. (Thank God it didn't manifest season 3; could you imagine your average fandom ghoul if such bullying tactics worked?)

I watched another goonjoshi classic a while back after I'd read the book - if anyone's familiar, it was Red, White and Royal Blue. A similarly asinine yet horny read, the film shared the same issues with HR and OFMD in which its lead actors were awful at their jobs and managed to be even worse at pretending they didn't despise grinding against one another. And yet people, yet again, praised them for their performances even though it was like watching a hostage situation.

I'm starting to become convinced that chronic SSRI use, autism and porn are destroying your average fujo's ability to recognize actual sexual chemistry, especially between actors. It would certainly explain why male/male romances - whether original or derived from fandom - are so plain and lacking. Imagine becoming a gooner over middling slop; it's like the cognitive equivalent of becoming gigantically fat from eating frozen mashed potatoes and corn chips. If you're going to indulge in your vices, at least do it on something decent, for God's sake. You make hedonists look bad!
 
i'm not watching anything that sounds like it came from booktok. what makes heated rivalry any better than those repackaged harry styles self-insert fics-turned-movies? middling common denominator dogshit.
 
not just that they like ignoring women entirely. It's the, dare I say it, active misogyny. These girls actively dislike being women and other women. They're obsessed with depicting female characters being passed over, being seen as more vapid/silly/less interesting than men, and like when they're betrayed in relationships for a man.
Fujos love doing that Millennial Woes tweet of pretending they don't understand things so dialogue with them is virtually impossible. This was showcased in this now deleted tweet that snagged 20k likes:
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Reducing gendered expectations by... transferring them to feminine men or the "omegas". Note the term "self comparison." They don't like other women because women are competitors; they don't like misogyny so they'll remove women from the narrative entirely to focus on their oppressors. They pin the blame on women and female bodies for the violence males enact against them before insisting no violence exists between two men.
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"There is no direct reinforcement of female social expectations" while, again, transferring that to the one they designate as the "woman."
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Yes, people have written bachelor's thesis on how yaoi is feminist.

"I'm a sex repulsed asexual and female characters trigger me. That's why I center male sexuality because I'm attracted to them and don't get triggered." No, you hate them because you're a self-hating misogynist and prioritize males.
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I saw a lot of great responses calling this out for what it was: misogyny. These are women admitting to disliking female characters and stories because it "offends" them, while supporting and writing dead dove content. This leads me to ground zero of this discourse:
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This user has made similar tweets on how ao3 was founded as a place for Sam/Dean (Wincest) shippers. What they won't tell you is that they ban "Gacha for Gaza" events because the admins are all Zionist.
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"This is just Puritanism!" You're right. Puritans love raping kids, and you make it prettier.

A user admits one of the admins was a Wincest shipper, which protects her from her white/Jewish/Zionist privilege.
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Poor lad got jumped for the "public posts, public comments" mantra. Pro free speech until someone says their Omegaverse sounds like a traditional conservative race play with Erika Kirk narrating it.
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White queers and gender specials clinging to a website owned by Jews as a bastion of free speech is really something. Pro free speech until a black queer says something, them they're pulling out the white hood.

Do you remember Levia, the German who got upset because I posted about her fujo pregnancy? She also posted her baby's ultrasound.
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Admitting she's naming her kid not for a deceased uncle but for a fictional character is peak fucking fujo:
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"I'm not comparing my pregnancy to a fictional character I headcanon as a pooner. You're just lying."
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(Levia then insisted the things I posted "weren't true" forgetting I have archives for every single tweet.)

Ivy there also wanted people to stop seeing pooner relationships with men as "het coded." She then posted her Sims getting pregnant, which is pretty fucking het-coded.
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And, since @Magic Pickle brought it up, she's a RWRB fan, too.
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When some Jayvik fans notice why it's seemingly only Viktor getting pregnant, it's literal EDtwt minors posting about vomit in a bucket and calling other people fat bitches nodding in agreement.
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"It's not that serious" meanwhile monoshipper fujos are roleplaying as pedophiles. I think it's pretty damn serious.

And I wasn't joking about the EDtwt thing.
Talking about white people being stinky while dreaming about a white man getting pregnant is certainly a choice. Shot:
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Chaser:
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Oh, that's sounds awfully fatphobic for someone crying about ableism.
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Given that I caused a lot of drama on Arcanetwt for posting what Jayvik fujos were saying openly, I figured I'd just keep on posting it so others can see how progshit fujos are actual backstabbing racists.

Trying to talk like a jigaboo while retweeting a woman who pretended to be black to shit on a black woman is the economic grid meme but place in a rock tumbler.
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A Brazilian who promoted the fake screenshots that rocked Arcanetwt back in July-August wanted to gather her fellow fujos to take down a fan poll for asking for Lovestruck skins for Meljay.
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"Except that one"

Reminder Brazil was the last country in the Americas to outlaw slavery. That heated rivalry (ha!) against Africans never went away.
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Meltwt knew about my posts for months and knew it was best not to give attention. Jayviks saw them, viewed them as a personal threat, and blamed black fans vs the shit they were openly saying. They were angrier at that than Hexhomos - also a half black Brazilian who resents her dark chocolate side - calling a black character "Jeff Bezos."


To bring this back to fujo arguments, in another deleted tweet, a lesbian asked the "now what?" Argument after she admitted she liked yaoi more. These were the responses.
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You're just a male-centric Lesbian who might not actually be attracted to women, congrats
 
You're just a male-centric Lesbian who might not actually be attracted to women, congrats
The extreme complexes and neurosis of fujos honestly need to be studied. Not in the underwater basket weaving way but "bitch you actually need help" way.

I really shouldn't be surprised there is cross over with EDs either.
 
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