🤡 Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[do ut des]

criminal and civil law, as well as multiple other sub specialities

This alone is enough to proof how delusional destiny is, Ive got a law degree and even though i spent 5 years of my life studying all relevent areas of law, I (and all other lawyers) only have expertise in the field of law that they specialize in. With everything else I only know the basics and Ive most likely even forgotten half of those.

Destiny, it takes years of studying and practice to be good at one specialised area of law, 2 drugfueled evenings (where you most likely solicit CSAM at the same time) arent enough retard. Maybe instead of writing the outlines for your lawyers you should let them do their job.

 

[Latrell Sprewell]

Took the weekend off, just read through Destiny's reply on his MTD. I noticed he didn't have anything to say about Rose's age or why she's no longer the one living in Europe. Curious!

Anyway, here are a few clips from his October 10th stream that I want to make sure get noticed, because he talks more about what he had to do to prepare his evidence in the MTD.

Further acknowledgment of using the tool Redact, also says that when the leaks originally happened he was deleting videos manually.

https://youtu.be/jIDE816M_XU?t=5061

Again mentioning using Redact, from the sounds of it he deleted large swaths of his messages with that tool then used Discord Chat exporter to capture Rose's side, then stitched them together. Mentions how he was struggling with making sense of timezones and Daylight Savings Time. Even acknowledges that he could technically alter the exported Discord data.

"But if you think I'm going to tamper with evidence, I could just tamper with the exports from Discord as well."

https://youtu.be/jIDE816M_XU?t=7853

It needs to be emphasized more, the evidence he presented in his MTD is a chat log he carved up with various tools then put back together like it were the puzzle box from the movie Hellraiser, so he could unlock all the secrets of his love of feet and cum and butt plugs. I don't think he's been forthcoming on the fact he used Redact as part of his preservation practices. He certainly hasn't mentioned it in any of these public filings. The closest we get to a mention is this earlier filing from May where Brettler makes passing mention of JSON files, apparently Redact will produce JSON output among other things. Of course when Destiny's talking about Redact, he never mentions JSON files, only CSV's.


Ignoring the obvious conflict of interest in Destiny collating evidence only he has access to, for use to his benefit, what are the chances he just fucked up in this reconstruction? He spent two days struggling to make sense of timezone differences, how can he be assured he got everything else correct?

Can he testify to how much information Redact captures from Discord? Or how he can be confident the translation from Discord to Redact to HTML elements that flow seamlessly in a Discord Chat Exporter log carried over all information accurately? How about the way in which he originally exported Rose's chatlogs? Discord Chat Exporter doesn't just do a lump sum export, you can specify it to export certain date/time ranges. You can also specify what locale it uses when displaying dates, which affects the date format displayed! He's already stitching together at least two files, why not a third or a fourth?

"But if you think I'm going to tamper with evidence, I could just tamper with the exports from Discord as well."

And one interesting admission on who might have the original files:

https://youtu.be/jIDE816M_XU?t=8146

 

[siaapa]

For the cum gremlin:

in U.S. civil courts, even unaltered evidence can be discredited or excluded if:

• Its chain of custody is broken,
• The preservation is suspicious or undocumented, or
• It appears to be intentionally mishandled or incompletely preserved.

You don’t need proof of tampering — serious questions about how the evidence was kept can be enough.

 

[Potentially Criminal]

For the cum gremlin:

in U.S. civil courts, even unaltered evidence can be discredited or excluded if:

• Its chain of custody is broken,
• The preservation is suspicious or undocumented, or
• It appears to be intentionally mishandled or incompletely preserved.

You don’t need proof of tampering — serious questions about how the evidence was kept can be enough.

I await the stream where he tries to cram and comprehend Rule 401 and 403

 

[jimmybags]

I await the stream where he tries to cram and comprehend Rule 401 and 403

He’s too busy comprehending rule 34.

 

[gernig]

Tiny compares Hasan & his community to MAGA x

 

[Lord of the Pajeets]

Tiny compares Hasan & his community to MAGA x
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Replace Hasan/MAGA with Destiny/DGG and its exactly the same. He's simply describing how a cult works.

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

Tiny compares Hasan & his community to MAGA x
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So Tiny would be Ali Ackbar?

 

[Code Cave]

"But if you think I'm going to tamper with evidence, I could just tamper with the exports from Discord as well."

Something else that stood out to me was him repeatedly mentioning Discord only keeping logs for 30 days. I think Pxie's team are trying to lay the groundwork with their very qualified (and handsome!) expert witness that his logs are unreliable and he fucks with them, so they can then try and apply that to the Abby stuff and say that he's edited or deleted the part when he sent her the Pxie video.

Also, since he's leaning into the "KF are all just unhinged retards" line again to distract from sexting/soliciting a minor, a reminder that he called @StrangerMe posting about his Lauren Southern affair (which is very real btw) "fan fiction"

"omegalul" indeed!

 

[Pentamidine]

What is even the chance the case gets dismissed at this point? With the continuous distribution argument and Abby's testimony on receiving the video, I thought they had enough to get past dismissal/summary judgement.

It's not getting dismissed and Destiny is coping. He's going to act shocked when his motion to dismiss is denied, and someone who is UNHINGED and INSANE will be to blame. Maybe not the Judge directly, maybe he'll just accuse Pxie's expert and her lawyers of lying and tricking the judge.

But he's going to be found not-liable, assuming he doesn't settle. AbbyMC can't demonstrate (beyond her testimony) that Destiny sent her the vids after the effective date of the law, and he sent the vids to Rose before the effective date of the law. That's basically indisputable based on Solo's leaked logs. Yes, they're in Euro time format. Because Solo was in Europe and he's the one that took the screenshots. Unless you guys think that the screenshots are from the same day in adjacent months, rather than being adjacent days in the same month. Which would be retarded to believe.

So he's going to beat that, he's not going to get charged for CP by the feds, and him/his fans will be able to point to those as "proof" that he's "innocent". And it's going to work.

Right now, there are like 9 separate videos of Hasan forcing his dog to stay in her cot for the whole day and scolding/zapping her when she tries to move, and you might THINK it's a big scandal but his audience is believing his (mutually exclusive and contradictory) explanations, and he's going to continue getting puff pieces in newspapers and magazines and in a month or so it will be as if nothing happened at all.

Destiny MIGHT settle. I don't think so, though. The reason to settle would be to avoid discovery* - but Destiny's already shown he's willing to just lie, fabricate/remove evidence, and generally not comply with discovery. So anything he wouldn't want to get out, he just won't produce. So he has no reason to settle. BUT, if he were to settle, it would include him not having to admit to any wrongdoing, so he'd just tell his audience that he settled it because it was expensive and a nuisance but he's actually innocent, and they'd believe it.

* If your response is "he'd settle because it's expensive" you are a retard. Either you believe he was making a cool million a year off of Youtube (in which case he wouldn't be sweating the lawsuit costs), or you believe he wasn't (in which case he hasn't lost much revenue and wouldn't be sweating the lawsuit costs).

 

[Code Cave]

So he's going to beat that, he's not going to get charged for CP by the feds, and him/his fans will be able to point to those as "proof" that he's "innocent". And it's going to work.

Some people are going to sperg out at you but this is almost definitely what's going to happen. He would've had a much harder time with the case if Abby or Stasia (or any other victims, I'm sure there may be more!) joined the case. Those videos were 100% sent within the CARDII date range, but for some reason they didn't join and now Pxie is probably fucked. He also sent Melina's videos without her consent to a minor but Pxie is having to go to the fucking Hague to get her to talk about it (while the Hague are at it, they should prosecute Melina for her many crimes, which are essentially equal to war crimes).

 

[kendoubleyou]

So he's going to beat that, he's not going to get charged for CP by the feds, and him/his fans will be able to point to those as "proof" that he's "innocent". And it's going to work.

This is the one thing I really doubt. Especially now that it's (Rose being a minor) been included in court proceedings. I just don't see how it can be ignored at this point. Especially since people in power would want an easy W with it.

Why would Florida prosecutors just pretend it didn't happen? What motive would they have?

 

[siaapa]

Right now, there are like 9 separate videos of Hasan forcing his dog to stay in her cot for the whole day and scolding/zapping her when she tries to move, and you might THINK it's a big scandal but his audience is believing his (mutually exclusive and contradictory) explanations, and he's going to continue getting puff pieces in newspapers and magazines and in a month or so it will be as if nothing happened at all.

There’s a big gap between the controversies involving Hasan and Destiny. The dog thing won’t do jack shit it’s not a big enough controversy. Most people I argue with admit they don’t actually believe it’s abuse; they just jump on Hasan because he lied and they want to troll or smear him more than anything. Hasan didn’t even lose viewers compared to Destiny.Hasan is an asset for the DNC because they can use him to bring disenchanted young people into the party through figures like Bernie and AOC, who are heavily promoted. Destiny, on the other hand, is a liability. He’ll never have the platform the DNC gives Hasan since they want to appear more populist, and Destiny’s controversies are just worse PR and his political optic of statut quo neoliberalism soft progressism is just not appealing for the moment we are in + that he is an unpolished public figure unlike Hasan(swear every two words,sound crazy,to abrasive,immature).You could colloquially call him “functionally a pedo,” and that’s bad optics for the DNC — their whole base calls Trump a pedo over the Epstein stuff, so it’s counterintuitive if the guy they promote also has a history of being involved with teenagers. The mainstream will never cover Destiny positively; even CNN frames him as a controversial figure. It’s over for him.

Destiny MIGHT settle. I don't think so, though. The reason to settle would be to avoid discovery

Destiny want to solve it at the stage of summary judgement after discovery, if Destiny wanted to protect his reputation he will have settled to avoid discovery he dont. He dont settle because he is arrogant and do bad decisions like the rest of his life like taking that Pier Morgan interview.

Youtube (in which case he wouldn't be sweating the lawsuit costs)

Unless Destiyn lie somebody already prove it was close to that.

Also the idea that his dismissal and sumamry judgment will pass is extremly unlikely if you go look at some stats, in intentional tort case the sumamry judment is grant in 10% of case for the defendant, dismissal is less. So he will settle most likely.

 

[I HATE THE ANTICHRIST!]

But he's going to be found not-liable, assuming he doesn't settle. AbbyMC can't demonstrate (beyond her testimony) that Destiny sent her the vids after the effective date of the law

But that's why they are also trying to play the "continuous disclosure" angle. Specifically they lately pointed out that files have been hosted on the discord and anyone with a link could access it at any time(which is no longer the case) not unlike uploading it to youtube as an unlisted video and giving someone the link to do whatever they want with it. No one would argue "Your honor he uploaded this video before the law came into the effect so it's all good" when he made no efforts to get rid of it once it became a problem.

I don't think the chance to succeed is huge unless they have some damning info they haven't showed yet but I also wouldn't be 100% sure he is going to win.

Most people I argue with admit they don’t actually believe it’s abuse; they just jump on Hasan because he lied and they want to troll or smear him more than anything.

Sorry but you are talking out of your ass now.
Regardless of whenever or not Hasan was using a shock collar he is 100% abusing the dog by making it sit in place for hours on end(his words) lashing out at it the millisecond the dog stands up. What if the dog wanted to drink some water and he stops it from moving for another 2 hours? It absolutely counts as abuse.

 

[Mechaet]

But he's going to be found not-liable, assuming he doesn't settle. AbbyMC can't demonstrate (beyond her testimony) that Destiny sent her the vids after the effective date of the law

This is true, however:
If it IS her testimony vs his, how much weight do you think his testimony has, considering he's lied about the evidence he's provided to the court?

I wouldn't be so fast to rule her out as a factor.

 

[siaapa]

But that's why they are also trying to play the "continuous disclosure" angle. Specifically they lately pointed out that files have been hosted on the discord and anyone with a link could access it at any time(which is no longer the case) not unlike uploading it to youtube as an unlisted video and giving someone the link to do whatever they want with it. No one would argue "Your honor he uploaded this video before the law came into the effect so it's all good" when he made no efforts to get rid of it once it became a problem.

I don't think the chance to succeed is huge unless they have some damning info they haven't showed yet but I also wouldn't be 100% sure he is going to win.


Sorry but you are talking out of your ass now.
Regardless of whenever or not Hasan was using a shock collar he is 100% abusing the dog by making it sit in place for hours on end(his words) lashing out at it the millisecond the dog stands up. What if the dog wanted to drink some water and he stops it from moving for another 2 hours? It absolutely counts as abuse.

Because you’d have to consider over a thousand other things as abuse, we don’t know if the dog does activities outside of the hours he streams (he claims she does). Also, in most of his streams, there are moments where Kaya isn’t on the bed for hours. The idea that a dog not drinking water for four hours counts as abuse is ridiculous, because if you go hike or climb a mountain with your dog for four hours without giving it a drink, that should be considered abuse either. Sorry I dont think that the right wing community attacking Hasan on it are more woke on animal right that wokists themself, I dont watch the guys but i wont be totally uncharitale to him either I just view him as a tool but the Mother Teresing is just retarded. That discussion is outside of destiny thought nobody give a shit what I think personally. I dont even think Hasan tried to potray himself as a good advocate on animal right either.

 

[Madone]

AbbyMC can't demonstrate (beyond her testimony) that Destiny sent her the vids after the effective date of the law

Because he deleted the logs, and has instead provided logs which can’t be trusted.

The jury will be able to draw negative inferences from this.

Remember, this isn’t a criminal trial. It’s 50% + 1.

In other words, is it more likely that Destiny sent the sextape to AbbyMC, or is it more likely that she either a) randomly landed on Pxie here or b) snooped around his computer, found this video and decided to randomly lie about it.

Objectively, the answer is obvious.

This is a jury that will have heard all of the Rose stuff. It’s obviously more likely that he sent it based on this screenshot alone.

Bretler might be able to destroy AbbyMC’s credibility enough to make Destiny’s snooping conspiracy more believable than a sharing in 2023, but that’s still a hard task. That combined with negative inferences gives Pxie a solid chance.

 

[Nelson]

Because you’d have to consider over a thousand other things as abuse, we don’t know if the dog does activities outside of the hours he streams (he claims she does). Also, in most of his streams, there are moments where Kaya isn’t on the bed for hours. The idea that a dog not drinking water for four hours counts as abuse is ridiculous,

Most people at a bare minimum find shock collars a bit inhumane even when used for the correct things, ie making sure a dog stops jumping on people, barking at them, biting ect.. Hasan's literally using it just to make sure his dog sits in the same spot as a prop for the 10 hours or so he streams every day, it's definitely a form of animal abuse. Those things fucking hurt like crazy and most people agree should only be used when the dog has dangerous or incredibly problematic behaviour.

I don't get the defense force out for Hasan here, the guys a piece of shit regardless of if Destiny is a monster magnitudes worse than him.

 

[siaapa]

I disagree most train their dog to sleep on the same place and he isnt streaming 10 hours, kaya is on the stream like for 4 hours, its not that I am defending but the critic and the standart for abused is retarded a bit honestly, also the collar arent designed to hurt but they cause distress. I wont start debating anyone anti-hasan here it isnt the place., I shouldnt gave my opinion honestly lol.

 

[cmzng]

The Hasan dog shit is basically his entire defense when his motion gets denied. He’ll cry Hasan lives consequence free frolicking with pokimane while there is live video evidence of his abuse, meanwhile Steven is being extorted and dragged through a trial off of zero evidence. It’s the simplest deflection possible for slop loving DGGers to not redirect any criticism towards Destiny when things go to discovery.

Im pretty 50/50 on the judge accepting continuous disclosure of the discord pxie video since Destiny deleted it so late it may qualify given solo accessed it and the access logs to the messages Steven deleted are potentially still with discord to use as proof of it being downloaded post CARDII. But if Abby also got the video in some way that paints Destiny as the only culpable person, that should tip liability enough towards Destiny imo. If Abby got it in some round about bullshit way like through peach or somebody else in the BPDverse… not so much. I’m much more pessimistic about the damages and how well pxies case looks on the emotional distress side. Like if there is any area Andy B should be making his money, it’s shutting down sob stories to the jury.