US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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From what I understand Dems love illegals, Republicans do not.
Republicans want to pass something that essentially wipes their hands of paying for illegals and Dems would rather burn it all down than let that happen.
Not remotely what this is about. The sticking point is primarily ACA tax credits which are used to keep health insurance premiums down for people that don't have insurance through their employer. The tax credits are set to expire at the end of the year, which will dramatically inflate the premiums many Americans pay for insurance. It should be noted that the tax credits are extremely popular, even among Republicans. It has nothing to do with illegals or anything else whatsoever.
It's an empty threat. Trump has already been RIFing people. A shutdown doesn't give him any more or less authority to fire people. Not to mention that we already saw how many of the thousands of DOGE layoffs have already been hired back. Most of the people that get shitcanned will either be hired back or will need to be replaced.
 
If you hyphenate yourself XXX- American. You need to leave, or STFU and assimilate. Nothing you say will ever matter to me.

You mean like the Jews who maintain dual citizenship and lobby our politicians?

I do not consider non-citizens "the people" and they deserve none of the rights therein. You want to write a new amendment go for it.

Nigger that's not the point. The problem is the government attacking and revoking green cards for protesting against one specific foreign government.

Never forget Islam is a cult "religion" made up by a pedo polygamist who married a SIX year old child and raped her when she was only NINE YEARS OLD! They are simply incompatible with the Western world.

Wait until you read the Talmud. It also wasn't just "muh Muslims" getting deported for this this genius.
 
They literally actually thought negro crime is a racist myth.
Just like their Hollywood movies that form their perception of reality where black people in slums and ghettos live in peaceful harmony with each other, and evil whitey comes in to ruin it because he can because he hates black people and probably owns a Confederate battle flag. Literally just a black version of noble savage.
 
You mean like the Jews who maintain dual citizenship and lobby our politicians?
I'll answer for him, yes. Absolutely. I am completely Teddy pilled on this question. Hyphenated Americans aren't.
Just like their Hollywood movies that form their perception of reality where black people in slums and ghettos live in peaceful harmony with each other, and evil whitey comes in to ruin it because he can because he hates black people and probably owns a Confederate battle flag. Literally just a black version of noble savage.
Statistically speaking proximity to blacks breeds anti black racism. Most of the politicians which advocate for blacks don't actually spend any time around them. If they did, they would not be so inclined.
 
Hegseth: “No more beards or long hair, We don’t have a military full of Nordic pagans.” x
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I give Odin Patelsson credit for trying, I really do his heart is in the right place. But I just find it hilarious that his Norse larping was so cringy, out of place, and behind the times that he single handedly killed a decade old ongoing meme himself. I always thought it sounded retarded, but I guess Joe boomer realized that if it's filtered all the way down to him by now, it was played out.
 
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"Kudlow asked about how many federal bureaucrats could be fired under a shutdown and mentioned 300,000."
Oh no Br'ar Bear. Don't toss me in that briar patch! Anything but that!

No, literally during a government shutdown the only things that close are federal parks and museums, and they also pause grants. Everything else is funded, social security, section 8, medicare, medicaid, food stamps all stays funded. Police, military etc. Nothing happens. We had a shutdown during Trump's first term and nobody even noticed or remembers because NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS.
A lot of this comes down to HOW LONG the shutdown lasts.

So lets start first: This isn't a "shut down" this is a spending freeze, but no one wants to call it a spending freeze because then normie brains start cooking.
The US runs at deficit spending. There is not enough money to fund the government vs collected tax returns. So the government cannot cut new checks, and will likely stop/delay payment on anything not already in the mail to conserve funds as just in case. (Hence National parks and federal museums closing).
Additionally some monies via monthly/quarterly taxes arrive.

But anything already funded, or funded via separate bills continues on as normal until their budgets are exhausted. That is, next year.

Lots of programs have money set asside months or years ahead. Things like Social Security/Medicar-aid, the military and military procurement (these are funded via separate budgetary bills as well). The federal pay cycle is bi-monthly, so if the "shutdown" is less than two weeks, literally nothing happens other than maybe office supply orders are delayed.

Additionally, a number of contractors and suppliers will often operate "on credit" on the expectation the government will cut them a check when all is said and done.

The longer the shutdown goes on, the more concerning things get. During the big slapfight at the end of PurpaDrank's reign, things got very dicey due to how long it ran as they had to issue furloughs and the first rolled around and they weren't allowed to cut checks yet.

90% of the EPA getting furloughed, what does that even do? What does the EPA do exactly, other than suggest policy? They have 20,000 people there? Is that like, a lot?
That is a lot.
EPA does more than set policy, they do research and inspections. I wish they'd focus more on the inspections and less on the policy pushing.


I've got in-laws in CBP. I don't talk to them z but I like them. Does this impact them in any substantive way? They'd be cracking skulls on the border ❤️
Depends on how long it lasts.

Secretary Hegseth has signed eleven NEW memos:
All.... all this shit makes sense. Except the grooming standards and CBNR equipment that's bullshit. But I really appreciate the "Yeah we're going to let POGs skate on some shit that matters less. They can be nasty if they want. But if you are on the front you have the same standards man or woman"
No unending kangaroo courts, confidential tracking of complaints to see who is just screaming rape to get their way.

I am a bit worried on relaxing the frequency of cybersecurity training. Some people are real fucking dumb and need to be reminded over and over.
I agree with you on principal, but Federal Government Cyber Security Training is fucking worthless. Its the same fucking hour long video every year/twice a year. I'd argue it reduces readiness because it like all the other worthless training just teaches you to shut down your brain to the bare minimum and ignore everything.

What would be better would be more engaging training, less frequently, but with higher standards. And Ideally the option to test out and instead of the worthless hour of bullshit, get a 15-minute "Here are some new threats you might not know about/here's the hot shit the Norks/Chichoms/Soviets are upto today"

Even with the weekly, "Dont rape women. Stop drunk driving." PowerPoints, you always had that one nigger...
Every fucking friday: "Don't drink and drive. Don't beat your spouse. Don't get into fights. Don't kill yourself. Dont' kill anyone else. Don't lease a fucking mustang without first taking the lease to JAG to make sure you aren't getting raped"
Every fucking Sunday, you'd have accountability because some retarded niggers did every one of those things. sometimes it would all be done by the same nigger.
 
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through poison pills in the negotiations with congressional Democrats
and the best part is that they handed this to him over a temp extension with zero changes aside from ACA. They fucked this in such a way that even if he goes scorched earth on wastrels, he can turn around and say "These are the people who support a party that refused a simple extension of discussion to try and force policies, while using the American people as leverage." and he'd be completely right.
 
When Trump gets into upset Dad mode it's as strong as his shitposting Luffy smile:

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"You're going to call the neighbor and apologize for breaking their window and repay it by mowing their yard for the Summer"
 
No, because they do not actually believe Somalis, Haitians, Guatemalans, and so on are violent retards incapable of civilization. They think they will bring them here, then prove how racist the chuds are by turning them all into laptop workers.

Proof:


If leftists secretly understood how worthless niggers are, they wouldn't have screamed and cried for body cams. They literally actually thought negro crime is a racist myth.
"These useful idiots ... They serve a purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in the United States: all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more." Yuri Bezmenov
 
I'm no military buff, but surely for bullying pirates and 3rd worlders, a battleship is the most economical way to do it safely right? Those shells can't be that expensive (on a military scale), maybe a few thousand a shot as compared to missiles that cost hundreds of thousands.

A battle ship costs around as much as an aircraft carrier to operate. The only reason for them to be so big is to have a platform to fire multiple 400mm guns from, which have no real purpose except to bombard other heavily armored ships (made obsolete by carriers) or to bombard land (made obsolete by cruise missiles and, again, carriers). A 20-mile range is a lot for a gun, but not a lot in absolute terms, as modern cruise missiles have a 1000-mile range. If all you want to do is take out pirate boats, you don't need 400mm guns. You need 80mm guns. German U-boats used to tear merchant boats to shreds with their 8.8cm KwK cannon.

The reason we don't sink pirate boats isn't lack of technology; it's that the typical US voter, particular the female voter, finds the prospect of just killing the bad guys to be utterly horrifying. They think bad guys can be cured with therapy and well-building projects.
 
You mean like the Jews who maintain dual citizenship and lobby our politicians?

Yes, those too. I’m only for America and Americans. I am very vocal about my undying hatred for lobbyists, all of them. I believe we shouldn’t allow dual citizenship. The very act of legalized foreign government interference and pay to play (foreign lobbying) is treason against the American citizens and should be treated as such.
 
I am a bit worried on relaxing the frequency of cybersecurity training. Some people are real fucking dumb and need to be reminded over and over.
If they use Password123 just stick them next to a 155mm howitzer without earplugs for 2 hours for corporal punishment
 
Not remotely what this is about. The sticking point is primarily ACA tax credits which are used to keep health insurance premiums down for people that don't have insurance through their employer. The tax credits are set to expire at the end of the year, which will dramatically inflate the premiums many Americans pay for insurance. It should be noted that the tax credits are extremely popular, even among Republicans. It has nothing to do with illegals or anything else whatsoever.
Good to know.If its such a nothing burger, why is Drumf seething about it
 
I know its probably been asked before,, but what kind of jobs will be affected? Will food service be? I just don't want to get laid off.
tl;dr: It is unlikely you'll be laid off, but you might need to be ready for reduced or no paycheck for a couple weeks. If you aren't a retard with money, that shouldn't be an issue.

It depends. Are you are a Fed, A Federal contractor, or are employed by a federal contract?

If you are Fed, you're fine (unless the mass beheadings actually start)

If you are a Federal contractor (that is, you are are paid directly by the federal government but are officially employed by another entity) that will be down to the term of your employment contract. You are very likely paid through October though. And even if the shut down last longer than that its highly likely you'll be returned to full employment once the taps turn back on.

If you are a employee of a federal contract, that is you are employed and paid (benefits) by a non-federal entity even if you do all/most your work for federal agencies, that will come down to the terms of the contract your employer made. Very likely they are pre-funded for the year, however the Federal entity you do your work for may request that services are suspended/contractors furloughed.
For example, if you sling hash a federal prison you are likely completely fine.
If you work in the CIA's cafeteria, you might be told you are having your hours cut back, or you might get told to stay at home and not get paid.
 
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