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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I still remain unconvinced that an election will be coming at all. I won't believe any murmurings until it happens, frankly. All of the polls, from basically every pollster, shows Labour getting thrashed in a hypothetical GE. None of these people are going to want to give up the gravy train, and with Sultana torpedoing Corbyn's Cope Party, defections might be slowed for now.
Just depends on whether or not Starmer feels he has a choice.

After all, if you were leader of a party of disloyal split-arses, at some point you're going to think 'fuck this with the largest dildo in Christendom!'

@teriyakiburns There's more chance IMO that the SNP would pact with the Greens especially if the Greens feel that they can chisel away at the Labour, Lib Dem and Your Party vote base.
 
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Niggers, rape apes, street shitters and Nbugu and his tongue clicking pals are bad but white people who fuck them are infinitely worse.
But what about my girlfriend who is 3% Black on her great great great great grandma's side? Check mate racist. If I can't have sex with mixed race people then this country is fascist!
Kneecap chant ‘f*** the Royal Family’ at London gig after Trump State Visit
Kneecap keep trying to piss everyone off don't they? They don't even have any real political take, it's just attack everything like some sort of faggot goblins.
 
Man I really fucking wish this site was just normal. The fucking fortnight I've had jesus christ. You really can not hate jeets and niggers enough holy fuck. I wish I could fucking talk about it because I am just fucking baffled at half this shit but kier would find me and idk force me to marry a 5 year old whatever the fuck he stands for these days. I've tried typing shit and just making things up and replacing details with lies but it's such a baffling and specific chain of events it is impossible to make up details without turning the entire fucking fortnight into fiction which honestly it could be. If I did even try to say some of the shit that happened you'd think I was just making it all up. It's more than just retardation, it's that they have done things that I would not even ever imagine a human doing. Well I guess I don't wish this site was normal, I wish our government was normal and allowed me to point out that damn all the retarded shit I've seen recently has come from one colour. But hey at least I can take out the fucking burning desire to shout some slurs here without annoying my gf for about the 50th time this week. I cannot explain why, but at the end I fucking missed turks. That's how bad it's been.
Lily Allen is an utter idiot, we have established this previously. She is a nasty, thick, vapid and talentless little cluster B.
I fucking hate not just her but that side of the industry. I remember listening to some of her songs as a kid, back when you had no money to buy music and computer use was limited to pvz on the family computer for an hour per sunday type shit so you'd just leave that mtv was it? channel on and it'd just play whatever the fuck was popular at the time. I remember some of her shit being on the ambient speakers in town too. And I go back and listen to some of it and it's just fucking sex. It's just haha small willy, willy no work, me whore, me like big willy, not you, you small willy (which i dont like) bullshit. I fucking hate the pornification of popculture and all that bullshit. Yea we get it you're a vapid whore why the fuck is your song about how much you love getting fucked all over every single speaker though? It's the same as my ex too, he'd fucking bang on about some tranny whore musician sophie and would always go on about how much he loves his music and you listen to it and it's just yea i love being pissed on i want to drink your piss also i have a latex fetish and i want a footjob. Like what the fuck am I meant to do with that information? Yea no I agree but I go tell that to my fucking gf not my record label. Please ask me about fucking latex lube it's been a long week I'm more than happy to go off on how fucking extortionate that shit is especially now you can't just use talc since dumb niggers were so fucking dumb they shoved talc inside their vaginas and it gave them cancer and somehow that's my fault. If I want to hear some whore blab on about how she needs big dicks I'd go to the babe station beauties and all that anyway, not fucking mtv. Idk I just kinda dislike when I revist my childhood to find oh it's actually just fucking gooners. God give strength to the kids that are going to do that nowadays and realise that yea their entire childhood was roblox fetish games and discord grooming. Like come on I just expect women to not be massive sex exhibitionists on the same level as trannies. I expect sophie and the fucking 100gecs shit dear feeter pinned that makes the site load slower and his piss fetish whatever to be degenerate but idk if I'm not allowed to say nigger into a void in the middle of nowhere online because ofcom will arrest me then how the fuck can I go and sing about my sexual escapades on tv and them not have an issue? Like I love sex and porn and kinky shit, I don't fucking want it in my music and I especially don't want it in my fucking childhood? But I guess that's too much to ask. It'd be too womanphobic to say that the world doesn't need to know how much of a slut you are or some shit whatever the fuck modern feminism has mutated in to. Maybe I'm being hyperbolic or whatever, caring too much, I certainly am. Don't get me wrong I haven't thought about her in ages, probably when I went back to listen to my childhood music, but she has a firm place in that mental list of musicians I just hate, right alongside 100gecs sophie bbno£ and fucking dorian electra. All for pretty similar reasons actually. I'm just a hateful and spiteful faggot :) I just fucking hate the new wave of techno slop tranny bullshit. Grow up. Grow a pair of proper balls, none of those estrogen riddled tumours. Grow the fuck up. This is England. We listen to McMental and that is the only type of this music we respect in this country.

He's a Bristol artist so it's more than likely a reference to Palestine Action.
I've always found him to be an overhyped faggot. But I've been seeing quite a few Japanese nationalists spreading the story about this being about silencing anti immigration protests. The best part is that you cannot deny it. Banksy has decided he wants to be an artist. You make art. There is no such thing as an incorrect interpretation of art. Art is meant to be interpreted and all that shit. Whether he likes it or not he has created art which very easily can be about how the ruling class in england want all of the native english dead and raped.

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It likely isn't even the British police that let this slav trash walk around the streets. The security guards at these hotels are always foreigners themselves and they do little to no policing or enforcement of any laws, if anything they often play defence for them.
I wish I could go in to details. But yes. Even 'properly' employed foreigners will still allow these migrants and just other shitskins to commit crimes and be accomplices to them.
turns out he's a super mega pedo:
So the left has a problem with people raping kids now? Fucking news to me that one. So they'll all be dropping the palestine flags right? Right?
Since covid I have had nothing but disdain for the British Parliament. I am much more on the chaos route now of just breaking the wheel.
I remember being a teenager, back when they bought in the zombie knife ban, I was too young to vote or anything like that so no matter what I thought it was pointless. But that single moment is the start of me hating the entire government and most of the population too. Some fucking nigger child goes out and stabs some other nigger child. Local facebook mum groups outraged. They cry out for help, please daddy government won't you fix our problems for us? On the surface something I'd agree with. At the time probably said yea there should be more police and all that, nowadays I'd just say fuck it hang them. But that's not what the government did. The government decided to fucking announce that they were going to ban a 'zombie knife' something which to this day is yet another vague nebulous term with no actual meaning. Sometimes it just means brightly coloured knives, you know like those bright primary colour knives everyone in this country seems to have been scammed in to buying that have the shitty little covers that are meant to lock but never actually work and just in general are shit quality. I google it and I get met with this direct quote "But the new law will mean that blades without images or words will also be recognised as zombie knives if they have other key features, such as a cutting or serrated edge.". What the fuck does this mean? A knife with a cutting edge? Are you fucking retarded? YES obviously. A fucking serrated edge knife, pack it in boys can't even fucking cut bread anymore apparently. It's fucking meaningless. But all these retard fucking facebook mother cunts just ate it up, yes please mr pig fucker please ban these things it will help so much. And so they did. And what happened? The criminals just fucking kept using them or switched to a fucking kitchen knife. They traded a long hard to conceal piece of shit aluminium for a proper knife. We don't so much have a knife crime problem, obviously we do, but we have specifically a stabbing problem. Look if you've ever seen gore videos cartel shit and all those sorts of things you will know just how resilient the human body is. You can hack and slash at someone's limbs and they will live. Doubly so if they are using fucking aluminium instead of steel. Aluminium machetes are (relatively) safe to be attacked with. People die from being stabbed not cut. So you have taken away a knife that is not very easy to kill someone with and forced people to use something that is much easier to kill someone with. Everyone with a brain called that shit out. Everyone said this will not fucking work. And yet they all ate it up. They all fucking loved it. And it did fucking nothing because of course it did. Of course the niggercattle gobble up the dogshit without thought. Fucking child sees through that shit but 'adults' can't? They are fucking stunted cunts that do not deserve to vote or influence politics. If I fire up my email and spam my local representitive with absolute niggerbabble they will just ignore me and write me off as a schizo, they should do the same with all these facebook mothers and just all politicians in general. Obviously the politicians are retarded faggots for pushing through this law, but they just did so to make it seem like they are actually doing something which is just disingenous political faggotry but the people believing them deserve to be in care homes or whatever the fuck we did with all the other lobotomites.

Idk am I the only one that is just fucking confused by all these names? Especially as they're just names with no face attached. Half the time people ask what my name is and it takes a while for me to remember let alone fucking 1000 different traitors and I'm meant to remember what any of them are. I can hardly remember who's in charge of the country half the time, it's only with kier being such a massive cunt that I've remembered him. Half the time I get confused and think my favourite politician is called carl sargon ffs. I don't want to remember endless names of endless traitors. I just want someone in charge of this fucking country that gives a shit about this country. I don't want politics and I don't want fighting and I don't want this or that. I want to fucking kiss my gf and hug the dog. Though honestly she went and rolled around in the fucking plants and got shit stuck hair in her which idk if I want to hug her because I'm still not convinced I got all of it out. Dog followed her lead too :)
Maybe she'll whip up a vaarus that only infects glowies and journalists.
We've already got aids, that's close enough.
With how close people got to Farage with those MickeyD milkshakes, it's pretty concerning
Remember that period around 2015 when the media successfully managed to postal style massively increase the number of acid attacks. Throwing any liquid on any one should be treated as an attempt on their life until proven otherwise. It's already assault but that's one of those things that should be given absolutely no leeway.
I would like to engage in an honest question with you lads.
Most people want to believe themselves better than what came before. People want to look back and say that we have improved. We don't lobotomise people anymore so we're better, why yes my son is on hrt why do you ask? Yes we fight nazism and would never question the holocaust that's why I'm on the side of terrorists who actively seek to genocide the jews. People want to think they are better than the past despite reality staring right at them. Just look at the death penalty for the most obvious example. We decided that the gallows was bad because the noise was horrible and the corpse would piss and shit itself and sometimes you'd get a woman's foetus ejected prematurely. So we invented the guillotine. Nice quick and clean instant death. But people complained that there was too much blood. We invented the firing squad which was even better. But despite being the most efficient and humane way of executing someone we decided that it was too gory, we had moved past such violence. We would never do something like that, despite directly funding ukranians doing exactly that to people much less deserving than anyone executed by firing squad. And now we have the lethal injection instead. A simple poke with a needle and you fall asleep and simply never wake up right? Despite the fact that it routinely fails to force a quick and humane death and instead keeps the person in agony for an unneeded amount of time, closer to lynching than hanging. Same for the electric chair, fancy technology of the future until you look at it and realise that while it might look cleaner it is far from how humane a single rifle bullet to the head is. No one wants to confront the reality that we are no different from the past. Me and you are not detached from the people who lived in mud huts and ate rabbits and pigeons for a living. The reality is that we are the exact same creatures that kicked the caliphate out of spain, the nazis out of germany or the aristocracy out of france or whatever. I think people see that sort of ethnostate as medieval, that racism is for old people and all that. Instead of a basic instinct. Most people nowadays will earnestly tell you that certain places online like here are as racist as we were 500 years ago or whatever. People will tell you that saying nigger is racist but it just isn't, it's mean at best and even then I don't give a shit. Barring people from job applications based on skin colour is and even then only just. Unless the racism is stringing people up in the streets I don't give a shit. Honestly I forgot what I was saying. It's been a fucking long day. I do not think that the average person really cares. I don't think the question is 'would you enact tnd?', it's more about phrasing, as you say people are more likely to say TND NOW!!!!!!! to 'if we remove these people your job prospects skyrocket, nhs waiting times plummet and overall crime rates do too', but the same people would probably agree that the poor little kids fleeing oppression and all that made up bullshit deserve a place here. I think that the average joe can agree with what the bbc would push as being extremist, but I don't have faith that when push comes to shove he would stand by those views. White people are just naturally sympathetic. To go back to what is basically eugenics, africa and such you have no reason to group up, there's no reason to build a civilisation, no reason to help someone in need, they're just competition in an area with limited resources, you never need to have outward empathy because you can't, you can't empathise with someone else in africa because the threats are either you die of ebola or are mauled by wildlife. In Europe if you form a village then when winter hits they all go through the same hardships, we are forced to share the hardships with those around us by the land itself. Over time this develops into a mutual understanding, if you see someone in your village who had a bad harvest or something then you understand that that could be you next year, that that person isn't in some sort of individual punishment but instead bad luck that could hit you next. So you become sympathetic with him knowing that he could easily be you, that you know he understands that too, that there becomes a mutual understanding between the entire group to help those who need it. Remove the autocrats and a lot of people are willing to sacrifice some of their comfort for the life of a fellow person. The problem is that black people look just about human enough and with them speaking our language it's just about enough to tug on those strings and trick you in to thinking that the mutal recipricol acts will still be recpricated even when there is countless examples where they will not. Just look at tragedies too, I forget what it was recently, I think it was some woman who's crazed ex husband killed her kids and burnt their house down, small white area. Countless tradies gave labour and others gave money. How many times has that happened in africa or just foreign communities? That'd just be chalked up to a deserved honour thing or whatever bullshit they feel like. I would say I'd love to be proven wrong, that I'd love to see big Baz from down the road off buying bricks and filling jerrycans, but I don't. I don't want to see that. But if that happens then I know what side I will be on and that if it does come down to that then I will be happy to say I am wrong. I simply do not think it will be the majority. I mean just look at the response to trump, guy does a lot of things that should be completely uncontroversial but if you go drumpf bad then you get almost all laughs for some fucking reason. Niggercattle do not have ideals or beliefs, they are simply herded into whatever pen the man upstairs decides on that day.

Also since you mentioned the fucking islamic triangle. Saw another video on twitter of yet more japanese nationalists just posting the average day in both birmingham and leicester. Not even any special events, no fights or any cultural enrichment just a sea of foreigners. Cities so shit that they are some of the best examples for anti immigration and they're ours. Not just that they're ours, but a large part of our history too. Normally these people post actual events, stabbings and rapes and the average migrant activities or their aftermaths and consequences. But no. It's now bad enough that parts of this country are usable for propaganda simply by walking through them. You know like how the actual third world can be.
but they can't fix the pot holes in the road sort of thing.
No they can fix the potholes and all that shit. They will just only do it a month before the budgets and tax money is given to the councils to ensure they can show how much they 'need' the money. They'll fix those problems but only when it gives them a personal advantage. They just don't care about your complaints, they don't want to fix your problems, they only do it so they get paid. They want the roads to be shit, for the bins to be uncollected and all that lot, that way they can say they need more money even though they wasted the majority of it already. So basically the proper government aside from they do actually do what they say in the end instead of just going off to rape pigs and kids and leave a sticky note behind promising some bullshit in a few years.
I think this recognising a Palestinian state farce is a human rights lawyers last arrogant rebellion.
The only state I would ever recognise either palestine or israel in is plasma, specifically after total nuclear annihilation. The cost of a few big glassings would still be nothing compared to the amount of money we send to both sides for no fucking reason.
Get into black metal. There's no danger of that shit happening at an Infernal War gig.
Nah fuck concerts. Just not enjoyable. I just don't get it. If I wanted to listen to some dogshit music surrounded by sweaty men I'd just go to some gay orgy and take some headphones at least I could have a wank if I got bored there. The real meta is going to a pub on folkie night if you want live music.
"EX navy" says if they send the Navy into the channel all they will do is escort the boats to the UK. Because France won't take them back and might declare war on the UK if it insists on not being invaded.
'We haven't got enough ships'. Fucking hell. How? We are a fucking island nation. We have one threat and that is the sea. Let's be real neither the n/rIRA are going to be causing any trouble, even if they did you don't need the military to deal with them just leave them to od on ket by their own hands. If we do not have enough boats to protect against fucking tiny unarmed invader boats what the fuck happens if shtf? Being real it would take maybe 100 men along the coast to shoot down any boats if they're trained, how the fuck is our navy not capable of doing that? Let's be honest, it could, easily. But let's for just one second humour the idea that we do not have enough boats. Why the fuck would you broadcast the message of 'we are entirely unable to defend ourselves from even the most basic of invasions' to the world? I'm sat here as a fucking outsider, I know jack shit about all this. What I do know is that you do not underplay your military unless intentionally. You say that we could sink all the boats if we wanted to but it is simply against their human rights or whatever flavour of bullshit we have this week. Saying that our navy is unable to deal with a couple glorified kayaks is maybe not what we should be putting out there.

Sorry. My fault. I should have remembered that the fucking news loves clickbait misconstruing bullshit taking people out of context. TJD. Fucking hell. Sorry for expecting integrity in journalists.
The French wouldn't go to war with us. Imagine how angry the US would be if the French tried to start a war over defending our borders. The EU is already collapsing and trying to fight us for following US advice would end the entire thing.
The fuck would the French even do? Yes please start a war with the people that saved your ass twice in the last century alone. If they tried to start a war then the people would probably just end up demanding they join on our side instead. Idk we have already seen what happens when you silence the angry populous, firebombed hotels that got quickly swept up and not mentioned again. Give those people guns? Fucking hell. You'd have to be a retard. Yea get the niggers to do it for you? They won't even die for their own country let alone yours. Said it before, I'll say it again. If Europe had the same level of firearm ownership america has we would be in a civil war right now.
SNP Minister forced to QUIT after being accused of assaulting Tory MSP in Parliament:
I know we've been watching fucking countless people quit and be fired and all that shit but where the fuck do they come from? In the fortnight I was off I swear we've gone through enough politicians that we're on a fucking theseus level. Surely we're at a level where all the little guys have been promoted up to head of whatever and all those little spaces are open right? Do they just give up and drag in some guy off the street when they keep running out of people this quickly? It fucking feels like it, though maybe not, I don't think even the lowest of the average general public could be as retarded as what we've seen recently.

Also just because I find it kinda funny. Obviously I am a big proponent of our culture and history which obviously includes traditional music. As much as people say they hate them I fucking love tin whistles and bagpipes. I can understand why you might not like them, personally not a fan of brass which is somewhat adjacent in terms of noise profile. But how the fuck can people say they hate the overwhelming oppressive screech of the bagpipes but then listen to autotuned bullshit. Those in glass houses and all that which I never was never was and never will be anyway. But yea, speaking of old bags I'd pipe, I fucking love steven dawson of WILL YOU BE SHOWING YOUR PUSSY TONITE BABY DING DONG fame. I have discovered that I can no longer listen to one of my favourite songs because of him and his 'and all that'ing. Who would win: possibly the single most influential Gaelic band of our time or a random coomer from kent? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSoxa8XpJ84. You decide.

Anyway. That's a fucking fortnight of posts. Happy 1488 and all that shit which it isn't anyway. I'm off to go get cosy under a blanket with a mug of hot chocolate now the weather's gone to shit proper and idk try find some femboy hot sauce enthusiast squash club just the whitest shit possible I need a complete and thorough paki and jeet detox. That or a pint but I don't think the local would give me a pint of what I want, think normally they serve gin in shots. Probably not a great idea to mix high blood pressure and alcohol anyway.
 
not a great idea to mix high blood pressure
Beetroot juice is a cheat code for lowering blood pressure.

Choose foods high in nitrates (not nitrosamines) for during the week and you can still have fun at the weekend. Beetroot/spinach are a good base for a meal, fill it out with unprocessed meat, mushrooms and a low amount of carbs of your choice.

Blood pressure monitors are cheap, test before and 1 hour after.
 
Once as Guntress and once as Jack.
Oh way more than just those two, @-Jack- has been through about a dozen or so socks in the last few months actuelly, he normally lasts about 10 or so posts before somebody (usually me or mr migrantcrime.org) spots him, because he just can't help but be his true self; a flaming homosexual FAG.
I think his original ban wasn't for being a gay faggot but for the socking funnily enough.
There's a whole thread about him here if anyone somehow missed the lore on our very own bad smell in human form.
 
Kneecap keep trying to piss everyone off don't they? They don't even have any real political take, it's just attack everything like some sort of faggot goblins.
Honestly, "fuck the Royal family," is pretty standard for groups like them and Bob Vylan. It's right up there with cursing capitalism (to their audience who've been charged for the tickets and are paying a tenner a pint), the patriarchy, the West and so on.

Even calling for killing people is just the sad, safe, performative edginess most of these groups indulge in. A proper band of that sort back in the day understood that the occasional kicking was what they deserved for that but now that such speech is bandied around the internet by everyone it barely even registers.
 
Not sure where or even if there was a thread for it but I found this in my junk mail folder from yesterday. UK Petitions

It seems that - if we still have a functioning government by then - on Nov 3rd they will debate the Publishers changing video games post sale thing we were all annoyed about forever ago. Bit of a win really but I’m sure there’s more important things to talk about now.
 
ultimate alt-right pick-me girl
This amuses me because I’m an old lentil weaving environmentalist who believes in workers rights and single payer healthcare, and I’d put myself more in that kind of social democratic 1990s Swedish kind of cultural vibe. So to be labelled alt right is pretty weird. It shows you how much the Overton window has changed. Back in the 80-90s, the prevailing views on abortion, migration etc were not those the insane left holds today.
My views are the views I had in about 1990, and back then I was middle to a little left on every metric you could name. So was the bulk of the populace.
Some days I wish I could just show everyone born after 1990 what the world used to be like, just take them for a walk around London or any town in the country and blow their minds.
Just exiting to add by the way @FrostedClit the alt right doesn’t exist. There is no real left and right. There is a system that exerts power and you’re either using it or being used by it. There is no, zero, none whatsoever group in the running to actually take the leverage of power on the uk (or anywhere else bar perhaps the states) that is actually right wing.
What there is is a massive and genuine and angry upwelling of real emotion and rage at what has been done to us and our countries; people, economy and environment. There are various grifting figureheads who are totally captured who exist solely to provide those angry people with a sense that someone’s listening to them and will act for them. @Overly Serious has pointed out before that the UK gov is very good at isolating any form of resistance to the system, and squishing it.
I can assure you two things.
-. that any genuine right wing or reformist or ‘actually going to make life better for the common pleb’ who meant it and had the capability could have 80% of the uk pop support them in a heartbeat
2. That person would be dead, compromised or sidelined before they’d got out the gate.
There is no left and right. There is the system, and the purpose of a system is what it does. You and me and everyone on here (or most lol) are on the being used end of the system, bickering and labelling each other as lefties or evil right wingers and not looking up at the people holding the levers who are raping the environment, and killing the culture and working the people to death. Which suits them all very well
 
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This amuses me because I’m an old lentil weaving environmentalist who believes in workers rights and single payer healthcare, and I’d put myself more in that kind of social democratic 1990s Swedish kind of cultural vibe. So to be labelled alt right is pretty weird. It shows you how much the Overton window has changed. Back in the 80-90s, the prevailing views on abortion, migration etc were not those the insane left holds today.
My views are the views I had in about 1990, and back then I was middle to a little left on every metric you could name. So was the bulk of the populace.
Some days I wish I could just show everyone born after 1990 what the world used to be like, just take them for a walk around London or any town in the country and blow their minds.
I'm a natural Labour voter, by the old political calculus. From a post-industrial Norf FC shithole that had been Labour since God was a lad, grew up in a terraced house that still had an outside shitter, working in a heavily unionised industry.

The party abandoned us in favour of "that dreary tribe of high-minded' women and sandal-wearers and bearded fruit-juice drinkers" who were obsessed with elevating foreigners, fruits and nuts at the expense of the British working class. Then they decided that the best thing for our northern shitholes that had already had their hearts ripped out and mirpuri inbreds poured in was.... call us all bigots and import more foreigns.

I believe in a strong state, with a decent national health system and safety net for the British. Natural monopolies (leccy, water etc.) should be under state control. Industries vital to national security like defence, steel, shipbuilding should be under state control.

In a sane world I would be a lefty but because our entire political class have decided to hand over our country, our heritage, and increasingly our ethnic identity and ethnic history to foreigners who have contributed nothing, will contribute nothing and can contribute nothing, I'm now a far-right fascist bigot. So be it, as long as I get a nice uniform.
 
I believe in a strong state, with a decent national health system and safety net for the British. Natural monopolies (leccy, water etc.) should be under state control. Industries vital to national security like defence, steel, shipbuilding should be under state control.
Me too. Renationalise the lot of it. To be labelled alt right when your politics are ‘look after your country, and its people and natural resources’ is interesting. It shows you how far the window has shifted
Look at who holds the power. What power do any ‘right’ figures have in the uk? None. Their talking heads are just that, they don’t get anywhere near being able to do things. What power do the figures of the ‘left’ have? Well, a lot - they are in government, they make up the civil service, and they have their tentacles in the media, in NGOs, and those NGOs wield huge influence via educating the nhs and schools on tranny rights and all that.
The purpose of a system is what it does, and the people who control the system are the ones in charge, not a single ‘right’ or ‘pro human and environmental decency’ figure has any power anywhere.
That’s all I need to know. There is no alt right. It doesn’t exist. It’s just a mask on a grift
 
‘pro human and environmental decency’ figure has any power anywhere.
Was the Green Party ever this? i know it became fully co-opted by trannies and pedos, and was mostly commies before that, but in theory…

I wonder how long before someone pitches a benevolent AI as decision maker, with its prime commandments published snd untouchable.

The humans are always so deceitful. You vote for the party of the worker and you get the biggest neoliberal but authoritarian swindle of all time. You vote for the party that’s literally called conservative, and they put an Indian in charge who changes the rules to import a million jeets per year in perpetuity.
 
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Was the Green Party ever this? i know it became fully co-opted by trannies and pedos, and was mostly commies before that.
Being anti-nuclear power seems to be a pretty ubiquitous Green position, but there may be exceptions in some times and places. I'd say that's a good marker for who is serious and knowledgable about their supposed area of concern. A lot of the time they just feel like that same type of semi-religious thing that's eaten a lot of the left, but with the oikophobia turned up until they just hate their entire species.
 
Was the Green Party ever this? i know it became fully co-opted by trannies and pedos, and was mostly commies before that.
I think they were pretty heavily co opted from the start. Before they were the greens they were the people party, and they were zero growth from the start. The left wing insanity stuff got added on early on. teddy goldsmith was involved from the start,
and various goldsmiths are still involved in some interesting political / borderline cult stuff (which I will say no more about, because I dont fully understand what they’re doing but do know something involved with it who has said some things I might actually not disagree with totally) and thus cannot form a coherent opinion
We do need a green political wing IMO, and it’s annoying they’re basically pedo Marxist loons, because I do like our green and pleasant land and would like to live on a clean and healthy planet overall.
There is a way to have business thrive, and people thrive, and to not fuck the environment up completely, we just need to be a bit sensible. Wr can all have freedom of speech and expression and rich people can even stay rich! I find it very odd indeed that is ch a political viewpoint is seen as extremist, because it seems very dull and sensible to me, but what do I know?
 
Was the Green Party ever this? i know it became fully co-opted by trannies and pedos, and was mostly commies before that, but in theory…

The party as a whole never was, but there is certainly a wing of the party which focuses strongly on the principle of protecting the environment. They aren't winning rural council seats (and now MPs) off the Tories by campaigning on Gaza and trannies in those areas.
 
I’d vote for you Otterly.
Yes I always thought there should be a “pro industry as long as it’s mostly green industry” economy in the UK, or at least in Scotland. Look how well Scandinavia and Holland is doing from that.
 
We do need a green political wing IMO, and it’s annoying they’re basically pedo Marxist loons, because I do like our green and pleasant land and would like to live on a clean and healthy planet overall.
Yeah...over here we call it "conservationism". It's when you actually enjoy outdoor spaces, and therefore want to manage and preserve them; as opposed to spending your life indoors with a vague sense that taking a walk through the woods would be exploitation.

Not to divulge my social security number, but I have personally laid eyes on England before. One thing that's very striking is that it is a pastoral country. The land is very managed. And I like what you've done with the place! America is massively different, even now there are big unsettled areas, barely manageable tracts of wilderness. We do have rangers and manage ecosystems, but more at the level of stuff like trying to control populations of predators than putting in hedgerows. Why mention it? Well as you see with BLM, American ideas just get imported wholesale, without even being repackaged for local consumption. Even if America had sensible environmentalist memes for our...well, environment, they would be totally absurd as applied to England; and I'm sure there are plenty of absurdities being imported.
 
There's a few ways:

1) Career ending scandal - 'Starmer's a Nonce, we have proof etc.' This would be McSweeney and Blair's revenge against a man who has well and truly fucked Labour up permanently.

2) VONC, but he'd then go for a General Election as he doesn't want Blairites to rule - don't forget, he can now (thanks to Boris repealing the FTPA - or Fixed Terms Parliament Act) call one at any time.

3) The Budget fails to pass which is looking likely.
Are 1) and 3) process to remove the PM?
What would have to happen for Starmer to leave. What's the mechanics behind it?

Short of royal decree, who can 'fire' him or force him to leave? Would a VONC result in Starmer saying "fuck it, I quit" or could he just say "fuck it, you're all replaced"?
 
Not to divulge my social security number, but I have personally laid eyes on England before. One thing that's very striking is that it is a pastoral country. The land is very managed. And I like what you've done with the place! America is massively different, even now there are big unsettled areas, barely manageable tracts of wilderness. We do have rangers and manage ecosystems, but more at the level of stuff like trying to control populations of predators than putting in hedgerows. Why mention it? Well as you see with BLM, American ideas just get imported wholesale, without even being repackaged for local consumption. Even if America had sensible environmentalist memes for our...well, environment, they would be totally absurd as applied to England; and I'm sure there are plenty of absurdities being imported.
One of the funnier things about the UK, is that at some point, all of it has been shaped by human hands. Every single dammed inch has been remoulded at some point by people. There really isn't anywhere wild in the UK, so much as there are places that have been remade to look close to being wild.
 
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