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Should be a wild four years.

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deleuzeon said:
Do I like seeing "Zion Don" support Israel? Nope, not a bit, but who really gives a fuck about this. In a month this will be forgotten. It's not WW3.
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i give a fuck because its more unnecessary bullshit that we may have to deal with. there are so many possible consequences from this action and my point is why get involved at all? to help israel yet again? whats the point of doing anything at all?
 
harmacist said:
i give a fuck because its more unnecessary bullshit that we may have to deal with. there are so many possible consequences from this action and my point is why get involved at all? to help israel yet again? whats the point of doing anything at all?
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I'm not in love with it either, but hey. It's better to be the nation that might unpredictably bomb your fucking ass if you pipe up than to be the nation that will not do shit.
 
Fapcop said:
Nah, I’m off the Trump train.

Not just because it’ll probably spin out of control for him, but also because fuck. I can’t in good conscience support someone dumb enough to get swindled by neocons and low tier IQ likes like Levin.

I still like Vance though. And Trump was (probably!) better than the alternative. Kamala would probably have gotten the US involved in Ukraine, which would be even worse.
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Same here maybe some might be on the Trump train I'm off it because I know the blowback will be bad and terrible.
It might sound crazy but I'm more Thomas Massie rand Paul than Ted Cruz.
Judex Meus said:
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While fat packs has to wear a burger suit he is right about the forever war shit.
 
Null said:
This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.

I'm not fucking wargaming this, I'm just explaining how a world war works.
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Devil's advocate- the U.S machine demands war blood. There are a million faulty casus belli for war with China, but we only need to use one. Then we have a war to inspire and scare the population with.

Economic stressors, riots in the streets, rampant social strife. All fixed with a good ol' fashioned generation wiping war with China.
Russia is too gay, old, and cantankerous for us to use as our playmate now. The party demands a spry Oceania.
 
deleuzeon said:
It's better to be the nation that might unpredictably bomb your fucking ass if you pipe up than to be the nation that will not do shit.
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what kind of nigger mentality is this? we have to start a chain reaction so we dont get perceived as weak?
 
One thing is for certain, at the cost of sending its men into the Ukie meatgrinder to pretend to expansionism, Russia's geopolitical aims in the middle east is getting decimated.
 
Null said:
What's the point of discussing all this shit without consequence.
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For what it's worth the Iranian response of 'nothing is damaged and everything was moved out long ago' is an indication that they don't plan on retaliating directly. The US intentionally didn't use any of the mideast bases and apparently even gave direct warnings beforehand.

It's probably going to be something like the Soleimani killing (which was much more consequential and confrontational) or at least that's what Trump hopes for.
 
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0713 said:
When China makes a real move on Taiwan.
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mlanguishi said:
I think people watched Red Dawn type movies too much.
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MrJokerRager said:
America is now finally great again.
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evilsponge said:
Thank God Trump is breaking the cycle of endless wars in the Middle East
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My key prediction for upcoming long term developments is that Western countries may seek to portray the BRICS nations collectively as a significant geopolitical challenge. For example, Trump's tariffs indicate a serious concern regarding BRICS countries. Currently, public attention appears to be shifting away from traditional issues such as Islamic terrorism and white supremacy, and some progressive voices are hesitant to emphasize China as a primary concern due to sensitivities around accusations of racism. Consequently, framing BRICS as a unified threat could serve to consolidate geopolitical narratives by addressing China, Russia, and Middle Eastern nations under a single strategic focus. BRICs will become the next big politically correct enemy. Arma 3 and call of duty pushing the idea of a BRICS like organization becoming NATO like.
 
Man I really can't wait for something more interesting to happen because this desert war shit is always the most boring and overplayed politics conversation.
 
majob said:
Can you list what's happened since the bombing then?
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TBF we won't know much for a few weeks. It's been less than 12 hours now. I'm always of the mindset when it comes to pissing off islamics, they're already pissed off. I'm seeing a lot of screaming there will be terror attacks, which is possible.
 
Ruined by the Rain said:
Can someone tell me when WW3 is going to happen
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No. The Trump Doctrine is as simple as this, “You want to fuck with us we will just bomb the shit out of you.” Trump revealed this is his mentality when he claimed that if Russia had invaded Ukraine on his watch he would have bombed their military bases.

Now don’t get me wrong I’m not saying Trump would have actually just started bombing Russia if he had the chance - that would start WW3. Iran is not a WW3 power, Iran is a little backwards shithole and if they couldn’t answer back immediately after this THEY CANNOT DO IT NOW.

What is Iran going to do? Shoot more missiles at Israel that couldn’t match the damage Hamas achieved with terrorists on paragliders? What allies are going to stick their neck out for Iran? Trump has made it simple if Iran tries to keep pulling more shit they will just continue to be bombed.

There’s not going to be an invasion, MAGA would revolt if we started the War on Terrorism 2.0. The Ayatollah will stay the supreme leader, he will lead over Ash and Cinder if he doesn’t fuck off.

And don’t give me any bullshit that the powerful Arab States will turn on America for their poor Persian brother. They want to make money and live in leisure.
 
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