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Should be a wild four years.

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With who? Iran and... All of their nonexistent allies? People are way too quick to throw around WW3.
WW3 is not WW1 where a series of inexplicable alliances fire off in sequence resulting all countries that matter fighting each other. WW3 is Russia's botched invasion of Ukraine allowing Azerbaijan to invade Armenia and Russia's failure to support it giving the Syrian rebels an indicator that Assad was by himself causing an unexpected push which allowed Israel to safely destroy Syria's aircraft and air defenses as well as taking Mount Hermon permitting it to have an air passage by which to conduct an air assault on Iran forcing the US to intervene and drop bunker busters on its nuclear facilities. (For those keeping track: Ukraine, Russia, United States, Israel, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Syria, Iran).

What happens next? Does Iran's chaos cause it to stop supporting terror networks resulting in an Indian invasion of Pakistan? Does Yemen get invaded by Saudi Arabia? Does the US need to intervene somewhere else? How much compounding drama to secure Israel does the US need to get into before China feels safe enough to invade Taiwan?

That's how it starts.
 
There is a possibility that Iran chooses to not really do anything to the United States but keep fighting against Israel which results in more Iranian facilities getting bombed by American ordinance. Not going to say it will happen but the chance of such a thing occurring is higher then zero percent.
 
Good to know. So we can delete A&H because nothing happens right? What's the point of discussing all this shit without consequence. It doesn't matter.
It was a meme joke. 'Things happen' but nothing too much. I don't see major states invading each other, probably a lot more skirmishes though. My main concern has been forever US/Europe vs China vs Russia. I think the world is a bigger risk of Russia just saying fuck it than these others, but that's just my guess.

The biggest major flash point by far used to always be the Korean DMZ but these days you rarely hear about it, funny enough when Best Korea got nukes the general threat hasn't been as much, except when Kim tests his ICBMs every few years.

ETA I think the 'best' outcome here would be a Libya situation, where the crazy leader is just killed off his own after fairly little pushing by the west.
 
If Iran's recourse is to sue instead of fight, why are retards still claiming we've started a war?
Those in good faith just don't want to see us in the fucking middle east AGAIN, especially just becuase our masters in Israel told us to do it
Those in bad faith are desperate to shatter the right's base so the midterms will be close enough to rig and they can stall out Trump until 2028 and hopefully rig it for Newsom instead of Vance
And of course there's just trolling faggots who are desperate to piss off the people in this thread.
 
There is a possibility that Iran chooses to not really do anything to the United States but keep fighting against Israel which results in more Iranian facilities getting bombed by American ordinance. Not going to say it will happen but the chance of such a thing occurring is higher then zero percent.
What honestly can Iran do in this situation? What attack can they launch? What weapon systems do they have that could harm the US? A bunch of indirect piracy in some canal that most Americans can't find on a map? Truth is, the sum total of their contribution to the world is Memri TV memes. An unimportant little inbred mountain nation. Do I like seeing "Zion Don" support Israel? Nope, not a bit, but who really gives a fuck about this. In a month this will be forgotten. It's not WW3.
 
There is a possibility that Iran chooses to not really do anything to the United States but keep fighting against Israel which results in more Iranian facilities getting bombed by American ordinance. Not going to say it will happen but the chance of such a thing occurring is higher then zero percent.
They're planning a blockade, how well it goes remains to be seen.
 
God I can't wait for all the boomers to be coffin stuffing, maybe then the philosemitism can finally end and Israel won't be the shiniest jewel in Satan's crown.
Part of this is becuase Israel is fully aware that their golem has turned on them, that their "fellow whites" scheme + everyone becoming painfully aware of their constant subversion efforts throughout the rest of the civilized world means they're about to lose all the "friends" they had. Should be interesting seeing what happens when Israel can't refill the Iron Dome for free, eh?
 
They're planning a blockade, how well it goes remains to be seen.
Blockading Strait of Hormuz right? That would be a pretty suicidal move, but Iran rarely acts terribly rational.

I'll add, the US Army has always been somehow the least successful imo countering things in general. But I have faith in the Navy and Air Force, if they tried a blockade their ships would be goners.
 
It sure was nice not being at war with Iran. I guess good things can't last
This was still a warning shot to Iran. "We already said we know where your Ayatollah bunker is. We just demonstrated our ability to crack the Ayatollah bunker by three equally hard bunkers. Come to the peace talks while you still have a Head of State."

They're planning a blockade, how well it goes remains to be seen.
If they actually try, things are going to get real "proportional", really damn quickly. Last time they tried that stunt, a single Carrier Strike Group and some frigates turned half of their navy into coral reefs in a single day.
 
If Netanyahu wanted to continue war with Iran, Trump obliterating their nuclear stuff doesn't help him, because it is what he is using as an excuse to continue to destabilize Iran.
So I don't really get it, unless Iran is retarded and attacks American troops directly in response then the impetus is really to negotiate now. He seems to be giving Netenyahu the opportunity to de-escelate by removing the nuclear stuff from the table. I don't think israel will though, they want to behead the snake.
 
Can someone tell me when WW3 is going to happen
When China makes a real move on Taiwan.

No shithole third world conflict is going to start a big war like that anymore. Countries are too stable for that and even the crazy dictators are too comfortable these days.

China is not going to make the same mistake as Putin. When they make their move they're going to be ready and it's going to be big.
 
US need to get into before China feels safe enough to invade Taiwan?
Unless the bulk of the pacific fleet seemingly collapses overnight invading Taiwan will always be a dumb move for a country who counts fishing boats as part of their navy
 
When China makes a real move on Taiwan.

No shithole third world conflict is going to start a big war like that anymore. Countries are too stable for that and even the crazy dictators are too comfortable these days.

China is not going to make the same mistake as Putin. When they make their move they're going to be ready and it's going to be big.
China can bomb Taiwan into obvlivion but I still don't see how they move an invasion force there about like D-Day size without it being stopped en route. I think people watched Red Dawn type movies too much.
 
Unless the bulk of the pacific fleet seemingly collapses overnight invading Taiwan will always be a dumb move for a country who counts fishing boats as part of their navy
This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.

I'm not fucking wargaming this, I'm just explaining how a world war works.
 
All of this China Taiwan talk assumes that China is dumb enough to sever their most lucrative trade deals with those in the US/NATO sphere of influence. China will be a paper tiger as long as its internal stability is dependent on foreign money flowing in, Taiwan is simply not important enough to risk all that, not to mention actual retaliation. They'll cope and sneed but that's about as far it'll go, they'd much sooner go for their sandnigger and pajeet neighbours before Taiwan.

This operates under the assumption we declare war on China to prevent it from doing what is internationally recognized as policing its own sovereign territory.
This operates under the assumption that the "international community" doesn't change its mind depending on the direction of the wind. Currently it's a good thing to be nice to China, if china loses power or economic stability, it'll be a good thing to hate China, satellite nations of superpowers are fickle and won't tie themselves to anything unless forced to.

I don't think israel will though, they want to behead the snake.
Isreal nuking themselves in 5... 4... 3...
 
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