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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Made In Wales]

I don't really care about babies but: This reasoning is the worst reason to do anything ever, I quite like having archaic stuff like right to roam subtly implied in our bullshit mess of legislation, any sort of "standardizing" shit is doomed to globohomo it, and should be quite rightly regarded as utterly SUS until proven otherwise.

Okay maybe I do care about babbies; it's still killing right? I know "murder" is a legal definition (which is by definition always wrong) which is what the legal issue is, but we can all concur that it's (potentially perhaps even justified) killing right? Because the gov "LALALA'ing this away is what has my jimmies rustled; it's some up is down bollocks and opens the door to other such nonsense.

Bang on the money, and the Disability Bill is due next month.

This will end the Government either way:

If it passes, the Woke Left will go ape shit.
If it fails to pass, Starmer will remove the Whip from dissidents.

I'm just waiting for the salty tears to flow.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Nothing I want more than a Lib-Lab-Con coalition. It'll be the complete death of them, allow Reform to get even stronger for 5 years and result in every fucking voter in the UK being pissed off to the point of full blown non-compliance.

Thinking about this, and using Germany as a precedent, I think it's better if Reform were to get in early and prove themselves to reassure the electorate that they're viable than possibly give people more time to "cool off", also don't want to give 5 years more of our current shitshow. Even the German 3-party coalition of Greens, SPD, and the CDU didn't result in the AFD getting a position of power (the CDU still made a coalition with the SPD), and still took 4 years before it broke apart despite how ideologically opposed they all were to one another, but I'll fully concede on on this view given that Germany might just have an exceptionally cucked centre-right party, even compared to the UK.

I am an eternal pessimist; but even I think that Reform might function as a good battering ram to get a more right wing government into place; even if Farage is as useful as a cock flavoured lollipop in an asexual pride parade.

I think a lot of people have an Americanised view of how our system works. Right now 3 of Reform's 5 MPs support banning the Niqab, which Farage never even floated prior. If more socially conservative MPs get in they can effectively steer the party to achieve its own ends or even no-confidence Farage which'd be fucking hilarious, or MPs proposing and voting on bills that Farage can do nothing about but impotently abstain or vote against. One of the best things Reform has going for it is that they don't have a pre-established MP roster to choose from like the Tories and Labour, so they're largely confined to paying members (who are going to be anti-immigrant anyway at a minimum) or defectors from the Tories. It's not like in America* where individual representatives can get a fuckton of money chucked at them from 3rd parties to push for X-reason (Israel); it's self-funded for the most part or paid for by the party. The closest Reform had to an external influence was Zia Yusuf, who's currently been shelved in Kent to work as a glorified administrator/accountant despite how much money he's donated to the party, because of the simple fact that, even without Lowe, Reform's MPs are still more conservative than its leadership.

James McMurdock

Lee Anderson


Tice

(His big issue is that he's a business-Tory in the same vein as Boris and Mogg. He prioritises conservative economics over social conservatism, which doesn't have broad appeal like the latter.)

Sarah Pochin (She's the first MP to raise the whole issue of niqab and burkhas to begin with)


And you already know Farage. So, we have a precedent set of every MP who joins Reform (not there since its inception) are more conservative socially than either of its founders (Tice and Farage). I'm seeing in slow motion the party being subverted by people more right-wing than its creators, which is actually a pleasant change for once since we often see the reverse.

*America has, frankly, one of the shittist, most susceptible to corruption and bribing electoral systems in the world, only kept afloat by how many hoops you need to jump through to re-write the constitution because of the lack of legislature supremacy like in the UK. Our government is shit because our politicians are shit and evil, which shouldn't be reassuring but it is because we know it can be much worse. The civil service also believes it has the moral impetus to stymy the government as much as possible, which is still an improvement over America's judiciary, countless self-interested organisations capable of chucking cash for whatever neoliberal dystopia they have in mind, as well as corporate interests (who shouldn't be sucked off in the name of "free market", if they're contributing to subversion they need to be called cunts like anyone else).

 

[Zoot]

It brings Britain up to date

take you baby murdering semantic manipulations and stick them right up your fucking arse.

 

[Mound Dweller]

If a baby can be murdered for any reason, then how long will it be until they're offering state-sponsored euthanasia for depressed 18 year olds?

Yeah exactly, it's the same trail of thought that has me oh so worried about the justification of racial profiling in the paki rapist report, how long till "angry white male" becomes probable cause for whatever they want? Our gov is great for taking simple concepts like that and ramming it right up our asses.

Bang on the money, and the Disability Bill is due next month.

This will end the Government either way:

If it passes, the Woke Left will go ape shit.
If it fails to pass, Starmer will remove the Whip from dissidents.

I'm just waiting for the salty tears to flow.

Inshallah LGBT month lives up to it's name and we get to Lets Go and Bomb Tehran for some extra spice!.
He'd have to pass the house to do a proper intervention right? I member when Hameron tried (and failed) to pull his own little Gulf War, I could see Queer Stomper getting the same humiliation.

 

[Zoot]

Reform UK without Nigel Farage is like Manchester United without Sir Alex Ferguson or Nottingham Forest without Brian Clough.

Love him or loathe him, he's needed for the time being as he will get the results needed to bring Reform UK to power.

THEREAFTER, I am in agreement with most people here - a plan of continuity has to be put in place and a future long-term leader who will do the things necessary.

We have to bear in mind that whilst we are politically intellectual and can debate and discuss, the majority of the electorate are dumb-dumbs who need to have politics spoonfed to them.

If Reform UK can be seen as the party of low tax, low cost of living, high employment and also protect our children, our future and national sovereignty then they'll more or less have it in the bag whilst other parties debate whether it's a Vagnis or a Pegina.

Don't know what anyone thinks of the Homeland Party but I like their rhetoric and their social media followers seem to be pretty on message. I looked into them a bit and the leader encourages his supporters to join the Reform Party to get themselves into as many positions in the party as possible to move it to the hard right.

 

[Crunkle]

Homeland Party

As nice as this would be, the UK electorate have only had bandwidth for the Tories or Labour as a two party system with Lib Dems on the side as a somewhat protest vote.

The Muslims and retards vote for the Greens now.

Just asking the electorate to not just see Reform as a protest vote but as a possible future government is a huge ask. Baby steps. If the two party system can be undermined then that'll lead to being able to push some parties that are ideologically sounder than Reform.

 

[Zoot]

LIberalism is the political movement that leads a group to genocide itself.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Homeland Party

3 words: BBC femboy incident.
tl;dr LOL, LMAO even.

As nice as this would be, the UK electorate have only had bandwidth for the Tories or Labour as a two party system with Lib Dems on the side as a somewhat protest vote.

The Muslims and retards vote for the Greens now.

Just asking the electorate to not just see Reform as a protest vote but as a possible future government is a huge ask. Baby steps. If the two party system can be undermined then that'll lead to being able to push some parties that are ideologically sounder than Reform.

Assuming no true revolutionary scenario; End game ideal is Reform stomping the cons into not being retarded and then some sort of glorious homecoming to what right wing politics is actually meant to be without all the gayshit and kleptocratic merchantry.
3rd party till now was always a meme and I reckon it's gonna be very ephemeral if the heat doesn't keep going up, which it does keep doing to be fair, but none of this is "normal" is it?

 

[Lidl Drip]

I am shocked that a woman saving a baby from the horrible fate of being born British was illegal to begin with. In fact I think post-birth abortions for angloids should be legal as well (if not mandatory). I can think of a couple of people this should be applied to.

 

[Crunkle]

I am shocked that a woman saving a baby from the horrible fate of being born British was illegal to begin with. In fact I think post-birth abortions for angloids should be legal as well (if not mandatory). I can think of a couple of people this should be applied to.

Haven't you got a funeral to gatecrash?

 

[>IMPLYING]

The Muslims and retards

I know there's not real difference between the two, but Muslims are largely flocking to independents from what I've seen.

 

[Mound Dweller]

In the same vein as abortys being a free for all now, I see the occasional opinion piece on "zonal energy pricing", which sounds a bit bonkers, dunno if anyone else actually reads newspapers, but the guy who owns Octopus has been IRL spamming an open letter in every single one of them for a while now, and he's really fucking autistic about it, just look at his website.

Sounds a bit "40 acres and a mule" to me but couldn't be any worse than bri'ish gas surely?

Haven't you got a funeral to gatecrash?

Can't go outside during the day in e*rope m8, the brabant killers will get you, thank god they have so many laws for everything they'd never be able to cope otherwise.

 

[Crunkle]

I know there's not real difference between the two, but Muslims are largely flocking to independents from what I've seen.

Yeah, Muslims love the pro-Palestine Independents. Funnily enough, a good chunk of the Labour front benches have razor thin majorities thanks to them. Basically all of the Brummie MPs.

Everywhere else they vote for Green though.

 

[FedPostalService]

Homeland

Oink, oink!

 

[Made In Wales]

In the same vein as abortys being a free for all now, I see the occasional opinion piece on "zonal energy pricing", which sounds a bit bonkers, dunno if anyone else actually reads newspapers, but the guy who owns Octopus has been IRL spamming an open letter in every single one of them for a while now, and he's really fucking autistic about it, just look at his website.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=bcKKcTM1K48Sounds a bit "40 acres and a mule" to me but couldn't be any worse than bri'ish gas surely?

Can't go outside during the day in e*rope m8, the brabant killers will get you, thank god they have so many laws for everything they'd never be able to cope otherwise.

Octopus and Ecotricity are scam companies, I'd expect one of them at least to go bust soon.

Labour seem to have swallowed the Nuclear flavoured Kool-Aid and are rolling back some of the Wind and Solar Farm plans in favour of Battery and smaller Nuclear Plants.

Dale Vince is vehemently anti-Nuclear and has said that Ecotricity will never sell Nuclear Power.

Same bloke can't even build a new Football Stadium for his team.

Oh happy day - are the annual Notting Hill Riots going to be cancelled?

https://www.gbnews.com/news/notting-hill-carnival-jeopardy-urgent-government-help

Archive: https://archive.ph/rQJc2

 

[Unintelligence Score]

The entire concept of asylum seekers to begin with is completely broken and the sooner we learn to deal with that the better.

Asylum seekers work when there's a legit demand for people, namely after a major war or pandemic and all of a sudden we need a shitload of adults instead of waiting for a million babies to grow up.

The weirdest thing about the refugee crisis in Europe is how backwards the demographic distribution of the incoming population looks like.

Any self-respecting population would send their vulnerable people to seek refuge and leave their fighting-age men to defend the country.

They do the exact opposite, hinting that either:

1. There is no crisis back home, these are mere welfare tourists
   or
2. There is a crisis at home, and they are specifically leaving their vulnerable people behind to be predated upon by incoming hostile forces

 

[BongoMongo]

The weirdest thing about the refugee crisis in Europe is how backwards the demographic distribution of the incoming population looks like.

Any self-respecting population would send their vulnerable people to seek refuge and leave their fighting-age men to defend the country.

They do the exact opposite, hinting that either:

1. There is no crisis back home, these are mere welfare tourists
   or
2. There is a crisis at home, and they are specifically leaving their vulnerable people behind to be predated upon by incoming hostile forces

If we had seen young fighting age men flee this country in such number as scuttle away from Africa, 86 years ago, we would be speaking German right now. And I'm not so sure that's a bad thing given the absolute fucking dumpster fire this country is.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I'd be curious if a woman with dubious moral values decided to public get pregnant with the notion of aborting the foetus at 38 weeks, publicly documenting the process.

Hypothetically it wouldn't be illegal but every week that passes sees extra pressure on the government to change the laws asap.

 

[Otterly]

It brings Britain up to date with several other countries in terms of how abortion is considered in law. Up until yesterday, basically abortion was a criminal act but for certain medical exemptions (2 doctors signing off, before 24 weeks etc) which effectively ‘legalised’ abortions for women who sought them. These new changes mean that abortion is not considered a criminal act now, but do not change the requirements to legally seek one.

It’s not anything even remotely like stabbing your other half to death, because your other half has not been fully grown inside you, nor is totally dependent on your body to grow and survive (hopefully.)

I respectfully disagree.

1. Bringing up to date with other countries. Now aaahhh this is something I’ve talked about a lot on here. This is how they push this stuff through. You target a small place - Malta and Scotland have been ground zero for a lot of tranny lunacy as one example. Very easy to subvert a small legislature. You put the law through. Now you turn round to the larger bloc (Europe here) and you out your best serious face on and say see! Little Malta respects the brave transwomen! Why can’t the rest of you? Or in this case you simply say it brings it in like with other European countries. But why are they right? Why aren’t they in line with us. Anyway that’s how you get legislation through, like a wedge. It’s very effective

2. It IS murder. My other half is not dependent on my body to survive. A premie in an incubator is. Is it legal to go kill one? No. Is it now legal to kill that same stage baby in utero? Yes. That is not right.

The changes to the law mean that a woman who takes abortion pills and kills a 39 week baby will not be prosecuted. That is wrong. It will lead to an increase in women self administering abortions, they’ll just lie about the stage they’re at like the case that kicked this off did, and they’ll get the pills. So more later than safe self administered abortions which is dangerous. Women will die because of this law change.
And THEN what will happen is this:

-There will be a rash of cases where women self administer these pills and die.
- the government will say ‘oh no look at this! This means we have to legalise doctors doing these abortions!’
-abortion up to birth will be legalised

This is how you get laws through. You wedge, and you ratchet.

 

[Dr. Butt]

Not sure if it's already been said, but we all know that the reason these grooming gangs run free is because the girls they raped were just poor people, not Britons of actual value/old money. That's what the gross bitch going "oh, are you really trotting out that old story" was really saying. "Yeah, but they only groom poor girls, not actual people". The ancient disease of caste can never be cured except by guillotine.