Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[HackerX]

Now that he isn't IFP and is flush with cash his best bet would be to hire a lawyer to figure out how to serve them.

I'm pretty certain he's spamming the copyright lawyers to come in and save him. There was an email exhibit from one of his retarded filings a while ago between both parties and Russ was guilt tripping them to come back for free. TBH, those guys were a massive double-edged sword.

On one hand, they managed to resurrect the case via an insane ruling by the 10th circuit because apparently kiwi farms, a website, is responsible for content it has no control over. On the other, Russ hasn't a good day in court (for this case at least) in a while now. I think the net positive for him was the case transferring back from Florida? It hasn't been all sunshine and rainbows for Nullio sense then, but close enough.

If I see this mentioned again, I am threadbanning you
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What I'm getting from this is tacit admission you're Hardin?

So uhh. I'm probably a retard for asking this, did the case move forward after today? I assume the answer is yes, to an extent, but did it meaningfully move forward at all, lol??? The judge should just set one of these conferences up every 2-3 months. I'm sure today isn't something that judges want to do on the reg for a case, but fuck it. It seems like it's the only way to accomplish anything TBH, and today didn't even consider the buttload of fillings that were entered since the date was set.

Last question before I stop procrastinating to walk my dog. Hopefully I'm avoiding "hurr durr judge said application not restraining order hurr durr" retard stuff, but how does Russ go about acquiring that (assuming he doesn't have it saved on his phone, like his other important legal documents). I'd imagine he only needs to contact whatever police department and issue a formal request but hell if I know. Is there a reasonable possibility he's too much of a retard and/or lazy to accomplish getting that application and sending to Hardin Mistake? Common sense dictates no but I have a feelin' that Russ will either intentionally or unintentionally fuck this up.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

So uhh. I'm probably a retard for asking this, did the case move forward after today? I assume the answer is yes, to an extent, but did it meaningfully move forward at all, lol???

It moved a lot more than it has in months, and the Magistrate was in literal shock at the disregard Russ had for discovery rules.

Last question before I stop procrastinating to walk my dog. Hopefully I'm avoiding "hurr durr judge said application not restraining order hurr durr" retard stuff, but how does Russ go about acquiring that (assuming he doesn't have it saved on his phone, like his other important legal documents). I'd imagine he only needs to contact whatever police department and issue a formal request but hell if I know. Is there a reasonable possibility he's too much of a retard and/or lazy to accomplish getting that application and sending to Hardin Mistake? Common sense dictates no but I have a feelin' that Russ will either intentionally or unintentionally fuck this up

He contacts the clerk of the court he submitted that RO application to.

 

[Harvey Danger]

On one hand, they managed to resurrect the case via an insane ruling by the 10th circuit because apparently kiwi farms, a website, is responsible for content it has no control over. On the other, Russ hasn't a good day in court (for this case at least) in a while now. I think the net positive for him was the case transferring back from Florida? It hasn't been all sunshine and rainbows for Nullio sense then, but close enough.

Russ should sue his previous counsel for malpractice, abandonment, promissory estoppel, and emotional distress. Damages are all the costs and sanctions he has to pay, plus any amount necessary for his emotional recovery (a weekend with Vegas hookers).

This is real legal advice and I am offering it to Russ pro bono (hi Russ!)

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

Just as an aside, I want to apologise for heavy handed moderation before and during the hearing. Despite any actions I may have taken against your posts (or if I even yelled at you after), I'm pretty glad with how you all behaved, and any mistakes seem to be few and unintentional.

(I'm not apologizing for yelling at people regarding RO. Sorry not sorry)

I would like to nominate Useful_Mistake for the coveted golden broomstick award. For exceptional moderation in the face of unrelenting autism. And for his attempt to educate us about the American legal system. He still does it for free though.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

As the thread's negative Nancy, I admit the $1000+$400 Russtard now has to pay up and that dismissal is still on the table is nice. But I still just see a lot of blustering, which we've already gone through, and hand-holding for Russ. The stuff about sanctioning the Farms outright makes me angry- we have never posted anything that wasn't publicly avaliable and that the judge even said that tells me he still believes Shit Lip's bullshit on some level. I also fail to see the giving Russell time to submit the failed restraining order as anything good- it just gives Russell an out from facing punishment for his fuckery. Everything really good is still to be decided later, the case still drags on with little actual movement, nothing ever happens.

In short: GIVE ME MOAR YOU CUCK JUDGE

 

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Nothing filed under “attorney’s eyes only” has ever made it into the thread, just to be clear

This is true. Although shitlips has tried to retroactively do that.

Don't tell him, but if he updates his book on Kindle with "For Attorney's eyes Only" on the first page, then no one is ever allowed to give it a negative review, ever again! Scout's honor!

Russ claims he has the ability to pay the filing fee, but doesn't want to

Uh, I'm just a country boy layperson, but isn't that... not what IFP is for?

Goddamn, Greer rolled over surprisingly easy about the IFP filing thing.

Based on what people say in here, it's likely he just stopped listening and zoned out. It's apparently his ~thing~ when he hears someone saying something he doesn't want to hear. Then he just makes himself a huge pain in the ass until people just give up and let him have his way.

If anyone made it into the Zoom call, I suggest opening a stream somewhere (if it doesn't break some kind of law.) This would also funnel a lot of retards who might otherwise misbehave or not understand legal decorum.

Bro didn't actually eat a sitewide permaban for this, did he?

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I feel obligated to mention that despite the implication, he has not bought me even a single breadstick.

I feel a incoming motion for breadstick sanctions inbound...

we have never posted anything that wasn't publicly avaliable and that the judge even said that tells me he still believes Shit Lip's bullshit on some level.

Agreed. I found that particularly annoying.

 

[joebobmurphy]

I feel obligated to mention that despite the implication, he has not bought me even a single breadstick.

How dare you!? They even had cheese on them! You were drinking the marinara like a beverage!

 

[Jacknife]

Shout-out to the madlad with OBS virtual Camera icon, I mean that doesn't mean you are recording but man, the Optics.

As for the judge, I would have thought that if some pro-se retard fucked up royally they would actually get an informal warning in the form of a stern scolding, just some reminding that he should be diligent, tell the truth, comply with the process etc

I know these are all grownups but i still would have expected Bennett to kind of treat Greer like an impertinent child or irresponsible teenager, instead he just reprimanded him briefly.

I am not even saying that Bennett wasn't strict enough, he obviously told Greer off and even just casually baited him into revoking his ifp status, hell, long term some scolding would actually have benefitted Greer.
I would have expected him to lash out and get very irritated and angry towards Greer

 

[SCRAM]

Bro didn't actually eat a sitewide permaban for this, did he?

He should. Fedposting is bad enough, but specifically on a thread where the site is involved in a lawsuit is beyond dumb.

Glad the hearing went well. Should be an interesting month or two as a result. I'm sure we'll see Greer file more motions. Five bucks on "I am actually IFP I didn't know what I was saying."

Seems like most of his answers were "I don't know, I didn't understand, I can't find it... Etc."

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Bro didn't actually eat a sitewide permaban for this, did he?

Seemingly not.

 

[ShinyStar]

Russ should sue his previous counsel for malpractice, abandonment, promissory estoppel, and emotional distress. Damages are all the costs and sanctions he has to pay, plus any amount necessary for his emotional recovery (a weekend with Vegas hookers).

This is real legal advice and I am offering it to Russ pro bono (hi Russ!)

I think he could make a reasonable argument that those lawyers committed malpractice. They only planned on working for him through the appeal, but rather than focus on zealously advocating for their client, they completely failed to argue for any of the causes of action that Russ really cared about, or could provide evidence or argument in support of. Yes, they were only interested in the copyright stuff, but when they took Russ as a client, they accepted the obligation to put his interests above their own, and they clearly didn't do that. If there were still a defamation or false light claim still in there, Russ might not be staring down the barrel of complete dismissal of his case right now.

 

[Null]

The stuff about sanctioning the Farms outright makes me angry

he's warning that if we were to leak documents to the forum (as Russel has continuously alleged) that would be a crime. that's not sanctions against the forum. He was reassuring Russel that court does in fact have rules for both sides, regardless of his feelings.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

He has a job.

He certainly says he does when he's late or doesnt want to attend meet and confers or zoom court

 

[AnOminous]

If the case is dismissed, do you think is it likely to be with prejudice?

I think it depends on why. If it's personal jurisdiction, maybe not. That said, I'm not going into that because the lack of personal jurisdiction would have had a lot to do with Russhole's own stupidity and gamesmanship.

I'm not seeing a dismissal without prejudice, and even if it's nominally without prejudice, other issues would seem to bar just refiling.

He probably collects SS and some kind of disability because he's a filthy fucking rat

He doesn't. Possibly the only positive attribute of Russ is he actually usually has a job and earns his own money. He is not a tard bucks getter.

 

[Null]

If you're asking about prejudice, you should be asking a more important question first

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

As the thread's negative Nancy, I admit the $1000+$400 Russtard now has to pay up and that dismissal is still on the table is nice. But I still just see a lot of blustering, which we've already gone through, and hand-holding for Russ. The stuff about sanctioning the Farms outright makes me angry- we have never posted anything that wasn't publicly avaliable and that the judge even said that tells me he still believes Shit Lip's bullshit on some level. I also fail to see the giving Russell time to submit the failed restraining order as anything good- it just gives Russell an out from facing punishment for his fuckery. Everything really good is still to be decided later, the case still drags on with little actual movement, nothing ever happens.

In short: GIVE ME MOAR YOU CUCK JUDGE

If you think that today's hearing was as anything but reasonable, appropriate, and just, you are lost.

Stop being such a personally thin-skinned twerp. The comment wasn't about the Farms, specifically. It was a warning to ANY asshole who might decide to do something stupid. Null characterized it correctly above.

 

[Napoleon III]

As the thread's negative Nancy, I admit the $1000+$400 Russtard now has to pay up and that dismissal is still on the table is nice. But I still just see a lot of blustering, which we've already gone through, and hand-holding for Russ. The stuff about sanctioning the Farms outright makes me angry- we have never posted anything that wasn't publicly avaliable and that the judge even said that tells me he still believes Shit Lip's bullshit on some level. I also fail to see the giving Russell time to submit the failed restraining order as anything good- it just gives Russell an out from facing punishment for his fuckery. Everything really good is still to be decided later, the case still drags on with little actual movement, nothing ever happens.

This is normal and usual as SPO means STANDARD protective order, it is perfectly reasonable for a litigant to share information that they don't want the public viewing but is required for a lawsuit. A perfect example would be something like an embarrassing medical diagnosis.

Also there is something that is often forgotten in this thread which is when you are someone in a position of power/influence you have to act or speak in a certain way that doesn't reveal your true opinions/impressions. Dealing with even normal people in an adversarial position is difficult and doubly so for dealing with a retard like Greer.

The Judge basically knows that nothing under a SPO has been leaked to the farms by Hardin, otherwise Hardin would have been sanctioned for doing so. But the easiest way to deal with Greer and to get him to comply is simply to tell him "do this and if the SPO is violated then they will be punished".

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

He doesn't. Possibly the only positive attribute of Russ is he actually usually has a job and earns his own money. He is not a tard bucks getter.

The sanction's still going to eat into his whore budget... provided he isn't completely blacklisted by every prostitute in a thirty mile radius.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

he's warning that if we were to leak documents to the forum (as Russel has continuously alleged) that would be a crime. that's not sanctions against the forum. He was reassuring Russel that court does in fact have rules for both sides, regardless of his feelings.

The comment wasn't about the Farms, specifically. It was a warning to ANY asshole who might decide to do something stupid. Null characterized it correctly above.

Yes, but why would he feel the need to do that when 1) he has no reasonable basis to think that would even be a thing Null, Hardin, or anyone else on the Farms would possibly do beyond Russell's accusations and Plight 'Splaining and 2) we already went through the whole SPO debacle and if anything it made Russell worse. How is he is still not at the stage of realizing that it's better to leave some of Russell's whining well enough alone, on an issue that he has the discretion to not address?

Stop being such a personally thin-skinned twerp.

Never.