Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Russell (who is "homeless" and broke)

Who claimed to be homeless and broke. For all we know that was one big snowjob by Rusty.

Seriously, given how much he literally lied through his teeth at the hearing today, we shouldn't take anything he says at face value without objective, verifiable fact. Everything he says and does should be severely scrutinized.

 

[DavidS877]

For the sake of this case, he is no longer a pro se (self represented) plaintiff, and has a real stakes in the game now.

Wrong term.
Still pro se. Not In forma pauperis, aka "poor". At least for this case.

 

[Vect]

Still pro se. Not In forma pauperis, aka "poor". At least for this case.

Sorry, corrected it.

 

[GrandDriveAuto]

Wrong term.
Still pro se. Not In forma pauperis, aka "poor". At least for this case.

Is he suing anybody else at the moment? I thought he only had a failed intervention on that hooker sex trafficking suit

 

[Pedophobe]

My personal favourite was Greer pulling out the classic "I don't know how to access my filings, ya honor" retard card.

"I only have limited space on my phone" and "that was a typo" were good too.

I have a restraining order?
No, application denied!

When Hardin first mentioned russtard I thought he meant the plaintiff for a split-second.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

With the dismissal under consideration and India/Pakistan going off this is going to be an exciting photo-finish for the "Will the world end before this case?" question.

 

[DavidS877]

Is he suing anybody else at the moment? I thought he only had a failed intervention on that hooker sex trafficking suit

Not that I'm aware of. IFP doesn't automatically carry to another case. If he files IFP again for a new case now that he's agreed that he can pay it's likely the next lawyer that gets stuck dealing with him can point at this case, even in a different court and request an examination of his finances. It's not as good as a dismissal, but it's good for other people. (Our local lawyers will be along shortly to yell at me and tell me I'm wrong.)

 

[Harvey Danger]

I also don't think he'll go after the Restraining Order himself. Too much work.

I think he'll fill out whatever initial form is required, and it'll get rejected because he screwed something up. Then he'll protest to the court that he can't get the doc at all. The dumb clerk didn't do the work for him, he doesn't have the data they're asking because his laptop burned down, he doesn't know how to fix the issue, and Plaintiff Is Honestly Doing His Best.

 

[joebobmurphy]

There's something seriously wrong with moon be needs to be stopped.

Will Russtard succeed where so many have failed? Find out on the next episode of Niggerball Z!

G: H will latch on to words I say

No shit, retard. It’s not like he can read your pea brain.

It's really clear to me that Greer does this Randall thing where he tries to become an incomprehensible burden to anyone getting in the way of what he wants, and is a total suckup to anyone who can give him what he wants

lol, Recess. Eat Finster snatch, drooly.

Also, everyone stop upsetting UM. I can only buy him so many rounds of unlimited breadsticks to keep him cool.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I think he'll fill out whatever initial form is required, and it'll get rejected because he screwed something up. Then he'll protest to the court that he can't get the doc at all. The dumb clerk didn't do the work for him, he doesn't have the data they're asking because his laptop burned down, he doesn't know how to fix the issue, and Plaintiff Is Honestly Doing His Best.

From the way the judge addressed the issue, I have no doubt that shit won't fly.

 

[DavidS877]

Funniest possible outcome: Greer decides he's done, doesn't want to pay the $405, doesn't want to get the application for the restraining order. Court sanctions him for the fees to Hardin and then adds $405 to the court anyway because they can under FRCP 11 c 4

 

[Napoleon III]

People laugh and it is funny to a point, but I've gotten kind of disgusted over this case and what it represents as time goes on.

I enjoyed this case more in the beginning, when it seemed like it was just a matter of time for the Judge to see that Russ is completely retarded and this case should be dismissed. Then that didn't happen repeatedly and it was certainly depressing which is why whenever this case slows down and Josh has to pay less I'm happy even though it is less funny things happening.

The legal systems is extremely broken and there is nothing any of us can do about it.

B: Not opposed to motion to stay. Motion to stay granted until dismiss is adjudicated.

This is a big chunk of legal fees that Null doesn't have to pay.

The court now has the option of dismissing on at least three valid grounds, or could wait for the briefing on the motion to dismiss (itself raising multiple grounds) in order to dismiss it on any or all of them. This would make it virtually unappealable since Russ would then have to win on every single one on appeal.

That was my thought too. This is essentially the court saying that "You have one last chance to do what you are supposed or this is all over"

Also worth mentioning Hardin was not fighting the Judge nearly as much this time and in fact seemed to get along near perfectly. This is a shift from the last hearing where the Judge and Hardin seemed to disagree a bit.

I think there is something in that application that is a major problem for him

He is certainly acting like it. On the other hand it could just be he doesn't want it ending up on the farms because he will be made fun of.

Judge tells confidential stuff not to show up on the farms or the Holy Armies of Justice will come for you.

He could contest it the marking, but that seems silly given that the Judge ordered it.

Hardin has no reason to oppose this honestly because he got what he wanted. Sure it would be nice to be able to laugh at Greer's retarded RO but on the other hand, the SPO does exist for a reason, and it is more important that Null win this case.

Status report on this within 21 days from Hardin, can discuss fees then. Not just fees, rule 37b sanctions (case termination).

Excellent that the judge is possibly allowing case termination as a result of this. It is a way to allow for lesser punishment while leaving the possibility of more severe punishment.

Judge very quickly said "Great! I am ordering you to start paying fees!". The Judge also sounded incredibly happy as he said it. He didn't even wait a millisecond after Greer's answer.

It is such an easy way to resolve IFP status. No looking into financial records, just pay or there will be consequences.

Even when you have an IFP/pro se plaintiff and a pro se defendant, the plaintiff still has the burden of proof, and judges are frankly more likely to be accommodating to pro se defendants than they are to pro se plaintiffs, especially if those defendants aren't obviously acting in bad faith.

The problem is Null can't represent Lolcow LLC, because you have to be a lawyer to do so.

I hope Russ posts the $402 filing fee and then the judge dismisses it on the merits.

This is a pretty good reason to look for an out in this case. Of course Greer rarely makes good correct strategic decisions.

Who claimed to be homeless and broke. For all we know that was one big snowjob by Rusty.

Greer does consider hookers to be part of his basic needs for survival.

 

[Swole McPole]

I'm surprised that Hardin doesn't bring up to the Judge that Greer is a qualified paralegal, as I doubt the Judge realises this.

Greer might have been given the piece of paper but the fact that he doesn't have a job kinda shows that letting him pass the course was just a token affirmative gesture to a retarded mong.

If you're anything close to competent, I'm betting there's a dire shortage of good qualified paralegals. Russell drives for Doordash and subsists on sub-minwage and tips.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

There are no fewer than three matters under advisement that could result in a dismissal.

If the case is dismissed, do you think is it likely to be with prejudice?

He already ignored one motion to compel, so there might be. Maybe it's full of blatant lies.

Maybe? I'd say it's a given. There's something in there that he wants to keep from the judge.

I wonder how well Russell will sleep tonight. I'm sure the trauma lumps won't help.

 

[DavidS877]

If the case is dismissed, do you think is it likely to be with prejudice?

The statute of limitations has expired. All dismissals are effectively with prejudice. (This is not legal advice, contact a competent lawyer like that Rekieta guy.)

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Also, everyone stop upsetting UM. I can only buy him so many rounds of unlimited breadsticks to keep him cool.

I feel obligated to mention that despite the implication, he has not bought me even a single breadstick.

 

[thebigdream]

If I was a betting man, I'd say that Shitlips won't pay the filing fee and will instead try to claim that he misspoke about his ability to pay, or retardedly thought he had more money than he actually does, and that he's still deserving of IFP status. Seeing how the judge treated him today, and how this meeting was meant to resolve a whole bunch of outstanding issues, I can't see them taking that kindly.

 

[FatMan]

Does the tard's response to 274 have a 28 day deadline?... making it due on the 12th?

 

[ButWhyTho]

If you're anything close to competent, I'm betting there's a dire shortage of good qualified paralegals. Russell drives for Doordash and subsists on sub-minwage and tips.

He probably collects SS and some kind of disability because he's a filthy fucking rat

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Does the tard's response to 274 have a 28 day deadline?... making it due on the 12th?

That's what Russ believes. I'm not sure that it works that exact way, but the Judge seemed to also humor it

He probably collects SS and some kind of disability because he's a filthy fucking rat

He has a job.