Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Jacknife]

Once the judgement is approved Hardin can likely file for a debtors exam to find this stuff out if Greer fails to pay or agree to a payment plan before any deadline the court gives.

I just hope Null can seize all his garbage intellectual properties

 

[East_Clintwood]

I'm curious as to his motivation for not accepting payment.

It's because the deposition quickly became moot when Greer stipulated that the witnesses didn't actually have any relevant testimony, and so would not be deposed.

 

[Breadbassket]

This is all very legally meandering.

 

[obsdj]

Once the judgement is approved Hardin can likely file for a debtors exam to find this stuff out if Greer fails to pay or agree to a payment plan before any deadline the court gives.

Can Hardin get ALL of Greer's financial accounts including Venmo, PayPal, CashApp, etc. wherein he might be hiding stray dollars separate from whatever normal bank account he has?

There isn't an order yet.

Well the Jan. 14th order does order Greer "to pay Defendants’ reasonable expenses, including attorney’s fees, caused by this nondisclosure." Of course, he has objected to that order, but now he's just straight up declaring that he will not pay regardless.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Kiwi Farms is now a website, a hardship, and a billable legal specialty.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Listen here buddy boys (buddies boy?), Greer was just being a shock jock when he told Hardin he wasn't paying a dime. Besides, he's already moved on past the whole "sanctions" thing, why can't Hardin? Why does Hardin have to undig everything? This just isn't fair.

 

[UncleTusky]

Can Hardin get ALL of Greer's financial accounts including Venmo, PayPal, CashApp, etc. wherein he might be hiding stray dollars separate from whatever normal bank account he has?

Yes and trying to avoid paying by opening new accounts or moving money around would be punished harshly. If it's Crusty Rusty's money, it's fair game; there are exceptions (e.g. Social Security income, not going to help the tard by listing more) but I cannot imagine any of them would apply to him.

That said there are upper limits on how much Hardin could take, both up-front and through garnishment.

 

[Directing]

How much of shitlip's monthly tugboat can Hardin collect?

AFAIK he doesn't get any kind of tugboat and lives solely off his income as an Uber/delivery driver.

 

[Friedchickenfan]

I’ll slip 20 bucks to Greer to help pay dear feeder if he uploads a video trying to drink out of a straw.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

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Kiwi Farms is now a website, a hardship, and a billable legal specialty.

The evolution of the idea is in progress. One day Kiwi Farms will become a small office, then a large business, then a political movement, then a government, then a unified front against aliens domestic and intergalactic, then the universal monolith, then toppled and forgotten. Just think. You got in on the ground floor. Praise Slobbermutt and his loyal lawyer.

 

[Null]

@Null

hey boss where did you find Hardin anyway?

It's not like there are just yellow pages full of lawyers that say "yes I have a spine and will fight for people rights even if it's not currently socially fashionable."

Via Barnes via Rekieta. Yes, really. He was making the rounds in the news as a FOIA attorney from Virginia and that made him the only Virginia attorney they knew.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Via Barnes via Rekieta. Yes, really. He was making the rounds in the news as a FOIA attorney from Virginia and that made him the only Virginia attorney they knew.

Look at that! Even Barnes and Rekieta can be useful sometimes!

 

[obsdj]

Yes and trying to avoid paying by opening new accounts or moving money around would be punished harshly. If it's Crusty Rusty's money, it's fair game; there are exceptions (e.g. Social Security income, not going to help the tard by listing more) but I cannot imagine any of them would apply to him.

Good, because we know at the very least he has Venmo (from all his solicitations of Instathots).

The evolution of the idea is in progress. One day Kiwi Farms will become a small office, then a large business, then a political movement, then a government, then a unified front against aliens domestic and intergalactic, then the universal monolith, then toppled and forgotten. Just think. You got in on the ground floor. Praise Slobbermutt and his loyal lawyer.

It's like a lost Isaac Asimov story. Chills.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Good, because we know at the very least he has Venmo (from all his solicitations of Instathots).



It's like a lost Isaac Asimov story. Chills.

Mr. Moon does forecast doom while being optimistic, like a certain psychohistorian.

 

[RodgerDodger]

He is allowed to think that.

It's been ajudicated and ruled on. He's been informed of this. Hardin did not violate the SPO. This is just more deliberate failure to comply from Greer.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

Look at that! Even Barnes and Rekieta can be useful sometimes!

God does indeed move in mysterious ways

 

[RodgerDodger]

He does have a car though that can be repo'd

We're pretty sure that's a rental provided by uber/Uber eats.

 

[AnOminous]

and reading the phrase "The total amount reflected as being due as of this moment is $5,559.76" warmed my heart and made me feel better.

This is an indirect reference to the fact that pre- and/or post-judgment interest may be accruing and if so, will continue to accrue, as well as that future RECALCITRANCE by Russhole for filing increasingly vexatious and meritless appeals is only going to make my penis harder the judgment larger.

Well the Jan. 14th order does order Greer "to pay Defendants’ reasonable expenses, including attorney’s fees, caused by this nondisclosure." Of course, he has objected to that order, but now he's just straight up declaring that he will not pay regardless.

There's a procedure to go through, though, before it's an enforceable order. So until and unless there's a final order for Russhole to pay $0.10 or more, he isn't in contempt of it.

Didn't Carpenter hold that "disclosure orders adverse to the attorney-client privilege" do not "qualify for immediate appeal under the collateral order doctrine" because "postjudgment appeals, together with other review mechanisms, suffice to protect the rights of litigants and preserve the vitality of the attorney-client privilege"?

That's why I phrased it the way I did. The actual disclosure order itself is (generally) not subject to appeal. However, under certain circumstances, the sanctions order for failure to comply with it may be. So you can file a mandamus or whatever long shot (like a petition for a writ of writtiness under the All-Writs Act in the nature of some abolished common law writ in Latin nobody has seen in a century) on the order itself, or more often, fall on your sword for your client and defy the order, then appeal the sanctions order itself.

Note this is specifically for privilege-related sanctions. For obvious reasons, I'm not going to discuss vanilla discovery sanctions in any detail.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

5k is also more than greer ever would have earned from his copyrights in the mind of any reasonable person (i.e. not his own)

but it's gonna be a lot higher the way this is going. When you start to appeal the fees, you had better fucking win. Courts do not like this one neat trick.

Because the recovery that Crusty can expect from this case is insignificant compared what he currently owes can the court decide that Greer's case is essentially moot?

 

[N Space]

Lawyers really do suck at math.
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I doubled checked Hardin's math on the total billing and Greer actually owes $300 more. @Null may want to get that amended quickly.

Slipplin' Jimmy tampered with his files