Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Yandex Captcha Solver]

Lawyers really do suck at math.

I doubled checked Hardin's math on the total billing and Greer actually owes $300 more. @Null may want to get that amended quickly.

 

[obsdj]

Greer is gonna appeal the sanctions award to the ADMIRALTY COURT! It's fucking over bros!

Oh shit, nobody checked whether the Magistrate's courtroom flag has a gold fringe? FUCK, we are FUCKED, FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

 

[Napoleon III]

My retarded take is that Hardin is reading the room. This is a Pro Se retard doing stupid shit. The court is required to sanction him by rule so Hardin comes in with a reasonable and justified number that's not likely to be reduced.

I'll also note his Supplemental Declaration contains a detailed explanation of what the fees and costs were for, as well as an invoice detailing each line item with specificity, most of them for less than an hour, with no sloppy "block billing" that can result in a lowering of the award.

I'm led to believe Hardin thought of the possibility of Greer saying "I'm not paying a dime". Hardin by trying to be as reasonable and fair as possible is requiring the court to use a little of its authority for Null's benefit as possible.

This issue right here could be the thing that ends the entire case. If Greer won't ever pay anything and relies on magical thinking to save himself then this very issue will be the end.

Hardin also now knows what the Judge wants and how he wants it done. He is much more able to get what he wants out of the judge. Greer has been backed into a corner and it is time to press the advantage.

 

[Vect]

He only used the copyright angle to get it into Federal court with all his other KF sperging. Now that has all been tossed it's all he has left.

I'm aware, but he seems to have completely forgotten what his own suite is about. Now it's 'I'm a poor little retard, don't hurt me, KIWI FARMS IS THE HARDSHIP'.

I'm guessing you can't do what they do in Australia, where the winning party can make the losing one sell their house and everything they own if they owe costs.

 

[UncleTusky]

And does he have an automatic right to appeal the costs order against him, or can the courts just say 'We think your grounds for appealing are retarded. Fuck off and get back to Door Dash because you need to pay that man his money!'

He has the right to appeal, including review by the district judge or even 10th circuit and a written explanation from the judge(s) reviewing his filing of why his appeal has/lacks merit.

That said, appealing Hardin's fees would not pause the rest of this case and the judge(s) do not have to grant oral argument - the appeal would just proceed in tandem with the rest of the proceedings and could end with the judge(s) going 'lol no'.

ETA:

Hardin also now knows what the Judge wants and how he wants it done. He is much more able to get what he wants out of the judge. Greer has been backed into a corner and it is time to press the advantage.

I disagree: The judge wants a speedy resolution on the merits, even though he's dropping hints that he knows this is a vexatious suit. Hardin has cracked the code for getting discovery sanctions but not for ending this case before close of discovery (which Rusty is dragging out) or even granting a motion to exclude (never mind that Russ has given Hardin all the ammo he needs for one).

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Greer is gonna appeal the sanctions award to the ADMIRALTY COURT! It's fucking over bros!

He can't appeal to the Admirality court because he is not an admiral. I, however, by virtue of Stolen Valor am, and therefore I will hear his case.

 

[ZipDisk]

I really wish Hardin could text back

PAY MOON

I hate how Russ keeps acting like he's texting a neighbor instead of an opponent.

Hardin should be allowed to burn down East Twain,
Or have the bailiff kick Greer in the face. Not like it would damage anything.

 

[AnOminous]

And 'my trial happens today and there will be blood.' I thought they were obviously rhetorical bombast and no sensible person would regard them as actual threats. Judge felt the exact opposite and made Russell grovel in apology.

Maybe if a normal person said that it wouldn't be threatening, but when a sex-obsessed delusional celebrity stalker engaging in vexatious litigation says it, it's the sort of thing that would get Gavin de Becker's attention.

 

[East_Clintwood]

He can't appeal to the Admirality court because he is not an admiral. I, however, by virtue of Stolen Valor am, and therefore I will hear his case.

Post flag with gold fringe to prove it.

 

[King of Racism]

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The email informing Hardin he's paid his sanctions is going to be signed "Sent from my Tracfone".

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

@Null

hey boss where did you find Hardin anyway?

It's not like there are just yellow pages full of lawyers that say "yes I have a spine and will fight for people rights even if it's not currently socially fashionable."

 

[Bogliacci]

@Null

hey boss where did you find Hardin anyway?

It's not like there are just yellow pages full of lawyers that say "yes I have a spine and will fight for people rights even if it's not currently socially fashionable."

Actually there are many lawyers that will do whatever if you pay them. Hardin isn't doing this for free.

It's that his rates are so reasonable and his general attitude that we've been told about that make him special.

 

[lol cow supreme]

@Null

hey boss where did you find Hardin anyway?

It's not like there are just yellow pages full of lawyers that say "yes I have a spine and will fight for people rights even if it's not currently socially fashionable."

Some youtube lawyer guy. you prob never heard of him so I wont bother naming him.

 

[ScooterL]

Russell gets a chance to learn that pointless litigation will cost him money.
Instantly responds with a threat of yet more pointless litigation.

Classic lolcow inability to learn the lesson. Never change, Russell, never change - because apparently, you can't.

5k is an amount that even a pretty poor working person can scrape together, especially with a payment plan.

5k is only 1.25 trips to Olive Garden with a whore who's smart enough not to let Russell touch her.

 

[ConSluttant]

Russell gets a chance to learn that pointless litigation will cost him money.
Instantly responds with a threat of yet more pointless litigation.

Classic lolcow inability to learn the lesson. Never change, Russell, never change - because apparently, you can't.


5k is only 1.25 trips to Olive Garden with a whore who's smart enough not to let Russell touch her.

Sooo that means Russ will work three jobs for the next five years in order to PAY NOOL. Got it!

 

[Pee Cola]

Greer, if you're reading this, recall the happiness you felt when you won the appeal in the 10th Circuit. That victory led to this 5K invoice, which will likely continue to increase from now on.

That 10th Circuit appeal win turned out to be a big ol' monkey paw, didn't it?


The way I read this, Russhole's dad returned his appearance fee check to Hardin without cashing it.

I'm curious as to his motivation for not accepting payment. I'd like to think he sent it back because he felt bad about how his complete fuck-up of a son caused Hardin so much extra work, but it could just as easily be a "fuck you, Buddy Boy" to Hardin and Null.

No, no... dig UP, Russhole!

Oh, and massive big-ups to Hardin for giving Null what amounts to mates rates. He's a real one.

 

[RussianParasite]

I sense a significant bout of recalcitrance is incoming from Mr. Greer no matter how painstakingly the magistrate or district judge explain why he in fact did not fully comply with the discovery rules.

I am actually curious. How many times could Russ in theory keep appealing until he is forced to pay by the court? Could we have this case go on another 4-5 years? Also, are there any mechanisms to make him pay? It seems that he is a broke, gimpy-faced retard to I’m not sure how much he can actually pay. Would he face jail for refusing?

I guess what I’m getting at here is if I ever found myself staring down a court judgement could I just sperg about my plights for years and years?

 

[AnOminous]

I'm curious as to his motivation for not accepting payment. I'd like to think he sent it back because he felt bad about how his complete fuck-up of a son caused Hardin so much extra work, but it could just as easily be a "fuck you, Buddy Boy" to Hardin and Null.

It would be a pretty rash move to cash a $40 subpoena check and then not show up.

It would eliminate any conceivable defense that you never got the subpoena or didn't know you had to show up.

So if you're intending to blow off a subpoena for any reason do NOT cash the check.

 

[Bogliacci]

I want to see Russ pull a Tomlinson and turn that 5k into something like 30k.

 

[DavidS877]

I am actually curious. How many times could Russ in theory keep appealing until he is forced to pay by the court? Could we have this case go on another 4-5 years? Also, are there any mechanisms to make him pay? It seems that he is a broke, gimpy-faced retard to I’m not sure how much he can actually pay. Would he face jail for refusing?

I guess what I’m getting at here is if I ever found myself staring down a court judgement could I just sperg about my plights for years and years?

District Court(already filed), Circuit Court, Circuit Court En Banc, Supreme Court, Supreme Court Rehearing.
So, we're still in the first 1/3 of this case or so.