Pedophiles are Weird - I don’t get it

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

I’m not really into black chicks but I can appreciate why some men are. The same goes with red heads, Arabs, etc.. Tangentially, I presume rapists have a “thief” mentality which is deplorable but can be understood to a certain extent. At the other end of the spectrum I don’t really understand the motivations of a pedophile, or why the would find children attractive in the first place. It seems weird to me. Like they’re just evil. Personally, I’m okay with having a limited knowledge on this topic (“The knowledge of wickedness is not wisdom”) but I wonder what Kiwifarms thinks - is it weird and evil?

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

I have a schizotheory about this topic, namely: pedophilia is not a sexual orientation or attraction, it is an expression of psychopathy.

I suggest pedophilia is a behaviour of people who have the psychopatic personality disorder, not so much a condition on its own. Psychopathy being defined as a lack of empathy combined with high levels of self-interest and dislike for society as a whole (some people distinguish between psychopathy and sociopathy but imo that is not necessary).

Criminal profiler Pat Brown suggested that Munchhausen By Proxy is similar, a behaviour that some (mostly female) psychopaths display, rather than a unique condition - because all women who Munch their kids/grandparents/patients into illness or into death also display psychopathic traits. In essence, all pedophiles are psychopaths, but not all psychopaths are pedophiles. Psychopaths display their psychopathy in different ways: some become serial killers/rapists, some become CEOs, some become controlling husbands who make their family miserable and maybe one day kill their wife, some are women who manipulate their boyfriend into hurting others for their own amusement, some are women who Munch their kids to death. These are all expressions of psychopathy, an inherent lack of empathy and hate for society, that was there first. In order to rape children, you need to have a complete lack of empathy and disregard for consequences, for the victim, society, and even for yourself.

Normal people generally struggle to understand psychopaths because they are not psychopaths, which is why pedophilia makes so little sense to normal people. I don't think pedos necessarily find children attractive the way a normal person would find an love interest attractive. It's just that children and their innocence have become their fixation, and in a psychopath's logic if he wants something, he'll do what he can to get it. It's also considered pretty much the worst thing you can do, so they just get a kick out of breaking the rules.

 

[Helvítis Túristi]

At the other end of the spectrum I don’t really understand the motivations of a pedophile, or why the would find children attractive in the first place.

pedophilia is not a sexual orientation or attraction, it is an expression of psychopathy.

It's obvious that it's not a sexual orientation as you can chemically or physically castrate them, and they will still target kids. We also know that different regions of the brain activate when they view children and it's not the same region that people have when they see someone attractive. You could say that there is nothing sexual even about it, just the desire to do harm like @The Skeksis Emperor said.

 

[Big Brutus]

The only people who think pedophilia is normal or acceptable are pedophiles, and pedophiles aren't people so they should be denied any treatment even remotely humanistic.

Every single time I see a pedophile get outted on here, a part of me wishes that some good fellow here would goad them into livestreaming their own death at the end of a noose.

 

[Turquoise]

@The Skeksis Emperor

A kid from my neighborhood who I grew up with has failed several hard drive checks over the years. He was a weirdo and a bully. And he stunk. Psychopath theory checks out.

 

[Big Brutus]

Tangentially, I presume rapists have a “thief” mentality which is deplorable but can be understood to a certain extent.

Rape is about power and control. A rapist takes their personal gratification in depriving their victim of any choice or free will in the ordeal. It's basically domination taken to the highest extreme. This is why, unlike pedophilia, rapists have established types often based on a specific sexuality.

At the other end of the spectrum I don’t really understand the motivations of a pedophile, or why the would find children attractive in the first place. It seems weird to me. Like they’re just evil.

Pedophilia is about ruining innocence and youth. The allure to the pedophile is the concept of taking what is otherwise a wholesome, cherished time in a person's life, and corrupting it at that person's expense. This is why pedophiles are often all over the place when it comes to the specifics of their victims.

This is all to say that when you dive into the psychology of the matter, psychoanalyzing the differences in the two, you understand two things: one, there is a deep reason why everyone in prison hates pedophiles; two, you can't get any more "manmade horrors beyond comprehension" vibes than from someone who predates against children.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Hurting kids is evil, no debate to be had. As for weird, depends on the group, it's pretty normal to LGBT.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

Fundamentally I think Thomas Aquinas was right that the deepest essence of christian belief is the belief that there is something purely good/virtuous, and then to call that God.

People can drive themselves towards virtue/good in the same way they can drive themselves towards evil. And can you think of anything more evil than harming the most vulnerable for nothing more than a quick hit of pleasure? There's a reason that even criminals consider them the worst scum. They may have embezzled, blackmailed, stolen, murdered, tortured, terrorised, but there's still the next step where they decided to harm a woman or child for no other reason than a quick sexual desire and that's why the men who engage in this are justifiably pariahs among criminals in jail. Where the only friends pedos can make are other scum of the earth deviants.

Like hurting or killing pedophiles and rapists in jail is a way to build up cred, and not doing so when you have the opportunity is a way to lose it.

So with the extreme degree to which it is taboo and unaccepted, someone has to be doubly evil for still engaging in it. Which means that for some, that itself is its draw. Doing it is one of the ultimate "fuck the world" statements, and getting away with it is one of the ultimate "I'm better than all of you" statements. All of this is why it's such a good entrapment for blackmail outfits like Epstein ran. It offers the allure of experiencing power, while actually getting blackmail against you that can destroy you forever.

And even without the blackmail, it's a way to vet others and see if they're sociopathic enough to do whatever it takes. It's like an extreme version of "taking this line of coke" or "shoot this guy" to weed out the weak-willed police infiltrators.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

Being attracted to a child is weird to the core. A childs body is literally the most unsexual thing possible. Even young boys crush on adult women. So why would a man ever be attracted to an undeveloped child? Same for any gender pedo.

 

[User names must be unique]

I have a schizotheory about this topic, namely: pedophilia is not a sexual orientation or attraction, it is an expression of psychopathy.

My rational soyance backed schizoid hypothesis is they're people who get turned on by their own disgust.

There is a documented link between disgust and arousal, generally as arousal goes up the ability to feel disgust diminishes I think everyone inherently knows this too. I declare that for some people that the link is broken and in situations where disgust is the rational reaction these deviants instead feel arousal. The most immediate and conclusive evidence i have to support my hypothesis is the varied and disgusting fetishes of autistic people, who by definition are people unable to process their own emotions correctly.

I call this the unified degenerate theory as it explains every form of degeneracy from Anilingus to Zoophilia.

 

[Calandrino]

It's very weird tbh. More universally taboo that cannibalism, human sacrifice, driving needles through your own foreskin whilst tripped the fuck out on shrooms, stoning women for getting raped, drinking your own piss, etc. Pretty much the weirdest thing that people have been known to do. Pedophiles are certified weirdos, for sure.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I have a schizotheory about this topic, namely: pedophilia is not a sexual orientation or attraction, it is an expression of psychopathy.

Criminologists view pedophiles in a similar way as serial killers: they obsess and stalk prey, strike, discard, and then do it again.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

Are pedos with a higher age range of 15-17 the same type of psychopath as pedos into younger kids? Usually I refuse to acknowledge any difference as they are all pedos who all equally deserve to be shot, but I think yall understand I'm not insinuating one is better than the other.
I have seen asshole men who have sex with adult women but don't have an issue having sex with a teenager.

 

[Cybork]

Pedophiles are evil and should be treated as evil. First off, it's not sex. It's torture. Do you know what happens to children who have sex before their bodies develop during puberty? They bleed. Boys bleed instead of ejaculate and girl's vaginas and uterus scars. Sometimes to the point of them becoming infertile in more serious cases of sexual abuse. These fucking demons want to convince people it's a sexual attraction and just sex but it's not. A child is not physically or emotionally ready for sexual relationships. It's not just the body which needs to mature, but the brain too. The erotic zones in the brain don't fully develop until puberty. A child tortured by a pedophile will have mental problems around sexuality for the rest of their lives from these erotic brain regions getting activated too early. Robbing them of important milestones in social and romantic development.

100 years ago, before rich greedy fucks filled the world with microplastics and other sex hormone analogs, women used to menstruate first when reaching the age of 17. Exposure to these harmful chemicals also probably induce men to become coomers earlier too.

Pedophiles should be aggressively hunted and legally, permanently, removed from society. The destruction they inflict on their victims, and their communities is immeasurable. They are actual demons and don't deserve to be treated like humans or given any human rights.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

100 years ago, before rich greedy fucks filled the world with microplastics and other sex hormone analogs, women used to menstruate first when reaching the age of 17.

Y'know this brings up a question that I think is important. So if 17 was the average 100 years ago, what was the average for the first menstruation for centuries? For millennia? Because people had to marry young back then due to increased risk of mortality from illness and childbirth among other natural disasters. Do we have any information on that, or is this a more recent study since the 20th century? I figured that nutrition/body mass played a part in a girl getting her first period, because thanks to childhood obesity, you're hearing of more and more girls getting puberty in their single digit years now, and even back in the '90s some girls got it young (had a friend in high school who said she got it when she was nine). You even had freak incidents from the '30s as evident by Lina Medina because for some reason her body was that broken.

I don't think pedophiles really want their victims to be able to give birth even though it for sure would get them off to force them to abort. The trauma from it indeed stems from the corruption of innocence, but the huge push for puberty blockers suggests pedophiles don't want children to be breeding at all since menstrual blood and semen production is "mature".

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

I have a schizotheory about this topic, namely: pedophilia is not a sexual orientation or attraction, it is an expression of psychopathy.

I theory is that broadly there are two types of pedophiles, the deluded and to the sadists.
I remember watching a documentary where they interviewed a bunch of pedophiles. One of the freaks was literally talking about making an underage boy suck him off as some kind of a magical, beautiful experience where they were deeply connected and the boy was totally into it. I think that group is so fucked in the head they legitimately don't understand or have the capacity to comprehend the evil they're doing.
The other group are just straight up monsters that want to hurt and don't care. Children are vulnerable, easy targets.

Rape is about power and control. A rapist takes their personal gratification in depriving their victim of any choice or free will in the ordeal. It's basically domination taken to the highest extreme. This is why, unlike pedophilia, rapists have established types often based on a specific sexuality.

Depends on the type of rape I guess. A violent rapists that drags you into a dark alley? Sure I can see it being about power and domination. But a dude that gets a girl wasted (or even roofies her) and when she's completely out takes her around the corner and rapes her is probably just doing it to get off.
Some people simply don't have basic human decency, empathy or care (basically sociopaths). Some people do operate on a very primitive level of "I want X how do I get X?" and will lie, cheat, manipulate, and hurt people to get it. For such a person sex is just another thing they want.

Are pedos with a higher age range of 15-17 the same type of psychopath as pedos into younger kids?

I would think so. At age 15-17 sexual development is underway, so girls have boobs, boys start developing muscle and facial hair etc. So at that point the distinction is more pronounced between boys and girls. I think (although where I heard this or if it was simply a stray thought I don't know) that pedos that go for young children are equal sex offenders, while those that go for older ones tend to go for either boys or girls.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Are pedos with a higher age range of 15-17 the same type of psychopath as pedos into younger kids? Usually I refuse to acknowledge any difference as they are all pedos who all equally deserve to be shot, but I think yall understand I'm not insinuating one is better than the other.
I have seen asshole men who have sex with adult women but don't have an issue having sex with a teenager.

Acknowledging there's a massive difference between literal baby rapists and sex with a minor months away from 18 isn't a defense of the latter, both are wrong but to wildly different degrees. You have to make that distinction because not only is it obvious and real, but pedophiles want society to water down the term, so it's only doing them a favor.

the huge push for puberty blockers suggests pedophiles don't want children to be breeding at all since menstrual blood and semen production is "mature".

The push for puberty blockers seems primarily ideological and financial, the transgender cult and big pharma both want it.

 

[crowabunga]

The thread title reminds me of this unhinged debate about torturing animals, with one participant insisting it is only "weird."

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

The thread title reminds me of this unhinged debate about torturing animals, with one participant insisting it is only "weird."

Reminds me of that The Shin’s lyric “never betray the way you’ve always known it is”(not sure if it’s a paraphrasing). It might not always be true but some of those philosophers really need it drilled into them because they come up with some inhuman shit by taking flawed premises to their logical conclusion.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

Are pedos with a higher age range of 15-17 the same type of psychopath as pedos into younger kids?

I would argue no. When I say pedophile I mean the ones abusing essentially 'sexless' beings, pre-pubescent kids, toddlers and unfortunately even babies (the latter should be publicly executed imo but sadly we live in 'enlightend' times now...)

The men who want to have sex with teenagers are creeps but they are still turned on by the sexual development of these teens. Epstein was one of those. I don't buy that 'ephebophilia is a natural thing' bullshit, but I do think we should acknowledge that an adult man perving on a 15-year old who has breasts and hips is not the same degeneracy as a dude wanting to have sex with a 7 year old or a toddler. Especially in light of what @Cybork noted, that having sex with a prepubescent child can really physically damage them.

I don't think the adult men who are attracted to teens are necessarily all psychopaths. The ones who drag some girl into the bushes and rape her, absolutely. But others are just opportunistic horndogs or selfish assholes.

One of the freaks was literally talking about making an underage boy suck him off as some kind of a magical, beautiful experience where they were deeply connected and the boy was totally into it.

Psychopaths lie incredibly easily and they're always telling stories. That said, I do wonder if this guy was someone who was molested himself as a child, and is now using this giga-cope to justify his own behaviour as well as his past abuse. Perhaps you're right and that's a second category of pedos.