Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[AnOminous]

His family now won't have to be interrogated about shit they have no knowledge about, saving them and Russ a great deal of embarrassment when he's already on thin ice with the court. AFAIA they're still expecting an explanation for his timewasting, otherwise he's due a hefty fine and/or dismissal.

Remember the whole basis for transferring this back (completely against the rules) to Utah was Russhole's lies about imaginary witnesses, which this idiot judge totally bought.

How many of these witnesses are there that were totally being inconvenienced? Literally fucking none. This clown of a judge has egg on face for buying this bullshit.

How embarrassing!

 

[Billy Bong]

The Grande case didn't take over 4 years. This one should be big, and a lesson going forward.
It cost Null and his counsel a ton of money and way too much time and the only way Russell will learn is with a stiff penalty, deservedly so.
$80085

 

[Harm]

I think Null has said how much Hardin charges per hour, I wanna say like $300.

He's said on MATI approximately how much overall he'd been billed so far a few months back, and with how many hours of work Hardin has to have already devoted, there's no way he's charging that much an hour. Can't remember precisely what he'd said, so I won't throw any specific numbers. Maybe someone with a better memory will recall which MATI it was or how much he'd said.

I remember it being a very reasonable amount considering how long the case has been ongoing.

 

[Billy Bong]

He should make it $1600 just so the sanctions for this shitshow are just a little bit more than the bill he got for the Ariana Grande retardation.

No, Null has to beat Quasi! IT IS SO ORDERED!

 

[Harvey Danger]

The Grande case didn't take over 4 years. This one should be big, and a lesson going forward.
It cost Null and his counsel a ton of money and way too much time and the only Russell will learn is with a stiff penalty, deservedly so.
$80085

Not just that, but the nominal damages need to be huge so that everyone else badmouthing the Farms takes notice.

Liz Fong-Jones repeatedly brings up that Australian case he won by the other side never showing up, and claims it's somehow "proof" of the Farms being bad. Nobody ever checks the facts of the case, but he has his headline number and posts it everywhere. Null needs to do the same, posting as big a sanction as possible, even if Russ only pays him back $5.

 

[FamicomGorby]

As far as I can tell, Hardin entered the case on November 1st 2023. There have been 151 docket entries since then. I'm not counting how many were filed by Hardin because I haven't any access to most of them and I have very limited knowledge on how this is done. But there is no way it's only been five hours especially with all the e-mail communication with Greer over the last almost 14 months he's been on the case. Plus all the times he's had to file and I assume pay to file.

Definitely not five hours for the whole case. Just that dealing with Greer's witness bullshit that the judge could award Null/Hardin due to Greer's delays and refusals to answer basic questions.

 

[Moths]

Fees are adjusted based on the financial status of the loser. See Melinda Scott only owing Null forty-something dollars in the end. If Russ has to pay fees I'd expect a similar amount.

Yes but Russel isnt poor hes an aspiring brothel entrepaneur and can take his debts like a big boy

 

[Pedophobe]

I think Hardin submitted Greer's unwarranted delays and other shenanigans with the witness stuff already amount to "thousands". And that was before the stipulation was reached.

 

[Null]

I think Hardin submitted Greer's unwarranted delays and other shenanigans with the witness stuff already amount to "thousands". And that was before the stipulation was reached.

Deposition costs were already paid.

 

[Pedophobe]

Deposition costs were already paid.

The $86 for the witnesses time and travel? What about the hours you spent trying to wrangle the plaintiff to produce the list of witnesses in the first place?

 

[filthypenguin]

Not just that, but the nominal damages need to be huge so that everyone else badmouthing the Farms takes notice.

Liz Fong-Jones repeatedly brings up that Australian case he won by the other side never showing up, and claims it's somehow "proof" of the Farms being bad. Nobody ever checks the facts of the case, but he has his headline number and posts it everywhere. Null needs to do the same, posting as big a sanction as possible, even if Russ only pays him back $5.

Meh. I don't think Josh successfully defending himself from a literal retard really shows anything beyond his willingness to defend himself if sued. Obviously if he lost it would probably be the end of the farms because every cow would sue him, but I think winning basically just puts him in the position he was before he was sued.

 

[Doctor Socrates]

I can't believe lolsuit.

By this time Monday I guarantee he will be trying to reverse this and say that Hardin tricked him.

How has Russel actually signed a piece of paper that say's he's not a witness in his own copyright explain to me

 

[Harvey Danger]

Meh. I don't think Josh successfully defending himself from a literal retard really shows anything beyond his willingness to defend himself if sued. Obviously if he lost it would probably be the end of the farms because every cow would sue him, but I think winning basically just puts him in the position he was before he was sued.

He got costs against Melissa Scott, he's probably going to get costs against Russ, and hopefully he'll get something against Acerthorn whenever that finally gets moving. He gets threats and C&D's all the time, which is when he can shut down new lawsuits. It is well worth being able to tell retards "look I've forced 3 people who sued me to pay me money, you really want to become #4?"

 

[Ted's of Beverly Hills]

How has Russel actually signed a piece of paper that say's he's not a witness in his own copyright explain to me

Maybe his brother threatened to buy a pickle costume and command every hooker in Nevada to never give shitlips any sloppy toppy again if he didn't sign it.

 

[Warm Lasagna]

How has Russel actually signed a piece of paper that say's he's not a witness in his own copyright explain to me

I miss when you were thread banned

 

[Billy Bong]

How has Russel actually signed a piece of paper that say's he's not a witness in his own copyright explain to me

Kind of like this, but larger, with less strokes. Hope this helps

 

[Irene and 22 others]

It's been said before ITT, but his view of what Hardin's role is supposed to be really does reveal that, despite claiming a paralegal degree, he views the legal system as the public school system he's supposed to run and tattle to in order to force the other kid to be nice to him.

Just out of curiosity could Hardin request a competency hearing for Greer to see if he's fit to stand at trial? Even if he could, I don't think any judge would grant such a request, as much as they might think Russ may deserve it.

So that was all just a giant waste of time, court resources, and $84?

Seems rather like a microcosm of the entire lawsuit.

Doesnt this mean that he cant even testify on his own suit?

I think that actually plays in Greer's favor.

I apologize if this is a stupid question, but why is the withdrawn subpoena a mercy for Russell?

Hardin deposing Russ or any of his family members would create a lot of milk. Even if Hardin wasn't trying to be the vindictive prick that he has every right to be at this point, Greer would be a total sperg at his deposition and his brother or father might reveal embarassing details or stories about Russ that we haven't heard before.

 

[StinkySnack]

I miss when you were thread banned

Nah, this dude’s stupidity is straight up harmless entertainment. He’s no StraightShooter2.

 

[DHugo]

I miss when you were thread banned

It's funnier if you imagine him as Russell trying to blend in and low-key solicit legal advice.

 

[lol cow supreme]

Just out of curiosity could Hardin request a competency hearing for Greer to see if he's fit to stand at trial? Even if he could, I don't think any judge would grant such a request, as much as they might think Russ may deserve it.

Russ(tard) is not standing trial, but pressing the trial. He can walk away at anytime he wants, unlike a defendant who is at the mercy of the plaintiff and the court. Someone here might be able to pull caselaw where this has come up as far as being "fit" to pursue trial. Usually mental health/state within a lawsuit context is used for things like personal injury to show anguish etc.

This would not factor into a copyright lawsuit, nor needed to assess damages for said copyright.