Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[BoomerPrime]

I can't believe Russel actually signed a piece of paper that say's he's not a witness in his own copyright lolsuit.

By this time Monday I guarantee he will be trying to reverse this and say that Hardin tricked him.

Even better than a Motion to Undo the Thing That Has Been Done is a Motion to Undo the Thing That I Already Agreed To.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

I'm confused. The stipulation is that those witnesses have no info (1), but it doesn't explicitly say they won't be testifying, just that Greer doesn't intend to call any OTHER witnesses (2). Point 3 says if he tries to call any OTHER witnesses apart from the two who have no info, the stipulation is void.

Is it tacitly understood that since those two have no info, they cannot or will not be called as witnesses? If so, it seems unwise (at least with this plaintiff) not to say so in plain language.

It seems pretty tight to me.
#1, we all agree that Nathan and Scott have no relevant information about this case whatsoever.
#2, no other witness may be called at trial, so we are limited ONLY to the witnesses which we already jointly admitted are completely pointless.
#3, if the tard tries to claim any other witnesses in any way shape or form, the court should "lolno" it instantly.
Signed, Matthew Hardin and Russel Greer. Showing the world that enemies can become friends.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I can't believe Russel actually signed a piece of paper that say's he's not a witness in his own copyright lolsuit.

By this time Monday I guarantee he will be trying to reverse this and say that Hardin tricked him.

Hardin is motherfuckin Creed right now with the sheer levels of Tactical Genius going on.

 

[East_Clintwood]

The $84 was an acceptable price for the entertainment value.

In terms of a dollars spent vs entertainment gained it's amazing value, probably only second to the AnimeSucksCopeandSneed superchat during Nick Rekieta's cokestream.

 

[Thomas Talus]

The subpoena listed in item 2 of the stipulation doesn't specify whether it's a subpoena for testimony or for documents (probably communications with witnesses). Unless I'm missing something due to not usually working in fed courts, Russ should still be able to testify/give a narrative (since he's pro se) as a party.

 

[waffle]

The subpoena listed in item 2 of the stipulation doesn't specify whether it's a subpoena for testimony or for documents (probably communications with witnesses). Unless I'm missing something due to not usually working in fed courts, Russ should still be able to testify/give a narrative (since he's pro se) as a party.

Not if he doesn't list his areas and content of expected testimony under rule 26. He has had like four years to write his narrative about how Josh and the farms infringed his copywrite so bad and has.... Nothing.

 

[GrandDriveAuto]

The subpoena listed in item 2 of the stipulation doesn't specify whether it's a subpoena for testimony or for documents (probably communications with witnesses). Unless I'm missing something due to not usually working in fed courts, Russ should still be able to testify/give a narrative (since he's pro se) as a party.

Even if so Null has already won the suit. Russ can give whatever narrative he wants, he has no evidence (be it in the form of documents or witnesses) to back up what hes saying.

 

[obsdj]

The subpoena listed in item 2 of the stipulation doesn't specify whether it's a subpoena for testimony or for documents (probably communications with witnesses). Unless I'm missing something due to not usually working in fed courts, Russ should still be able to testify/give a narrative (since he's pro se) as a party.

Well, point 3 says he can't call any witness at trial (other than the two guys who don't know anything), and can't offer testimony from any other individual (other than the two guys who don't know anything) without voiding the stipulation. "Any other individual" than the two guys who don't know anything would seem to include...ANY other individual, including Plaintiff.

I still think the stipulation is oddly-worded considering how Greer will take any bizarre excuse he can think of to pull an attempted gotcha, but maybe that was on purpose.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

The subpoena listed in item 2 of the stipulation doesn't specify whether it's a subpoena for testimony or for documents (probably communications with witnesses). Unless I'm missing something due to not usually working in fed courts, Russ should still be able to testify/give a narrative (since he's pro se) as a party.

It also says no other witness has been disclosed in the case and that he does not intend to call "any other witness at trial as part of his case in chief." Now, does that include himself? If he intends to testify himself at trial, should he have named himself as a witness or in a pro-se case this is just an automatic given? Because if he is expected to name even himself, then he has clearly waived even that.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

So what we can gather from all this is that Russ decided his father and brother would totally back him up on his “hardships” if he asked them, and then the stupid fuck went and claimed he had two witnesses in his court filings - a) without telling his dad and brother anything at all and b) assuming he could get away with that as his witnesses would never be contacted by anyone and Russ could just make up his witness’s statements as he went.

I don’t think his family had any clue this legal case was going on at all, never mind that Russ had them in mind to be witnesses. Russ thought Null would give in, or that the court would rule in Russ’s favour, way before any evidence from Russ’s witnesses was needed. Russ especially didn’t think (or didn’t know) that he’d be forced to give contact details of his witnesses to Hardin, or that Hardin would contact them immediately - before Russ had even asked his dad and brother if they would be happy to act as witnesses for him. Poor Russ’s dad had a phone call from a lawyer absolutely out of the blue, talking about a legal case he had no clue about. Imagine finding out you’re involved in a legal case and are expected to attend a hearing, with absolutely no warning whatsoever. And just before Christmas, too.

No wonder Russ’s brother immediately said he didn’t want to be a witness. Looks like Russ panicked and called him before Hardin could, and his brother told him to gtfo with involving him in Russ’s stupid legal bullshit, especially without asking him first.

So, Mr I Have My Paralegal Degree lied about having witnesses, lied about what evidence they could give, attempted to not disclose their contact details, then directed one of them in what to say right in front of opposition counsel. The judge will ignore all of that ahit, sadly, if his previous attitude towards Russ is anything to go by.

So now both Russ’s dad and brother have told Russ to knock that shit off, and that they don’t want to be involved in his crap. Now Russ has no witnesses (meaning his previous statements about having them were lies). So now what? This surely has to affect at least his claims for damages, right? Because he seemed to be angling for his witnesses proving how much damage The Hardship Farms had caused him. Does it affect the case in any other way, though?

God, I hope the judge awards Hardin costs for all of this bullshit. It’s the least he could do after Russ gave everyone the run-around with his made-up witnesses and made-up harms.

 

[ScooterL]

So Russ isn't testifying and neither are his witnesses. He's going to present what at trial, exactly?

Plights.

Greer doesn't intend to call any OTHER witnesses

WHERE IS STEVE TAYLOR? This case came back from Florida for local witnesses, and we are being denied them!

 

[AnOminous]

WHERE IS STEVE TAYLOR? This case came back from Florida for local witnesses, and we are being denied them!

Does anyone even know who this Steve Taylor dude is? Is he, as Hardin suggests, a figment of Russhole's imagination?

 

[DHugo]

Could it be his friend from his book that was firebombed by Mexicans? The one that threatened to sue him if he puts his real name in the book.

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

WHERE IS STEVE TAYLOR

He's the lawyer who said this was a good idea... No no wait he's the angel investor for his brothel that was harassed to stop... WAIT no he's the guy in the music industry that could testify about his plights. You see with so many characters swimming around in Russell's head he can get them mixed up when it's time to put them pen to paper for his next book.

 

[Moths]

Does anyone even know who this Steve Taylor dude is? Is he, as Hardin suggests, a figment of Russhole's imagination?

He probably doesn't have enough money to pay Steve Taylor for another hour of his personal services.

Now the megabully hardin has even bullied the defendants put of his witnesses! No hookers, no witnesses, no case and Mr Moon walks away with the bag. A true travesty of justice!

 

[DHugo]

Oh yea, he had a music industry guy. Perhaps he misspelled his name?


We'll never know

 

[Bridgeburner]

I apologize if this is a stupid question, but why is the withdrawn subpoena a mercy for Russell?

 

[RodgerDodger]

After yesterday, I'm jonesing for another retarded filing

He's got one due by Monday

 

[The I Scream Man]

I apologize if this is a stupid question, but why is the withdrawn subpoena a mercy for Russell?

Because now he won’t get turbo humiliated in open court anymore than he already has

Put it to you this way: this case already served up a big batch of steaming shit on a nice platter for him, Hardin/Null just aren’t adding a couple more scoops to it here

 

[ScooterL]

Witnesses withdrawn

Give me rainbows, but I hope to one day see the exchange of emails that led to Russell putting his signature to this document.