💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

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I think paypigging, especially for people PPP and Warski, is a sign of mental illness. Nobody who works to feed themselves gives these idiots money. I'm glad there's weirdos out there (like mister masochist) to prop up these real life failures.
Paypigging is a bizarre phenomenon, add up every monthly subscription, Netflix etc. and if you subbed to them all it wouldn't come close to one kino casino shows worth of donations from a paypig.

Grant Amato at least thought it would lead to him banging a sexy bulgarian camgirl, do kino casino paypigs think this will lead to them banging PPP?
 
Paypigging is a bizarre phenomenon, add up every monthly subscription, Netflix etc. and if you subbed to them all it wouldn't come close to one kino casino shows worth of donations from a paypig.

Grant Amato at least thought it would lead to him banging a sexy bulgarian camgirl, do kino casino paypigs think this will lead to them banging PPP?
I think it's just the dopamine rush from getting a shout out. Most paypigs are likely socially inept freaks that aren't part of a community, so paying to be a top dawg in some streamer's chat makes sense to them.
 
Until around the time the Rekieta shit started to heat up, they 100% were hostile to Null and the Farms. They started to pander to both because they realized there was an audience overlap.
They didn't have to pander to Nick's anymore because Nick went full retard, his old audience abandoned him (which, for a time, included Metokur Masochist), and Null and the rest of the Farms turned hard too. A lot of people ended up on the same page.

Make no mistake though, PPP was perfectly fine with that. He NEVER liked Nick. He would have probably done it sooner if there weren't concerns about $$$.

Dollars to doughnuts as soon as it becomes convenient they will flip again. PPP especially is still bitter over his thread.
I recall the posters in PPP's thread actually being unusually nice to him. It read like Jim's thread, at times.

He originally got that thread back in 2020 because of the BS NP2 accusations he was making against Null (the same user that wrote PPP's thread wrote the Simpiracy thread), but over time PPP actually started to grow on people. He was one of those cows you kinda wanted to like.

It's only just recently that I am seeing a lot of people being critical of him again.
 
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PPP absolutely hates the farms and Josh by extention. he has made it clear both publically but also confirmed in many DMs that have been dropped.

I suspect it’s because it stands as a locus of information and opinion which he cannot fully manipulate or have an elevated platform. There is a reason he has never fully tried to become a full poster here, it doesn’t play to his strengths.
 
PPP absolutely hates the farms and Josh by extention. he has made it clear both publically but also confirmed in many DMs that have been dropped.
in DMs PPP hates everyone, thinks everyone should be shot, etc. Cleary his friends and acquittances including Josh just accept that part of PPPs personality includes him occasionally sperging out about them behind their back. He's an overweight sperg but he probably means well, unless the animal sodomization thing is true of course.

kino casino wouldn't exist without kiwi farms, PPP himself has acknowledged this on many occasions. Why would he post here when he can just rephrase posts from here to an audience of high paying pay pigs? It's the same reason Turkey Tom doesn't post here, the money is in sharing kiwifarms with the world, not in posting on kiwifarms.
 
PPP absolutely hates the farms and Josh by extention. he has made it clear both publically but also confirmed in many DMs that have been dropped.
@urr13 account is correct. PPP hates a lot of people. He used to shit pretty hard on even Metokur.

The thing is, there are pretty clearly times it behooves them to put that aside, for the sake of the grift.

Case in point: There's absolutely nothing to be made from shitting on Josh, and the Farms, and continuing to ignore Rekieta. Indeed, the Farms is probably still the best source of information as to what's going on with Rekieta. So it becomes an alliance of convenience.
 
Warski simply doesn't have a voice for broadcasting. He sounds like throwing dry dog food at a wall, every syllable is clattering and scraping. It just goes to show how important it is to simply show up. The bar is extremely low, almost anybody could upstage him.
 
It was literally 12 or 13 minutes long. Out of an 8 hour long stream. This shit is complete nontent.
You forget people like penguinz0/Cr1TiKal exist, whose takes are even more lukewarm and with even less effort into putting on a spectacle. I'm not saying that makes KC good but I am saying content creators succeed wildly who are much worse, so I think low-effort reporting/commentary is just standard by now. Probably because a lot of people just put this stuff on while working or doing other tasks. They don't want to listen to a 2 hour video essay while doing dishes.
 
which is hilarious considering almost all their content comes from here.
The stuff that isn't made up by Kinochet and the "writer's room," yes.

April losing her DL was not from KF.
Nick pleading guilty multiple times was not from KF.

They take stuff from here, and pull other stuff out of their ass.

I don't mind the former (a lot of streamers do that), but the latter has the effect of shitting up various threads sometimes so it gets annoying.
 
The stuff that isn't made up by Kinochet and the "writer's room," yes.

April losing her DL was not from KF.
Nick pleading guilty multiple times was not from KF.

They take stuff from here, and pull other stuff out of their ass.

I don't mind the former (a lot of streamers do that), but the latter has the effect of shitting up various threads sometimes so it gets annoying.
It has actually reached the point that it's very easy to distinguish between organic KF posters and KC dents
 
Why would he do that after he banned him a first time, and with such urgency that it had to be done during the stream? Someone unbanned him.
Fatty probably didn't know he was banned already or they're doing it as an optics thing. It's possible to "threadban" someone twice (I think, I will try), doesn't add as in it's still concurrent but that has happened before.

Yes, it turns out. Someone tried it out last night. However, why would PPP reban him for 10 days later?
In that case it's inconclusive as of now, we just don't know. They probably know, or don't. Maybe he was banned as a ritual to show they're doing something, who knows at this point. If someone can find MM sending messages from his real account within that timeframe, then we can assume he was unbanned.
 
Because fatty didn't know he was banned already. It's possible to "threadban" someone twice (I think, I will try), doesn't add as in it's still concurrent but that has happened before.


In that case it's inconclusive as of now, we just don't know. They probably do, or don't. Maybe he was banned as a ritual to show they're doing something, who knows at this point. If someone can find MM sending messages from his real account within that timeframe, then we can assume he was unbanned.
Kick doesn't keep logs of messages though. To further add to that it's the date where WETBEETUS MM alt was established that December 5th. Way i see it maybe they unbanned to send a DM since he was unfriended on steam to confirm his identity, and then rebanned him once they got back into contact via the WETBEETUS alt. Just to make sure they have the correct guy in the discord and in the new kick account.
Edit: I looked about their banning patterns a bit more:
Usually when they permaban someone they do it twice.
Here is an example:

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Now with Metokur Masochist (MetokurMasochist and Metokur_Masochist) (possibly an alt ? ):
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As you can see they usually follow this pattern of double banning people HOWEVER:

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This one doesn't fit the pattern as it's the 3rd ban and the time period also doesn't fit since the double banning is at most 1 day and usually happens hours inbetween ban 1 and ban 2. It really doesn't make sense unless of course they unbanned him.
 
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Kick doesn't keep logs of messages though. To further add to that it's the date where WETBEETUS MM alt was established that December 5th. Way i see it maybe they unbanned to send a DM since he was unfriended on steam to confirm his identity, and then rebanned him once they got back into contact via the WETBEETUS alt. Just to make sure they have the correct guy in the discord and in the new kick account.
There's a few, worst would be he got unbanned so they can coach him, but they have his number already so why not just use that?

The most benign explanation is one of them simply forgot, or they saw a username in the chat with a similar name and thought they forgot to ban him.

Somewhere in the middle could be that they're putting on some optics show. "See, we banned him (again), now pay up piggies and ayelawgs leave us alone".

I personally won't focus too much on this. They're definitely still in contact via other means. A weirdo like him won't just go away. Even if we just give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they've cut all communication lines, MM could have just registered an account on his own accord to continue the parasocial paypiggery. He probably goes off sexually to paypigging. In a funny world, it'll end up like that freak who killed his relatives over some ewhore, but MM putting a rod into porky and tard instead.
 
There's a few, worst would be he got unbanned so they can coach him, but they have his number already so why not just use that?

The most benign explanation is one of them simply forgot, or they saw a username in the chat with a similar name and thought they forgot to ban him.

Somewhere in the middle could be that they're putting on some optics show. "See, we banned him (again), now pay up piggies and ayelawgs leave us alone".

I personally won't focus too much on this. They're definitely still in contact via other means. A weirdo like him won't just go away. Even if we just give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they've cut all communication lines, MM could have just registered an account on his own accord to continue the parasocial paypiggery. He probably goes off sexually to paypigging. In a funny world, it'll end up like that freak who killed his relatives over some ewhore, but MM putting a rod into porky and tard instead.
They definitely are still in communication that's for sure. With Andy he was in contact for so many years and they even defended Flamenco together. Still weird since they didnt really say anything in the show and it was done in silence, not only that but it's such a random thing to do and he is also the only person that got banned that day. Remember we have the timestamp.
 
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This one doesn't fit the pattern as it's the 3rd ban and the time period also doesn't fit since the double banning is at most 1 day and usually happens hours inbetween ban 1 and ban 2. It really doesn't make sense unless of course they unbanned him.
I'm going with PPP banned him, Andy unbanned him, and then PPP saw that and re-banned him.

Like I know some people here want me to dislike both of them equally, but I hoping PPP might be trying to extricate himself from Andy's bullshit, and Andy just won't let him. PPP has been notably frustrated with Andy before.

That could be a forlorn hope though. It would just be nice if PPP's anger over this were at least semi-genuine.
 
Like I know some people here want me to dislike both of them equally, but I hoping PPP might be trying to extricate himself from Andy's bullshit, and Andy just won't let him. PPP has been notably frustrated with Andy before
No one here "hates" them. We are only expecting righteous retribution over their slimy actions. On the contrary, I have never seen anyone in the sektur but Warski get so many second chances to get it straight, and he fell worse off every single time.

PPP is just straight pity out of the extreme obesity. Ill watch Kino Casino if they invite Doctor Nowzaradan.
 
I'm going with PPP banned him, Andy unbanned him, and then PPP saw that and re-banned him.

Like I know some people here want me to dislike both of them equally, but I hoping PPP might be trying to extricate himself from Andy's bullshit, and Andy just won't let him. PPP has been notably frustrated with Andy before.

That could be a forlorn hope though. It would just be nice if PPP's anger over this were at least semi-genuine.
Listen obviously noone here is to tell you who to hate or not that's entirely your judgment. Personally if PPP was genuine about any of this, he would publicly lash Tardski for a full episode for this bullshit. I know i would i'd fucking behead him live on air. You saw what happened with Surfer, live be damned he fucking went off on him, that's PPP's genuine anger which he just doesn't exhibit here he is sweeping it up. Especially after the Kino Cathedral video that he did if he saw MM unbanned he'd go ballistic at that point, but instead he just went silent and silently banned him, and silently swept it under the rug.
 
Actually, let me play Devil's Advocate with a very simple question:
Is it possible to ban someone twice?
According to @Kinochet, yes. (The first claim about being banned twice on the same day is wrong - they are different accounts, one has an underscore and one doesn't, Ashton likely banned the wrong account at first)

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The "banned" messages only appear if you're a mod I think, it can't be that he did it to send a message to the chat or something.

Maybe he was banned by Tardski originally, and then Asstroon "banned him again". Is there a way to try this out easily?
No. The initial bans were done by Ashton on November 24. This would be when he was talking in the chat.
You can see he even banned Liana 30 seconds later too.
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The next ban was done by Ashton live during their show on December 4.
This means that Metokur_Masochist was banned at 2:14:13 into the VOD.



This is the VOD itself which has a live chat replay, it will only be temporarily on Kick, but it's there for now for the full context. They're in the middle of a Dax segment. There's nothing immediately obvious in the chat that prompts this, and he doesn't mention it on stream. Andy is staring at his screens smiling and not moving otherwise, it can't be him who does the ban.

https://kick.com/kinocasinogaming/videos/6ac37faf-aca4-4a4e-89c0-2e649611d77d

I looked at the live chat replay to see if anything involving MM was said.
Nothing was said before the ban.

This was said a couple seconds after the ban, verify yourself by going to the link above and going to around 2:14:10 and watching Ashton and then watching the chat.

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Did Metokur_Masochist accidentally gift more subs on his main account and it was missed? The live chat replays do not contain any info on gifted subs, it doesn't work like the YouTube live chats.

Or did he say something? I think if MM said something in the chat it would be deleted after getting banned again, but I'm not sure.

It seems like a massive coincidence for someone in the chat to joke about MM gifting subs seconds after PPP silently banned him with no commentary, but who knows, I guess it's possible.
 
You saw what happened with Surfer, live be damned he fucking went off on him, that's PPP's genuine anger which he just doesn't exhibit here he is sweeping it up.
Once you've watched him long enough it's very easy to tell when he's legitimately angry. His demeanour changes and the jovial nature evaporates in a flash.

In fact when this stuff was just starting there was a moment live you could see him get tilted. This was when people were saying the show is supported by just one person. You could tell it got under his skin as it's too close to home to deal with.
 
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