War Iran launches dozens of ballistic missiles toward Israel - umerous explosions have been reported in central Israel, and Israeli missile defense systems lit up the sky as they activated to intercept the incoming missiles.

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A memorial for Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in Tehran. Photo: Hossein Beris/Middle East Images/AFP via Getty

Iran launched around 100 ballistic missiles toward Israel the first wave of an attack on Tuesday, with a second wave now underway, Israeli officials say.

State of play: Numerous explosions have been reported in central Israel, and Israeli missile defense systems lit up the sky as they activated to intercept the incoming missiles.

The big picture: Tehran has been vowing retaliation after a series of recent Israeli assassinations. That retaliation is now be underway.
  • "A short time ago missiles were launched from Iran into the territory of the State of Israel," an IDF spokesperson said. "You are asked to be vigilant and act exactly according to the instructions of the Home Front Command. The IDF is doing and will do everything necessary to protect the citizens of the State of Israel."
  • The Israeli Security Cabinet is convened at the government bunker near Jerusalem, Israeli officials said.
  • There has been no confirmation yet of any casualties inside Israel.
Driving the news: The missile launches came hours after the White House warned that a ballistic missile attack was imminent.
  • "We are actively supporting defensive preparations to defend Israel against this attack. A direct military attack from Iran against Israel will carry severe consequences for Iran," a senior White House official said prior to the attack.
  • The U.S. first warned Israel of the impending attack around noon local time (5am ET), a senior Israeli official said.
  • The use of ballistic missiles makes this a more difficult attack for Israel to defend against than the Iranian drone and missile attack last April — Iran's first-ever direct attack on Israeli territory — which was largely repelled by Israel and its partners, led by the U.S.
  • Ballistic missiles can reach Israel within 12 minutes, while drones and cruise missiles leave more time to defend against.
Driving the news: The warnings of an imminent attack came just hours after Israel escalated its conflict with Hezbollah, the Iran-backed militia, by launching a ground invasion of southern Lebanon.
  • Iran has been promising retaliation against Israel for two months, since the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran.
  • Iran had yet to respond to that attack, and also rebuffed urging from Hezbollah to launch an attack against Israel within the past two weeks, Axios reported.
  • U.S. and Israeli officials had been concerned that the Israeli ground invasion and the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah — a longtime ally of Iran's supreme leader — would push Iran to change course and get more directly involved to save the militia it has armed and supported for decades.
  • Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke Tuesday with his Israeli counterpart, Yoav Gallant, shortly before the Iranian attack began.
What they're saying: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened security consultations on Tuesday morning and said in a statement: "We are in the midst of a campaign against Iran's axis of evil. We must stand together. We will stand firm together in the challenging days ahead."
  • Ahead of the attack, Israel Defense Forces spokesperson Adm. Daniel Hagari said: "Our air defense systems are fully prepared and air force jets are patrolling the sky. We are at peak readiness in offense and defense together with our partners from the U.S. and are following the developments in Iran together. An Iranian attack on Israel will have consequences."
  • Secretary of State Tony Blinken said at the top of his meeting with the foreign minister of Morocco that the U.S. is closely following the situation in the Middle East and is committed to Israel's security.
  • Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei offered no hint of how Iran would respond to Friday's attack that killed Nasrallah and a senior Iranian general beyond saying the "criminal" Israeli government would "regret its actions."
Flashback: Iran launched a massive drone and missile attack against Israel in April in retaliation for another Israeli airstrike that killed a top Iranian general in Syria.
  • Most of the drones and missiles were intercepted by Israeli, U.S., British, French, Jordanian and Saudi forces outside of Israeli airspace, and there were several injuries in Israel but no fatalities.
This is a breaking news story and will be updated.

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What if the October Surprise if Israel going full Samson because Bibi refuses to admit he will lose his PM spot?
I think it depends on how much damage Iran actually did tbh. Reading the other thread, it seems that they're nuclear material facilities are on the table. Probably going to see those bombed to dust at the very least.
 
Regarding this talk on manufacturing and military production these are some 2024 numbers:

"America’s struggles to scale munitions production after the Russian invasion of Ukraine starkly illustrate the brittleness of the U.S. industrial base. The Ukrainian military had a requirement to fire approximately 500 Javelin anti-tank missiles against Russian forces every day. In the first three months of the war, the United States shipped 7,000 Javelin missiles to Ukraine, around one-third of the American stockpile. The Lockheed Martin-Raytheon (now RTX) joint venture for the Javelin produced about 2,100 missiles a year.6 Congress has provided funds to double its production, but it will still take years to restock U.S. military inventories while continuing to support Ukraine.7 In addition, the Ukrainians have been shooting 6,000 to 7,000 field artillery rounds per day, and the Russians 40,000 to 50,000. At the onset of the conflict, U.S. production of 155 millimeter artillery rounds averaged 14,000 to 15,000 per month. With Congressional funding for additional production runs, the Defense Department expects monthly output to rise to 80,000, but not until 2025."

This is my source: https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/...3ae7809bcd8082_Govini_2024_Numbers-Matter.pdf

The report is by Govini, a Virginia based defense company. The PDF is primarily about US military industrial dependency on China, but the excerpt I posted might be relevant to the issues America would face if suddenly thrust into WW3 over this incident.


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We have over 4000 Abrams both active and in storage. The Abrams is still in active production if we need more. We are good on tanks. This is a assault vehicle for fucking up infantry, fortifications, and anything short of a tank. Know your vehicles. This was a example of a program going right and on track.
You lost a war against a bunch of goat fuckers over a 20 year period. Stop with the USA USA USA chest thumping.
 
You lost a war against a bunch of goat fuckers over a 20 year period. Stop with the USA USA USA chest thumping.
You mean we left after conquering the country and curbstomping the durka durkas to their hidey holes in the mountains for 20 years. We got bored bro. So we left. The Taliban won shit.
 
What if the October Surprise if Israel going full Samson because Bibi refuses to admit he will lose his PM spot?
If you're referencing the Samson Option that supposedly targets the rest of the world in the case Israel thinks they're going down, that would be one of the most catastrophically stupid decisions they could possibly make. Israel is a tiny geographical area, we could turn their entire nation into a flattened parking lot full of rubble and probably not even make a significant dent in our stockpile, and that's just one nation. Israel launching nukes at everyone because they think they're going down would probably kick off the biblical prophecy wherein the entire world, like every fucking nation on earth just decides Fuck Israel and marches on them, it would be terminal levels of shortsighted foolishness that would almost instantly backfire and cause them more damage than they can sustain or dish out.

So yeah I could see them doing it.
 
You mean we left after conquering the country and curbstomping the durka durkas to their hidey holes in the mountains for 20 years. We got bored bro. So we left. The Taliban won shit.
Left? You were chased out. Your entire occupation was being held up in bases, surrounded by hostiles, afraid to leave.

We've had three pages now of colonials cockwaving over the size of their tanks, fuck off with that shit.
 
You lost a war against a bunch of goat fuckers over a 20 year period. Stop with the USA USA USA chest thumping.
You fail to grasp the difference between conventional combat and asymmetrical combat. Iran and Afghanistan are two incredibly different places with different people and a different strategy of combat. Ask Russia how Afghanistan worked out for them.
 
Russia produces more steel than the US lmaoooooooo
now let's look at a chart that's actually dated, from July 2024
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now let's only include countries that produce something other than unusable garbage that would be more at home in the bronze age
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oh nooooo, even with all the substandard countries removed US is still only #2. well, you can't win them all
 
You fail to grasp the difference between conventional combat and asymmetrical combat. Iran and Afghanistan are two incredibly different places with different people and a different strategy of combat. Ask Russia how Afghanistan worked out for them.
I just got off the phone to America and asked them how Iraq worked out for them. All I got back was some mumbling about 'mission accomplished', before hearing the sound of the embassy being rocketed again.
 
You mean we left after conquering the country and curbstomping the durka durkas to their hidey holes in the mountains for 20 years. We got bored bro. So we left. The Taliban won shit.
Bro if the enemy you went to the ends of the earth to defeat never surrenders and retains control over the country. Despite you spending trillions of dollars in resources and 20 years of your time to defeat them. They won.

If that isn't victory I don't know what is. Frame it however you want. The Vietnam faggotry of "we didn't win or lose we left" is equally as faggoty today as it was 60 years ago. All it does is try and lessen the impact of our superiority meaning fuck all if the enemy makes you come in and take it. Really take it by killing every last one of them. Which we won't do.
 
Bro if the enemy you went to the ends of the earth to defeat never surrenders and retains control over the country. Despite you spending trillions of dollars in resources and 20 years of your time to defeat them. They won.

If that isn't victory I don't know what is. Frame it however you want. The Vietnam faggotry of "we didn't win or lose we left" is equally as faggoty today as it was 60 years ago. All it does is try and lessen the impact of our superiority meaning fuck all if the enemy makes you come in and take it. Really take it by killing every last one of them. Which we won't do.
I have to agree with this. North Vietnam and the Taliban accomplished their goals, we didn't accomplish ours. They won and we lost by definition.
 
Left? You were chased out. Your entire occupation was being held up in bases, surrounded by hostiles, afraid to leave.

We've had three pages now of colonials cockwaving over the size of their tanks, fuck off with that shit.
No we kept them in the mountains until they heard that we were leaving, then they nigger rushed us on the way out.
now let's look at a chart that's actually dated, from July 2024
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now let's only include countries that produce something other than unusable garbage that would be more at home in the bronze age
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oh nooooo, even with all the substandard countries removed US is still only #2. well, you can't win them all
I will say the QUALITY of American steel far exceeds chinese. They produce alot, but its all shit.
 
Bro if the enemy you went to the ends of the earth to defeat never surrenders and retains control over the country. Despite you spending trillions of dollars in resources and 20 years of your time to defeat them. They won.

If that isn't victory I don't know what is. Frame it however you want. The Vietnam faggotry of "we didn't win or lose we left" is equally as faggoty today as it was 60 years ago. All it does is try and lessen the impact of our superiority meaning fuck all if the enemy makes you come in and take it. Really take it by killing every last one of them. Which we won't do.
The US wasn't there to take ownership of the country. We got what we wanted, even if handholding the dirt farmers and trying to get them to have a functional society didnt work out. That's on them.
 
You fail to grasp the difference between conventional combat and asymmetrical combat. Iran and Afghanistan are two incredibly different places with different people and a different strategy of combat. Ask Russia how Afghanistan worked out for them.
You would have a very serious problem just getting to Iran to fight them.

Second, the USA does not have the resources to even do another Iraq in 2024. In the 1990s we had over 600k uniformed servicemen in the country. In 2008 at the height of the lol Surge we didn't even have 200k uniformed servicemen in the entire country, and we are unable to repeat that today.
 
The US wasn't there to take ownership of the country. We got what we wanted, even if handholding the dirt farmers and trying to get them to have a functional society didnt work out. That's on them.
Quite an irrelevant point since the dirt farming Taliban only ever wanted control of dirt farming in Afghanistan.

We wanted what? A trough of money to feed the military industrial complex for 20 years? Well, we definitely succeeded there. No doubt about that.
 
The USA doesn't have infinite production. Less than a tenth of Russia's production, who has been supplying Iran. Doesn't matter how much money you have if there's nothing to buy with it because your enemy destroyed it all faster than it could be made.
Nah, the US can produce as much as Russia, likely at a higher quality, the US is just too focused on goy opera election BS and culture wars, as well as allowing its elites to suck up the lower classes dry.
Also unwilling to put its economy on a war footing.
I think the only reason US has some fighting spirit in it is because it has to protect Israel at all costs. Without that, the US would be as pacified as Europe.
 
You lost a war against a bunch of goat fuckers over a 20 year period. Stop with the USA USA USA chest thumping.
The Taliban and the US military basically didn't fight each other at all since 2016ish. It served the Taliban no purpose because we'd kick the shit out of whatever bunch of men they sent on a raid aimed at our soldiers every time they tried, and they knew if they kept themselves quiet out in the countryside away from the towns waiting for us to leave the non-Taliban Afghans would collapse instantly like they did

It had nothing to do with military strength
You would have a very serious problem just getting to Iran to fight them.

Second, the USA does not have the resources to even do another Iraq in 2024. In the 1990s we had over 600k uniformed servicemen in the country. In 2008 at the height of the lol Surge we didn't even have 200k uniformed servicemen in the entire country, and we are unable to repeat that today.
Ummm no lol

Active duty is about 450k in the army. This is not counting national guard and reserve units that aren't currently called up (some number of them always are)

Marines is about 175k active duty

Navy and chair force about 300k each active duty

US most definitely could put 200,000 bodies into a country if it wanted to. It would take time to build up the forces at a suitable invasion launch pad (neighboring country or from the sea) but that has always been true even in WW2
 
Welp, there's the start for another US involvement in a new forever war in the Middle East. Fuck that.

This.

All that autistic shit I typed in the beep, beep, boom thread... vindicated. There is nothing to celebrate, nothing so funny it is worth getting sucked into WW3 over. Fuck this sandy cock hole semite shite!

The dune coons have all the desperate ideologues they could ever want and you cannot defeat them by galvanizing them. The Israelis control the fucking US congress and can print infinite whacky inflatable fun bux, so they will never go down without dragging us along.

God I hate them and I can't even enjoy their spats because I know what it means for the future... Makes me hate them even more. I will send my kids to die taking DC before I send my kids to die taking Gaza.
 
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