War Iran launches dozens of ballistic missiles toward Israel - umerous explosions have been reported in central Israel, and Israeli missile defense systems lit up the sky as they activated to intercept the incoming missiles.

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A memorial for Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in Tehran. Photo: Hossein Beris/Middle East Images/AFP via Getty

Iran launched around 100 ballistic missiles toward Israel the first wave of an attack on Tuesday, with a second wave now underway, Israeli officials say.

State of play: Numerous explosions have been reported in central Israel, and Israeli missile defense systems lit up the sky as they activated to intercept the incoming missiles.

The big picture: Tehran has been vowing retaliation after a series of recent Israeli assassinations. That retaliation is now be underway.
  • "A short time ago missiles were launched from Iran into the territory of the State of Israel," an IDF spokesperson said. "You are asked to be vigilant and act exactly according to the instructions of the Home Front Command. The IDF is doing and will do everything necessary to protect the citizens of the State of Israel."
  • The Israeli Security Cabinet is convened at the government bunker near Jerusalem, Israeli officials said.
  • There has been no confirmation yet of any casualties inside Israel.
Driving the news: The missile launches came hours after the White House warned that a ballistic missile attack was imminent.
  • "We are actively supporting defensive preparations to defend Israel against this attack. A direct military attack from Iran against Israel will carry severe consequences for Iran," a senior White House official said prior to the attack.
  • The U.S. first warned Israel of the impending attack around noon local time (5am ET), a senior Israeli official said.
  • The use of ballistic missiles makes this a more difficult attack for Israel to defend against than the Iranian drone and missile attack last April — Iran's first-ever direct attack on Israeli territory — which was largely repelled by Israel and its partners, led by the U.S.
  • Ballistic missiles can reach Israel within 12 minutes, while drones and cruise missiles leave more time to defend against.
Driving the news: The warnings of an imminent attack came just hours after Israel escalated its conflict with Hezbollah, the Iran-backed militia, by launching a ground invasion of southern Lebanon.
  • Iran has been promising retaliation against Israel for two months, since the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran.
  • Iran had yet to respond to that attack, and also rebuffed urging from Hezbollah to launch an attack against Israel within the past two weeks, Axios reported.
  • U.S. and Israeli officials had been concerned that the Israeli ground invasion and the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah — a longtime ally of Iran's supreme leader — would push Iran to change course and get more directly involved to save the militia it has armed and supported for decades.
  • Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin spoke Tuesday with his Israeli counterpart, Yoav Gallant, shortly before the Iranian attack began.
What they're saying: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened security consultations on Tuesday morning and said in a statement: "We are in the midst of a campaign against Iran's axis of evil. We must stand together. We will stand firm together in the challenging days ahead."
  • Ahead of the attack, Israel Defense Forces spokesperson Adm. Daniel Hagari said: "Our air defense systems are fully prepared and air force jets are patrolling the sky. We are at peak readiness in offense and defense together with our partners from the U.S. and are following the developments in Iran together. An Iranian attack on Israel will have consequences."
  • Secretary of State Tony Blinken said at the top of his meeting with the foreign minister of Morocco that the U.S. is closely following the situation in the Middle East and is committed to Israel's security.
  • Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei offered no hint of how Iran would respond to Friday's attack that killed Nasrallah and a senior Iranian general beyond saying the "criminal" Israeli government would "regret its actions."
Flashback: Iran launched a massive drone and missile attack against Israel in April in retaliation for another Israeli airstrike that killed a top Iranian general in Syria.
  • Most of the drones and missiles were intercepted by Israeli, U.S., British, French, Jordanian and Saudi forces outside of Israeli airspace, and there were several injuries in Israel but no fatalities.
This is a breaking news story and will be updated.

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Okay but we have to consider, 1: they got stuck in kill lanes multiple times storming down town, and 2: they weren’t built by black women rubber stamped with DEI.
I guess we might find out soon if your hypothesis is correct, I'm just pointing out the idea of M2s being shit at combat is false as things stand.

You can get a really good idea of how M2s are doing in 2024 if you look at the Ukraine War thread.
 
I guess we might find out soon if your hypothesis is correct, I'm just pointing out the idea of M2s being shit at combat is false as things stand.

You can get a really good idea of how M2s are doing in 2024 if you look at the Ukraine War thread.
M2s are great I’m not denying it, but they’re not invincible. That angled front armor can only block so much. A shot from the side or back is a crew fatality depending on the type of warhead. They’re also not mine resistant like an MRAPS.
 
During Desert Storm, the M2 Bradley was responsible for destroying more Iraqi armored vehicles than the M1 Abrams was. The Iraqis managed to kill an outstanding total of three, read that again, three M2s. By comparison, 11 M2s were destroyed by friendly fire.

I guess we might find out soon if your hypothesis is correct, I'm just pointing out the idea of M2s being shit at combat is false as things stand.

You can get a really good idea of how M2s are doing in 2024 if you look at the Ukraine War thread.
The Bradley is unironically a great IFV. Two TOW missiles on tap, reloads in the back, a 25mm Bushmaster spraying depleted uranium APFSDS and HE at anything that moves, six-seven boys in the troop compartment, and a 7.62 coax to round it all out. It took a long time to build and get through congress, but it was worth all of it.
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The Bradley is unironically a great IFV. Two TOW missiles on tap, reloads in the back, a 25mm Bushmaster spraying depleted uranium APFSDS and HE at anything that moves, six-seven boys in the troop compartment, and a 7.62 coax to round it all out. It took a long time to build and get through congress, but it was worth all of it.
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I remember watching a video last year of two Ukrainian M2s tag-teaming a Russian T-72. T-72 was killed and the M2s were fine. Basically a repeat of 73 Easting.
 
I remember watching a video last year of two Ukrainian M2s tag-teaming a Russian T-72. T-72 was killed and the M2s were fine. Basically a repeat of 73 Easting.
Well when you have anti tank missiles and autocannons going at 200 RPM with sabot ammunition, tanks aren't going to be invincible, especially if you're hunting in packs. The Bradley is legitimately a threat. The US has thousands btw and is in the middle of upgrading them to the latest standard with a active protection system to fuck over RPG's.
 
The Bradley is unironically a great IFV. Two TOW missiles on tap, reloads in the back, a 25mm Bushmaster spraying depleted uranium APFSDS and HE at anything that moves, six-seven boys in the troop compartment, and a 7.62 coax to round it all out. It took a long time to build and get through congress, but it was worth all of it.
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I love you Bradley. You’re easily the coolest thing to come out of the sand wars besides the M1128 Stryker
 
During Desert Storm, the M2 Bradley was responsible for destroying more Iraqi armored vehicles than the M1 Abrams was. The Iraqis managed to kill an outstanding total of three, read that again, three M2s. By comparison, 11 M2s were destroyed by friendly fire.
Kind of amusing how even the M2 outranged the Russian MBTs by more than a kilometer. The Abrams really only came into play when a tank that had been buried in sand needed to pop its top.

In World War 1 the Yanks had to bum machine guns from the French because the Americans didn't have the factory capacity to build their own in such a large deployment.
In WWI we used the French light machine guns because we didn't want the Brits to see and steal the BAR, not because we couldn't make them. Didn't want to reveal a technological marvel.

Most countries' light machineguns were garbage like the Chauchat that the US cursed its men with and they didn't want to spill the secrets to countries they didn't quite trust, even if they were nominally on the same side.
 
Man this slap fight got autistic. Yes materiel can be churned out if necessary, but you're going to have to shift a whole fucking load of middle managers, "quality auditors", HR, and other made up jobs for the unemployable DEI lot who can do nothing other than block and slow everything. The MIC is fucking full of them at the moment.

The US has the 3rd highest steel output, 6th highest pig iron output, 2nd highest sulphuric acid output (a very strong measure of manufacturing strength), and produces 10% of semiconductors on earth. The base is there, and if the EPA is told to get fucked that can be ramped up significantly.
 
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Yeah but guys what if every soldier's axe wound suddenly started shitting and they all passed out from their AIDS pneumonia at the same time, checkmate Americans your tonks and IFVs would get totally rekt no problem then :smug:
 
I remember watching a video last year of two Ukrainian M2s tag-teaming a Russian T-72. T-72 was killed and the M2s were fine. Basically a repeat of 73 Easting.

Well when you have anti tank missiles and autocannons going at 200 RPM with sabot ammunition, tanks aren't going to be invincible, especially if you're hunting in packs. The Bradley is legitimately a threat. The US has thousands btw and is in the middle of upgrading them to the latest standard with a active protection system to fuck over RPG's.
It was hilarious when one of the Bradley gunners later in an interview said that he learned to aim for the bottom slope of the T-72 turret from War Thunder (either that or World of Tanks)
 
Ignoring the fact that the US is the #2 manufacturing economy on the planet. Russia has less of a manufacturing base than Indonesia.
Russia produces more steel than the US lmaoooooooo
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China is 14.5x more lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Money is used as a measure because it is the most convenient and full data to be gathered, and if you want to dig down into it can be converted into tonnage or other amounts of purchased/produced/sold if you're so inclined
Let me guess, you don't know the difference between nominal and PPP
 
Desert Storm took 3,113 tanks. The M10 Booker is a light assault vehicle that gets fucked by a direct hit. Do you really want to storm Mogadishu with a bunch of Bradleys?

storm mogadishu or drop in for a raid? because black hawk down was a raid. if you dont care too much about civ casualties bradleys can clean up.
 
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