🐮 Lolcow Jeffrey Leibowitz / Not Dead Yet

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The one and only time I ever killed an animal that wasn't for food I was 8 and there was a rattler in the stable with the horses so I grabbed the manure shovel without thinking and brought it down full force as close to his head as I could manage like my grandma taught me. I remember everyone was really complimentary about my bravery and clear thinking in an emergency but it definitely wasn't bravery or clear thinking. Completely acting on autopilot and I felt sick when it was over.
It's still the competent thing to do. In the wild you can usually back off and they're polite enough to warn you before striking. They literally have the rattles so expending their precious venom isn't their only way to ward off predators (which is what they consider you). I've encountered rattlers a few times and if you just back away slowly they don't do shit.

The scariest was once I was on a hiking trail and suddenly looked down at what I thought was a vine and was about to step on and it was the wrong color. It was a diamondback. It was stretched out basking in the sun so wasn't in a position to strike. I took off running that time. Apparently the snake was startled too because it didn't even rattle.

But if they're a menace you pretty much have to do that. I've seen someone do that, also with a shovel, but never done it myself.
Nobody gives a shit about factory farms outside of "the West." Nobody gives a shit about vivisection in China.
Chinks are subhuman though. They don't even care about their fellow citizens getting vivisected for political dissent and then having their organs sold to billionaires.
Unfortunately it's bad news.
The good news is he'll have to pay for all 10 shots of antivenom ($3500 or so a pop) and his kidneys are fucked forever.
And there's cancer I'm rooting for.
My personal hope is he's also constantly taunted online about his pathetic life and his cancer, his kidneys, and how he took antivenom 10 times which makes him a TEN TIMES PUSSY.
 
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I may have just not dug enough here or elsewhere but I haven't really seen anyone give a valuable reason why we just let retards own deadly animals like this.

Do we get like a few future researchers and antivenom experts or something from a private keeper pipeline? Or is the only "value" just a freedom argument
The reason people keep hot snakes is two fold
>keeping them seperates them from the rest of the snake community. It's a path to saying "Oh you have a python, thats cute, well I have a cobra"
>To then breed their hot snakes and sell to other retards substituting a personality with hot exotic owning.

If you want to own a snake I reccomend cornsakes if you want to watch something burrow and be active in their cage, Ball Pythons for a snake that is more social able and you can take out and impress girls in the dorm when they come over to buy weed from you.

If you aren't a PhD in herpatology, or working at a zoo there is little reason to ever come in contact with hot snakes. If you do know a zoologist of herp PHD explain Jeff to them and watch the horror on their face.

Speaking of horror, everyones favorite snake fudge is dead because Jeff is a retard (sorry buddy)

 
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King Snakes won't even bite people. It's not part of their defense instinct. You can literally just pick them up, hold them for a minute, and let them on their way to do snake things.

You're probably trolling but in the event you're not then you're a Nick Rekieta level of small animal killing psycho.
Bro I don't know or care what king snakes look like. If I see one fucking around in my yard it gets the shovel.
 
Bro I don't know or care what king snakes look like. If I see one fucking around in my yard it gets the shovel.
That requires you to go outside and touch grass first.

Regardless, keeping venomous snakes is one of the dumbest thing one can do, it’s like keeping a pitbull next to a baby.

I am glad the retard’s kidneys are shot. He has a long road of suffering to go.
 
Apparently the reason he's still alive is it was a Juvenile. Their poison is just as deadly as the adults, but you don't get as big of a dose.
I thought it was kind of the opposite. An adult saves its venom and uses what's necessary but a baby gives you everything it's got. It takes a lot of metabolic energy to generate that shit, and a taipan specifically has a really nasty venom. Most venoms are hemotoxic, neurotoxic, or myotoxic, but taipan venom is all three.

That's why this retard is turbofucked.
 
Bro I don't know or care what king snakes look like. If I see one fucking around in my yard it gets the shovel.
In high school, a dude ran over a king snake and kept it for a few days to see if it was OK. It was, it didn't really seem to care. I took it home for a bit (he didn't want to keep it) and made a small temporary enclosure for it with shredded newspaper, and got to experience their trick of shaking their tail like a rattlesnake to ward off predators. In the newspaper or leaves in the wild, it sounds close enough to make you careful.

I released it into my back yard, it climbed up a tree, and had a natural snake life. They eat rats and venomous snakes, from what I read.
 
If you want to own a snake I reccomend cornsakes if you want to watch something burrow and be active in their cage, Ball Pythons for a snake that is more social able and you can take out and impress girls in the dorm when they come over to buy weed from you.

Rosy Boa if you want a Boa but don't have the space, Kenyan Sand Boa if you want a pair of eyes in the dirt, King snake as an alternative to Corn, Hognose if you want a stubby mufucka you don't want to be bit by.... and Garters but you catch them when you are 12 and let them go because of the musk.... Are there any other good entry level snakes? I feel like everything else is either fragile or rare or really fucking big.

Bro I don't know or care what king snakes look like. If I see one fucking around in my yard it gets the shovel.

This guy has made several appearances in my gardens. Without the flash he looks black and red, quite terrifying actually, he's at least 4 or 5 feet and has a pretty big head (big head, big venomous fangs usually but not in this case) but he isn't a moccasin or a timber rattler... so I call the dog off him and let him go about his evening. Pretty sure he is a well fed Northern Watersnake. In any event he is definitely here for the all you can eat field mice buffet and he is welcome to it, He can't actually cause serious damage to the kids, and even the cat could probably kick his ass. I have way fewer tunnels in the yard this year thanks to his services. They are supposedly pretty ornery snakes but he only made one bluff strike against the dog when she was all up in his face.

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I thought it was kind of the opposite. An adult saves its venom and uses what's necessary but a baby gives you everything it's got. It takes a lot of metabolic energy to generate that shit, and a taipan specifically has a really nasty venom. Most venoms are hemotoxic, neurotoxic, or myotoxic, but taipan venom is all three.

That's why this retard is turbofucked.
Venom from juvis has a smaller total load and is (unfortunately) less toxic, but typically (as in rattlesnakes) works faster. Smaller animals need a faster acting venom that can incapacitate prey before the prey counters.

Adults venom has a higher enzyme count and will dump in bigger loads. It works slower but is deadlier overall. Adults may also conserve their venom and dry bite, but this is such a retarded failsafe that it's best assume every bite you've received as a human and potential predator is a full load. A juvi can control its venom load, but they are more likely to dump a full load and have less venom to dump overall (Jeff's snake was less than 3 months old).

Another reason for the "juvis are more deadly" narrative is that small kids tend to try to catch wild snakes, with juvis being their prime target. So from Texas farms to reservations parents have told their kids "stay away from the little ones, their deadlier than the adults".

A kid or elderly person getting bit by a venomous snake is always more susceptible to the venom than a healthy adult. So little 5 yr old Timmy chasing after a baby rattler is a recipe for disaster.

There are other intangibles like heriditary immunization, bite tolerance, toxin type, venom load and body part bit. A snake handling preacher may become all but immune to venom since his ancestors may have survived bites or he may have immunized himself through repeated encounters with the venom.

Twin brothers could have wildly different outcomes if one is bit on the face and the other on the foot.
A bite from hemotoxin or cardiotoxin may kill an overweight person with heart ailments while a bite from a myotoxin might just feel like his leg fell asleep, only to become necrotic later on.

In Jeff's case he's probably lucky it was a juvi in that it's venom has faster acting by less damaging enzymes.

I would guess if he received a bite from an adult he would have died while waiting for the Bronx zoo helicopter. But i really have no idea because taipai bites in the Carolinas are a new phenomenon in clown world.
Unfortunately it's bad news.
The good news is he'll have to pay for all 10 shots of antivenom ($3500 or so a pop) and his kidneys are fucked forever.
Jeff is a school teacher who rents at 50+ years old. He's never paying that back, taxpayers or his insurance network will, but I'd bet my life he doesn't spend more than a grand on his hospital bills even in the event he gets a 6 figure out of pocket bill (which he deserves). Once again if he gets a kidney transplant I volunteer to help investigate whoever is in charge of the waiting lists.
 
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The guy types like some 18 year old hardbro on a COD server. How did he live this long?


I don't understand the appeal of keeping dangerous wild animals like this as pets. You're not going to get any genuine affection from them, and it's not like you're giving them any genuine affection in return by taking them out of their natural habitat and keeping them caged up indoors. They're just a terrible accident waiting to happen, and it could just as easily be an innocent bystander who gets hurt as the moron responsible for keeping them.
I guess its sort of a long term daredevil challenge like walking between skyscrapers or climbing mountains without any safety equipment like Alex Honnald. I don't really get challenges where you sabotage yourself after making a mistake like not keeping a stock of Antivenom or encourage needlessly reckless and unsafe practices when there are much safer ways of being a cool dude who handles venomous snakes.



If he's on a respirator and his kidneys already shut down he's about as seriously envenomed as he can possibly get. There's just not much it can do to finish him off if he's already on life support in a hospital, unless his heart completely gives out.

I think he'll survive but he'll spend months in hospital and be permanently fucked from the experience.

New update from Facebook. Kidneys are fucked, but he is alive and apparently improving.

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Even if he survives kidney failure is no joke. Dialysis is basically a slow death. I hope they are not mocking the family too much without any evidence that they have responsibility.

PS: I found the 'Not Dead Yet' Channel and I see some videos have been recently posted as 8 days ago. Is this all him or is someone else managing it?
 
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Those pigs could just call up some local conservation place and make the snakes their problems.
Apparently they did and nobody wanted them
Will Dillman, assistant chief of wildlife at South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, said it was unlikely that any zoo or reptile sanctuary would accept the snakes because of their conditions and unknown diseases they may have. Officers contacted multiple organizations, including River Banks Zoo, Alligator Adventure, Reptile Lagoon, Edisto Island Serpentarium, and South of the Border. However, none would accept them due to the safety risks they could pose.

Sad tbh, unlike shitbulls I do feel bad for them, imagine you are smuggled out of your jungle, Australian desert or whatever, you bite some retard and you are disposed of
 
PS: I found the 'Not Dead Yet' Channel and I see some videos have been recently posted as 8 days ago. Is this all him or is someone else managing it?

It's him, he's deleted some of the hospital vids as well as the taipai "everyone is too big a pussy to freehand these" vid because even though he has a culty Facebook following the larger internet started pointing out that all his snakes were killed.
 
There are other intangibles like heriditary immunization, bite tolerance, toxin type, venom load and body part bit. A snake handling preacher may become all but immune to venom since his ancestors may have survived bites or he may have immunized himself through repeated encounters with the venom.
Now might be a good time to discuss how antivenin is actually made, which is by giving the venom to animals that are immune and harvesting their antibodies in the serum, so this is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Actually, there's a guy who is basically immune and lets the snakes bite him so he can send his blood to researchers. He's been bitten by cobras, taipans, and black mambas. Can't believe I've forgotten about him lol

Edit: Video for those who like this sort of crazy thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJZeEIXDMhc
 
Now might be a good time to discuss how antivenin is actually made, which is by giving the venom to animals that are immune and harvesting their antibodies in the serum, so this is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Actually, there's a guy who is basically immune and lets the snakes bite him so he can send his blood to researchers. He's been bitten by cobras, taipans, and black mambas. Can't believe I've forgotten about him lol

Edit: Video for those who like this sort of crazy thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJZeEIXDMhc
The immune to snake venom guy is the goat though. Seriously, he turned an accidental bite that he survived because he already had resistance into a career of being bitten and hurt in order to help others. Even if it doesn't kill him, it's still unpleasant as fuck. Not many would do that if they had the chance, and I don't blame them, because it's still painful.
We are getting closer and closer to producing antivenom artificially though, so eventually we just make stuff in a lab and won't need it anymore. A few types of snake venom are having promising results, and there's also a promising "universal" antivenom (which doesn't quite work for snakes with more unique venom), but it's gonna be half a decade to get that stuff approved for use on humans once it's easier to make because everyone knows that process is slow as can be. Can't risk using something untested to save a life, after all! (Side note, it really should be made easier to get/use experimental treatments at your own risk. Just make sure people know what the risks are, sign a waiver, and let them use whatever they think will help. Gets more data faster, and would save lives in the long run.)
 
Bro I don't know or care what king snakes look like. If I see one fucking around in my yard it gets the shovel
That is retarded. Why would you kill a snake who’s harmless to humans but eats other snakes?
 
I superchatted earlier today about him mixing his Serval "Swagger" with a domestic cat to make 1st generation Savannahs. This kikey faggot would have sold them without warning people they were 1st. Only edgy retards want a 1st gen Savannah, and they will remind you at ever chance, like when it tears up their appartment walls and pisses on your shoes. The more chill a Savannah is, the farther removed it is from the original Serval line.

It's sad to think that Swag probably died after his escape, but overall it's for the best.
 
I may have just not dug enough here or elsewhere but I haven't really seen anyone give a valuable reason why we just let retards own deadly animals like this.

Do we get like a few future researchers and antivenom experts or something from a private keeper pipeline? Or is the only "value" just a freedom argument
In most states owning venomous snakes is either flat out illegal or requires a permit that usually requires you to not be retarded. South Carolina is one of a couple exceptions, most of which are in the south or mountain west red states. Animal regulations in general are extremely inconsistent state to state, some states ban keeping native species but allow exotics, some ban exotics but catching a native rattlesnake in the wild is fine.

That said these are really only a danger to the person who owns them unlike a pitbull and pitbulls are legal in more of the country than venomous snakes are. And venomous snakes really aren't that dangerous unless you are actively retarded like this guy is. I think people should be free to die in retarded ways, unfortunately our medical system sees fit to save people who do something dumb enough to deserve death.
 
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