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By Joyce Jiang, CNN
Published 9:27 PM EDT, Sun August 18, 2024


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A 1980s-era poster in China reads: "To rejuvenate the nation, control the population growth."


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“What are your parents’ names?”

Fang, then a third grader, hemmed and hawed at the simple question as her teacher waited impatiently, unaware the 9-year-old was caught in a dilemma.

Since preschool, Fang had been officially registered as the daughter of her eldest uncle – an attempt by her birth parents to circumvent harsh penalties for having a second baby under China’s controversial one-child policy that was enforced from 1980 to 2015.

“I really had no idea which parents I was supposed to name,” Fang told CNN years later, using a pseudonym for privacy reasons.

Since then, Beijing has gradually lifted the birth caps from one to two children, then to three in 2021, in a bid to arrest a looming demographic crisis.

The one-child rules have gone, but the wounds of the past cast long shadows. A new generation of women like Fang, haunted by their parents’ struggles and their own sacrifices as children under the one-child policy, now eye parenthood with reluctance – making Beijing’s current pro-birth push a tough sell.

Fang was born in the 1990s – when the one-child limit was at its strictest – and became a big sister just a year later, when her mother “illegally” became pregnant again. To avoid punishment, the family sent Fang to live with extended family members, while her mother pretended her second pregnancy was her first.

Fang, now 30 and married, doesn’t want children at all.

“All the fears, drifts and insecurity felt throughout my own childhood have, more or less, played a part in my current call,” she said.

Sacrifices of eldest daughters
Keeping their firstborn secret spared Fang’s parents ruinous fines, job loss and even forced abortion and sterilization – the heavy price for having an “unauthorized” second child, another daughter.

Fang was finally allowed to return home at age 10 – but was still registered as her eldest uncle’s daughter and told to “stick with her official registration” whenever she was asked about her parents.

After the one-child policy was dismantled in 2015, Fang’s parents tried for another child. Fang sensed their unstated wish for a son, but her mother gave birth to a girl – her third.

Over 30 years of China’s one-child policy, an estimated 20 million baby girls “disappeared” due to sex-selective abortions or infanticide, according to Li Shuzhuo, director of the Center for Population and Social Policy Research at China’s Xi’an Jiaotong University.

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A billboard encourages Chinese couples to have only one child in Beijing on January 1, 1983.


Twenty-five-year-old Yao, the eldest of three siblings, shared a similar childhood marred by the policy and asked CNN to use only her surname for privacy reasons.

She was born in a rural village in northeastern Shandong, one of the 19 provinces that allowed rural couples to have a second child – if their first was a girl – during the single child policy’s reign.

This “one-and-a-half child policy” variant, introduced in 1984, reinforced the traditional Chinese preference for sons by implying that girls were worth “half” as much as boys, as noted in a leading Chinese academic study published last year.

Yao’s first sibling was a girl – allowed under the policy – but then her mother fell pregnant with a third child – a forbidden one – and soon fled to another village with Yao’s sister, leaving Yao in the care of her grandparents.

Yao said her mother was forced to keep her pregnancy secret to avoid a potential forced abortion. But after the “extra baby” arrived, she sought to officially register him as her son – and paid a crushing fine of 50,000 yuan (about $7,000).

For Yao, it meant losing her mother’s companionship for nearly a year when she moved out to carry her son to term.

“I was only a first grader then and had no one to walk me to and from school,” Yao recalled.

“I felt all alone at that time.”

CNN is unable to independently verify Fang’s and Yao’s accounts.

From one to three – or none?
Since the shift to a three-child policy in 2021, Beijing has been running national campaigns to foster a “pro-birth culture” as China’s population shrinks and grays at an alarming rate.

Posters and slogans once warning of the perils of having more than one child have been replaced with ones encouraging more births. Local governments have rolled out a flurry of policy incentives, from cash handouts and real estate subsidies to the extension of maternity leave.

The policy U-turn, from birth limits to birth boost, has left Yao “speechless.”

“How ‘well-planned’ the family-planning policy is!” Yao mocked. “(The government) used to slap us for having two (babies) and now expects us to have three?”

Fang said she was “somewhat nettled” by Beijing’s initiatives to spur births, arguing: “Having kids or not is purely a woman’s personal choice, not out of any policy, be it a stick or a carrot.”

In May, China’s National Health Commission issued a dozen “birth-friendly theme posters” to local bureaus, calling for a “widespread dissemination” from social media to community parks.

The move was met with wry comments online, referencing past one-child slogans like “Fewer kids, happier lives,” and, “If you want to be rich, have fewer children and plant more trees.”

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A billboard says, "Implement three-child policy and optimize population growth" in Yichang, Hubei province of China, on January 17, 2024.


These chants are not just recounted for ridicule – people have found new resonance with the ruling Chinese Communist Party’s old teachings and are now acting on them earnestly.

Last year, the country’s total fertility rate (TFR) – meaning the average number of children a woman delivers during her reproductive years – stood at around 1.0, according to the 2024 China Birth Report from the YuWa Population Research Institute, a China-based think tank.

That’s far lower than the 2.1 rate needed to maintain a stable population, or the “replacement rate” in demographic terms, and ranks as the second lowest among the world’s major economies.

The birth deficit is even grimmer in China’s richest city, Shanghai, where roughly half of all women do not have children throughout their reproductive periods, based on the city’s 2023 TFR figure (0.6) announced in May.

Rock kicked off cliff
Yi Fuxian, an expert on China’s demographics at the University of Wisconsin, says the country faces three major obstacles to reversing its shrinking population: low fertility desire, high child-raising costs and a climbing infertility rate.

Of these, “the sole challenge Beijing has any capacity to impact is the affordability issue,” Yi said.

Last month, the Communist Party proposed boosting incentives, including childbirth subsidies and more affordable childcare, at a key meeting of party leaders.

Yet, debt-stricken local governments – including many that are struggling to recover from three years of strict pandemic controls and a loss of revenue from a real estate crash – can only carry them out on a shoestring budget, dooming the party’s birth boost attempt, according to Yi.

Chinese state-run media outlet Jiemian reported in early June that the highest childcare subsidies nationwide amount to only 57,800 yuan (about $8,000) – a drop in the bucket for one of the world’s priciest countries to raise kids.

The cost of raising a child to age 18 in China is 6.3 times its gross domestic product (GDP) per capita - second only to its neighbor South Korea at 7.79 times, according to a YuWa report.

The hefty price tag means some people are putting off parenthood until later in life, when their fertility and openness to child-rearing might be on the wane.

“China has fallen into a ‘low-fertility trap’ and the figure will only dip further,” warned Yi.

A “low fertility trap” describes a self-reinforcing cycle, where low fertility rates (typically under 1.5) drive population aging and economic stagnation – which further deter childbearing and sink the figure even lower.

“China’s fertility rate should have been falling naturally as its economy advances, like a giant rock gradually rolling down along a hillside,” Yi said. “But the one-child policy kicked the rock right down the cliff – it’s extremely hard to lift the rock back now.”

State violence’
Online discussions in China about childbirth decisions are often dominated by economic concerns, but some have also thrown shade at the country’s one-child policy by sharing decades-old receipts for over-quota birth fines on Xiaohongshu, China’s version of Instagram.

“Childbearing isn’t just a financial matter,” said Lü Pin, a prominent Chinese feminist.

“Coercive family planning, as a form of state violence, has scarred women deeply … and people just haven’t got over it yet,” added Lü, who’s pursuing a doctorate in women and politics at Rutgers University in the United States.

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People pose next to a newly renovated statue with two more kids added to the original one-child family design in Hankou Park, Wuhan, in China's Hubei province on January 5, 2024.


Forced abortion and sterilization, arguably the most ghoulish facet of China’s one-child “social engineering,” have left an indelible mark on hundreds of millions of Chinese women, physically and mentally.

According to state-owned news outlet The Paper, between 1980 and 2014, 324 million Chinese women were fitted with intrauterine devices (IUDs) and 107 million underwent tubal ligations to prevent pregnancy.

Decades after the one-child policy’s introduction in 1980, those contraceptive devices – only meant to remain in women’s bodies for five to 20 years – have long outlived their safe stay.

But family planning officials, who once had performance targets to push women to fit IUDs after having their first child, now lack similar incentives to remove those devices in a timely manner, demographer Sun Xiaoming told The Beijing News, a state-linked newspaper.

“The government has stretched its hands far enough – even into common folks’ bodies!” Yi said.

Lü added that Beijing had not conducted any “open self-reflection, nor even admission (of the state-inflicted trauma).”

“Now it expects women to forget all this and embrace its lurch to birth boost? Fat chance.”

CNN’s Jessie Yeung, Nectar Gan and Simone McCarthy contributed to this story.
 
The thing about not having any babies is that the state can't decide they are somehow "illegal" or "not allowed" and take them away to be adopted out for money, including being sold to foreigners.

It happened in many countries around the world, China, Ireland, Australia.

The widespread stealing of children is not the sort of wound that closes in a family, or in a society, in a generation or two. It takes much longer to forget the missing family members, the ones who should be around the table but aren't.

The women of China have only to look at the examples of their own mothers, their missing sisters, to know that absolutely nothing the CCP says about "permissible" or "ideal" families can ever be trusted.

I would not be willing to trust that the state would let me keep my own baby enough to have them, if I was a young Chinese woman now. I absolutely do not blame them. You would be foolish to create human lives in reliance on the CCP saying it was okay for you to have babies... for now.

The CCP stole children. They sold them abroad to wealthy foreigners who were told these children were orphans, which overwhelmingly they were not. They seized 'illegal' children and put them in institutions deliberately to die of neglect. They encouraged people to 'give away' their 'useless' girls to these same institutions to die. They turned a blind eye to sex-selective abortion, and backstreet and illegal ultrasounds. They did nothing about backstreet abortionists, with all the sequelae that comes from that, knowing the costs in terms of long term infertility and maternal death that resulted. They quietly encouraged men and their families to force abortions on wives who wanted to carry their child to term. They forcibly sterilised women surgically, and even the so-called 'reversible' methods they used... weren't. If you open a gynae textbook, or a radiography textbook, there are still special sections devoted to recognising the 'Chinese type' of IUD, and dealing with the serious complications they often caused, which include infertility and death.

I was a young teenager when The Dying Rooms was first screened on UK TV. I well remember watching it for the first time. It seemed incomprehensible that this was taking place. The last Magdalene laundry closed in my lifetime.

These outrages, these unspeakable cruelties, didn't happen a lifetime or a cultural age ago. They happened to women of my generation. I was in my thirties before I finally had children, and I already had two children before the one child policy was lifted.

I cannot convey the instinctive horror I feel at the idea that government would have snatched my babies. I don't think there is a deeper fear in a mother. It is not possible for me to imagine a society in which this was a common experience for mothers. The widespread trauma passed on to those children's siblings, many of whom are still very young adults (some not even adults at all) must be unquantifiable.

You have to judge your government by its actions, and actions like that are so indescribable that you just could not ever trust them not to repeat them. No species on Earth will reproduce in overwhelmingly hostile conditions. The conditions over decades in China were overwhelmingly hostile.

It will be many, many decades, if ever, before those cruelties are forgotten.
 
I was a young teenager when The Dying Rooms was first screened on UK TV. I well remember watching it for the first time. It seemed incomprehensible that this was taking place. The last Magdalene laundry closed in my lifetime.
Yup, I must have watched it a few couple years later, but was also a teenager. I remember some time later I was doing some shopping at a Chinese-owned convenience store near my place, and the cashier, only slightly younger than me was overseeing a baby girl (presumably her sister) next to her. I looked at her and got a rush of happiness, with the reassurance that she would grow up loved and taken care of by her family, far away from Pooh's filthy claws or in those "dying rooms".

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They didn't just "disappear", they were sent to the "dying rooms". There was a documentary about it.

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Here it is, up on youtoob.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=555lqEol7SU
It's as harrowing as you can imagine, coming from the Sinos. If you don't want to ruin your day, skip the documentary altogether.
Considering that these are the same batch of retards that a fat balding Communist man managed to convince into turning in their farm equipment for pig iron (which fucked them up agriculturally), as well as exterminating the common sparrow (which led to a whole slew of insect plagues leading to rampant famine) along with turning all stop signs into red (which caused a whole slew of car accidents), this is malice caused by industrialized stupidity.

This is exactly why the troll serves an important purpose in society. Their job is to tell the people in power the damned retarded and leads to further disaster. And even if the people in power act exactly like lolcows and just ignore their critics as well as go forth with the retardation, the erstwhile troll would have their words heeded by the people around them, saving them from potential harm caused by stupidity. This was proven during the Wu-Flu years when all the warnings about the dodgy clotshot were true in the end. Lying press, lying leaders and those who believed them got fucked. Especially the redditors. As it worked much like a game of biological Russian roulette. And considering /pol/ was dead-on with Hyperinflation, the people who prepared accordingly are doing fine in these bleak times.

Let it be known: Trolls save lives.
 
I have an idea. What if countries didn't try to manipulate birthrates? They clearly have no idea what the fuck they're doing when they do it, considering china's lurch from over to under population in one generation.
 
“Coercive family planning, as a form of state violence, has scarred women deeply … and people just haven’t got over it yet,” added Lü, who’s pursuing a doctorate in women and politics at Rutgers University in the United States.
I can't even begin to imagine how scared women in China are that the government will reverse its policies and start murdering innocent babies anew.

Yet, debt-stricken local governments – including many that are struggling to recover from three years of strict pandemic controls and a loss of revenue from a real estate crash – can only carry them out on a shoestring budget, dooming the party’s birth boost attempt, according to Yi.
Of course the chinese government is stupid enough to try to incentivize women to have children after abusing them and murdering their children for decades. Like asking for a loan from a person you've robbed blind on several occasions and mocked their suffering. Dumb bastards.
 
I have an idea. What if countries didn't try to manipulate birthrates? They clearly have no idea what the fuck they're doing when they do it, considering china's lurch from over to under population in one generation.
They successfully manipulated it for the worse. But destroying is always far easier than creating
 
I thought that the 101km mark only applied to Moscow, you learn something new every day
I think it was originally, actually but got stricter over time like a lot of Stalin's policies.

I don't know the exact rules for which cities but basically if it was big enough and had enough important factories or military installations, you weren't allowed there. Or if it was a closed special-purpose city, the same rules applied. Magnitogorsk was definitely a no-go, that one definitely is memorable.
 
I think it was originally, actually but got stricter over time like a lot of Stalin's policies.

I don't know the exact rules for which cities but basically if it was big enough and had enough important factories or military installations, you weren't allowed there. Or if it was a closed special-purpose city, the same rules applied. Magnitogorsk was definitely a no-go, that one definitely is memorable.
In Kamchatka the entire peninsula was off limits as well, but that applied to all citizens and foreigners without an special authorization
 
I know what comes out of china can be propaganda but I distinctly remember seeing an article about a mother who had managed to keep her baby unnoticed and when she gave birth, a state apparatchik was there to inject poison into its scalp as the baby crowned so that it would be counted as a pre birth loss. The mother was utterly distraught

I’m not entirely sure the Chinese leadership are human, they certainly don’t act like it. And our leaders look up to their ppl it’s on freedom to emulate
I hope they go extinct
 
I know what comes out of china can be propaganda but I distinctly remember seeing an article about a mother who had managed to keep her baby unnoticed and when she gave birth, a state apparatchik was there to inject poison into its scalp as the baby crowned so that it would be counted as a pre birth loss. The mother was utterly distraught
As much as it makes them evil to individually poison each baby in an operating room I believe it’s much more realistic they toss the live babies down the baby trash tube to be hauled off and burned as biohazard. They might have moved onto crushing the skulls with the baby smasher like America. Knowing the Chinese, they would consider it a waste of poison.
 
I know what comes out of china can be propaganda but I distinctly remember seeing an article about a mother who had managed to keep her baby unnoticed and when she gave birth, a state apparatchik was there to inject poison into its scalp as the baby crowned so that it would be counted as a pre birth loss. The mother was utterly distraught

I’m not entirely sure the Chinese leadership are human, they certainly don’t act like it. And our leaders look up to their ppl it’s on freedom to emulate
I hope they go extinct
Jesus fuck oterly i just spent 15 minutes just holding my kid after reading this. I can't imagine how is it for that woman experiencing it .

This shit is soul crushing by just reading it.
 
324 million Chinese women were fitted with intrauterine devices (IUDs) and 107 million underwent tubal ligations to prevent pregnancy.

A quick Google says 660 million females in China. HALF of them were fitted with IUDs, plus an additional 100m had their tubes tied? That's 2/3 of your female population - I'm sure that some number of those IUDs have come out, but those were probably women taking themselves out of the market during peak fertility and risking permanent infertility in the process.

There's probably some overlap (going from IUD > tie), but I don't know how you come back from that, even if your fertile women were suddenly willing to have more than two children. Jaw dropping.
 
You could have had a lot more women if you didn't femicide a shitload of baby girls, China.
Wouldn't matter, Chinese women are, like seemingly all East Asian women these days, primed to despise marriage and children.

One child should have ended in 2008, 2010 at the absolute latest and honestly should have been a 2-3 child policy if ever implemented.

The CCP absolutely FUCKED its population demographics and is now reaching Japanese/S. Korean fertility/birthrates a solid decade or two ahead of schedule.

Retards
 
Western chinks will probably settle for central asians like kazhaks, they are having a population boom as of late, with a tfr of over 3, good relations with China already, and would like to have their money coming from a place that isn't Russis. Kazakh girls are also rather pretty and have the same height as chink girls, so insecure chink dude wouldn't have to worry about that.
Nope, they're Islamic/Muslim and most Central Asians don't like the Chinese much and would rather sell their unwanted daughters semi locally or to Russian brothels
 
Any time you're tempted to think of the Chinese as supersmart ultra-masterminds, remember that they didn't figure out until 2015 that each generation being 50% smaller than the last is a bad idea. However, note that our elites haven't figured this out yet.
Our elites just import the 3rd world constantly then get shocked when they end up living in the 3rd world.
 
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