🪦 Deceased Elizabeth Waite / John Waite Jr. - You did this, Rat King

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I think it says something damning when the "trolls" are the ones comforting and consoling a grieving ex-wife when their so-called friends are sharpening axes and want blood for a death that could have been easily prevented if they actually had some goddamn empathy.
 
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Buffalo Bill said:
Oh for fuck sake, this is a new low, even for you. She's dead and you're continuing to bash her after she is dead. You used to have the class to delete threads on people who killed themselves but no go ahead and keep alogging to advance your grudge against us. Whatever you say about the "so called" rat king, these people are my family and you are going to get what's coming to you.
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Too bad it wasn't you.
 
DerSandstrom said:
I think it says something damning when the "trolls" are the ones comforting and consoling a grieving ex-wife when their so-called friends are sharpening axes and want blood for a death that could have beem easily prevented if they actually has some goddamn empathy.
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We're more like gossiping house wives than trolls, painting our nails in a circle while giggling about the autistic man who lives down the street.
 
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Manapan said:
I don't like the idea of anyone making money off her death. I think she would have wanted me to put up a GFM because she did want to provide support for Tatoe (she's the only person I know who was *happy* about having their wages garnished for child support!), but I just can't make myself do it. It feels so scummy for anyone to try to profit off this.
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It's not scummy to ask for help when you need it. You aren't trying to make money from her death like Greta is, you need help with funeral costs and therapy for you and your son. Taking care of your son and yourself should be priority number one.
 
Dumpsterfire said:
It's not scummy to ask for help when you need it. You aren't trying to make money from her death like Greta is, you need help with funeral costs and therapy for you and your son. Taking care of your son and yourself should be priority number one.
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Somebody should tweet Greta that Go Fund Me, it'd be interesting to see what happens.
 
Manapan said:
Lizzy's sister Sarah has graciously taken up the responsibility of creating a Go Fund Me to pay the cremation expenses. I'm glad she is doing it, as it should help avoid having our creditors try to take the funds. If anyone is interested in donating, it can be found at https://www.gofundme.com/cremation-and-preservation-expenses. Thank you very much.
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Just a tip, I have no idea what state you're from but a lot of states (including my own) will have lower income funeral homes do cremations for free as they are paid by the government. You can either have a burial with a pretty decent casket or cremation if the next of kin demands it (which would most likely be you or her sister). You will receive a temporary urn (which is a decent plastic box with the ashes in a tightly concealed bag) but can definitely get the funeral home to transfer these ashes to a different urn of your choice when you have the money to pay for it. I would really try to connect with all the funeral homes in your area. If you're looking for direct cremation it's the way to go especially if you can't afford it. $6,000 is such a shit ton for a direct cremation. Even the direct cremations my area has done for people who could afford it were $900 including a few death certificates for the family.

If you would like to PM me your area I could definitely try to help navigate the laws in regards to funeral rights of your state.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
You're giving him too much credit. Phil lacks theory of mind, it wouldn't occur to him that people would go looking at the actual note. He expects people to take his word for everything.
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If I recall, a certain potato even shared said letter. How quaint.
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
Somebody should tweet Greta that Go Fund Me, it'd be interesting to see what happens.
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People are already being banned for questioning Greta. The tweets containing the link will probably be deleted or the accounts locked as well.

And they wonder why their stocks are dropping. Everyone went to China Twitter.
 
Manapan said:
We did have two weddings. There was a mass gay wedding taking place to celebrate the marriage equality ruling and it was a nice chance for her to get to be the bride, so we renewed our vows at it.

I think there's a misconception here. People seem to think that Lizzy was perfectly okay before she got the idea to transition and it's not true. Mental illness and substance abuse don't pop up out of nowhere. For the entire time I had known her she was interested in stereotypically feminine things and jealous of what she perceived as women having a better lot in life.

She discovered crossdressing, then came out as genderqueer. Iirc, this was around the time I miscarried our fifth child, so about April 2014. By June when John turned 3 she was identifying as bigender to me. By September she was out to me as a binary trans woman and had been through counseling about her gender identity. In October we started telling friends and family and she received approval from her therapist for hormones, then she never presented as male again except for job interviews. December was her appointment with the endo where she got the hormones.

Her family and I have had a lot of conversations about exactly what happened to change her so radically in such a short time. We all kind of feel like she got mixed up with people who reinforced being mentally ill and competed to see who could be the most broken. I think she was just trying to make herself feel okay but didn't know what to do.
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Not to be indelicate in your time of loss, but all of these things weren't a red flag for you that your partner was having severe mental issues that needed professional intervention?
 
JULAY said:
Not to be indelicate in your time of loss, but all of these things weren't a red flag for you that your partner was having severe mental issues that needed professional intervention?
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According to the company she kept, everything is just fine
 
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