Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

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Leaded Gasoline said:
why [do] linux users say stuff like... [it's] totally just like windows and you never ever need to use the terminal for anything
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I don't know. They're wrong.
Betonhaus said:
Usually it's an excuse to put someone down to feed an inferiority complex.
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I don't see how that is true. Free software can be viewed as a political movement, and like any such ideology, you will have ideologues attempting to recruit people - including lying about how computer illiterates who only know one thing can find it easily usable; This is never the case and never should be - it's a different system.
Leaded Gasoline said:
what even makes [giving all programs root access to the system whenever they want without asking the user and authenticating that it is the intended user at the computer] such a bad idea
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Because giving all programs root access to the system whenever they want without asking the user and authenticating that it is the intended user at the computer allows malicious programs / malicious updates to programs to do whatever they want to the system without asking the user and authenticating that it is the intended user at the computer!
I don't see how you can believe that should be default behavior.

For reference, Linux is a rather shitty desktop OS for non-experienced users; it is completely uninviting.

Linux took the server space by absolute storm, but has been playing catch-up to Mac and Windows in the desktop aspect since forever. Gnome 3+ has been a gay, flamboyant, art-project disaster that has turned many people away by ditching the desktop metaphor so many people are used to, forcing them to relearn the basics in a way that gnome 2 at the time did not, or fuck around installing a web browser add-on, which last time I used it only supported firefox (they are very easy to install without an addon, but that requires terminal usage or messing around manually with file names, which new users don't take kindly to), then installing desktop extensions that break with every few updates; lol.

KDE is very familiar, and Windows even took features from it such as quarter-window tiling (last time I used gnome, you needed an addon to have this basic behaviour!). However, it's not an IBM project, so it gets shafted in terms of not being the default on popular distributions.

In other words, you are being dumb by suggesting the above behavior should be default, but correct in other criticisms.
Leaded Gasoline said:
you can run windows without... UAC and never ['windows has never had any security vulnerabilities involving privilege escalation' (lol)] have any issues because of it
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With that one (1, see; singular) change I suggested, you can also run Linux like that...
With another change, you can have auto login without a password.
Leaded Gasoline said:
it was whatever the default is for mint... and i'm not reinstalling it again just to check
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Good to know I wasted my time finding a solution for you. 😓
 
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࿕࿕࿕ said:
Because giving all programs root access to the system whenever they want without asking the user and authenticating that it is the intended user at the computer allows malicious programs / malicious updates to programs to do whatever they want to the system without asking the user and authenticating that it is the intended user at the computer!
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This is a less big problem than you'd think. Giving root access lets a malicious program insert itself into something else, sure, but everything important on a computer will be owned by the user and is probably located under /home. That stuff is easily accessible without root (Windows has the same problem).

MacOS, once more, shows how it should be done: When software requests access to these folders the operating system will ask the user whether that should be granted.
 
࿕࿕࿕ said:
Because
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yeah i do understand why it's technically dangerous but people act as if you're gonna fucking die for turning it off, malware for linux desktops is practically non-existent because no one runs that shit, and as for an unintended user being at the computer... how hard is to just turn off the damn thing when you're not using it? it deters most people from touching it but those that decide to do it anyway were likely going to ruin your day even if you had authentication enabled
࿕࿕࿕ said:
I don't see how you can believe that should be default behavior.
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the default should be to not force a password on the user and warn of applications requesting elevated access, like on windows

࿕࿕࿕ said:
Good to know I wasted my time finding a solution for you. 😓
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that one is on you, i literally said that i was not trying to set up linux for daily use and at least one of my screenshots show it running on a virtual machine
 
snov said:
MacOS, once more, shows how it should be done: When software requests access to these folders the operating system will ask the user whether that should be granted.
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>cp /Users/user0/Desktop/backup.zip.gpg /Volumes/USB0
>Hangs for 5 seconds
>Erm, would you like Terminal App to access files in Desktop?
>Click 'yes'
>Hangs again
>Erm, would you like Terminal App to access files on this remote drive?
>Click 'yes', again
>Does what I told it to

I added Terminal to the programs allowed full-disk access, but it felt over-board.
However, I do agree.
snov said:
everything important on a computer will be owned by the user and is probably located under /home
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I disagree; If a program wanted to wipe all my disk encryption keys for auto-decryption, all my system config files, the BTC and XMR blockchains I store outside of ~ for multi-user access that took me a few weeks to download, everything in /var, etc. I would be upset that important stuff got deleted...
Leaded Gasoline said:
the default [for Linux should exactly match the default for] windows [the system I am personally used to using (MacOS doesn't do that).]
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Ok, whatever.
 
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snov said:
if you’re that averse to the terminal
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I'm averse to having to be online and doing a "small" update everytime you want to install anything, I'm averse to having root access to fix stuff when installs fail. I started with dos, I occasionally use archive extractors that are clr only. I'm used to command lines and other convoluted proccesses giving me more power and control than gui, not less, like retarded "app" stores interfering with terminal installations.
 
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My biggest shame is that when Open Genera leaked I wasn't able to get it running on a DEC Alpha emulator.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Getting really sick of this communist kikery. Just woke up to a faggy copilot data sucking app on my taskbar. Does anyone know how to remove Microshaft's gay shit that I didn't consent to (microshaft edge very much included)? I'm not shocked at all by this mutt-programmed machine learning though - the gay smile emojis, the commiefornian nu-speak, the fake niceties, the big brother cocksucking. It's not even AI (which they've used like a meme to try and sell you shit the past few years) it's just biased human-programmed machine learning used by Americanda's oligarchs to rape society further and help them create and control all context.
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Step one: pull the TPM out of your computer.
Step two: install Windows 10.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
No, I'm just aware that Windows 11 won't install without it.
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TBF, it's stupidly easy to disable at this point. I'm not saying it's not bullshit or you average user is going to do it, but there are tools available that easily help you create an install media where requirements like having an online account and TPM are disabled at this point.
 
Never Scored said:
TBF, it's stupidly easy to disable at this point. I'm not saying it's not bullshit or you average user is going to do it, but there are tools available that easily help you create an install media where requirements like having an online account and TPM are disabled at this point.
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Even Rufus will do it. It's as simple as checking a couple boxes in the advanced section when making the bootable usb drive
 
Never Scored said:
TBF, it's stupidly easy to disable at this point. I'm not saying it's not bullshit or you average user is going to do it, but there are tools available that easily help you create an install media where requirements like having an online account and TPM are disabled at this point.
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So are they now hard wiring TPMs into new motherboards now? I remember a TPM as a chip you had to install on the board yourself.
 
Overly Serious said:
Is this the general complain about Microsoft thread? Because...


I know it's kind of a Linux thing but it just drives home how Microsoft really is one of the worst things about Windows.

Love Windows.
Love me Powershell.
Hate Microsoft, simple as.
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Remarkably based replies until some retarded tranny/Indian shows up and starts doing that thing where he acts like he's not furious at all that anyone questions the DEI agenda, followed by a few other like-minded assholes. Whenever that happens, I figure the thread got posted in some Discord channel and they're invading to shut down dissident.
 
Pissmaster said:
Remarkably based replies until some retarded tranny/Indian shows up and starts doing that thing where he acts like he's not furious at all that anyone questions the DEI agenda, followed by a few other like-minded assholes. Whenever that happens, I figure the thread got posted in some Discord channel and they're invading to shut down dissident.
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Note the guy's join date is 2024, whilst he argues with Phoronix users who have probably been working in Linux for over a decade.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Getting really sick of this communist kikery. Just woke up to a faggy copilot data sucking app on my taskbar. Does anyone know how to remove Microshaft's gay shit that I didn't consent to (microshaft edge very much included)? I'm not shocked at all by this mutt-programmed machine learning though - the gay smile emojis, the commiefornian nu-speak, the fake niceties, the big brother cocksucking. It's not even AI (which they've used like a meme to try and sell you shit the past few years) it's just biased human-programmed machine learning used by Americanda's oligarchs to rape society further and help them create and control all context.
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i use winaero tweaker and revios and deliberately never update

i use winaero tweaker to take ownership of the folder edge is in then stop the program in task manager and delete the folder, then edge is uninstalled

winaero tweaker can also remove copilot
 
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