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[Betonhaus]

Further changes also rely on which desktop environment you use. I was trying to set a login pin on kubuntu only to learn that the login manager uses the default pam.d file and so cannot be changed independently.

 

[Susanna]

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am i doing something wrong? the file looks different for me but it seems like the changes only affect the terminal prompts, which is the same issue i had years ago

It looks like you made the change correctly. Unfortunately that's all the help I can give you, I've never used Mint.
What you could do is update by running sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade instead of the GUI. With your new sudoers config this wouldn't require a password. You can make a file "update.sh" containing:
#!/bin/bash sudo apt update sudo apt upgrade
and set that to run automatically once per day. If you don't set "run in terminal" on the configuration, it'll be invisible and happen in the background, just like on Windows, but it won't alert you if there's a problem so you'll still want to run it manually every now and then just to make sure it's actually working.

You could also set automatic updates using a systemd timer. That's the best solution, since it doesn't require you to compromise your system with an insecure sudoers config (any malicious script can elevate permission and wreck your VM with that sudo config). Debian has presets for this, so presumably Mint does as well:
sudo apt install unattended-upgrades sudo systemctl enable apt-daily
This should automatically install updates each day.

 

[Leaded Gasoline]

This should automatically install updates each day.

thanks for the tips but i'm not trying to set up linux for daily use, i was just checking if what 419 replied with was correct. it kinda was but you still have to do more config file fuckery to fully remove the annoyances that only take 5 seconds to permanently disable in windows

 

[Haftag]

You can make a file "update.sh" containing:
#!/bin/bash sudo apt update sudo apt upgrade
and set that to run automatically once per day

Hate to quote myself but

"terminally online"

 

[Susanna]

Hate to quote myself but

Yeah? Don’t use Linux if you’re that averse to the terminal. It’s not windows or macOS, Linux is a command line OS first, GUI second, unlike windows which is a GUI OS with a surprisingly capable terminal tacked on after the fact, or macOS which is a command line OS that puts GUI first.

 

[geckogoy]

Don’t use Linux if you’re that averse to the terminal

 

[anustart76]

You could also set automatic updates using a systemd timer. That's the best solution, since it doesn't require you to compromise your system with an insecure sudoers config (any malicious script can elevate permission and wreck your VM with that sudo config). Debian has presets for this, so presumably Mint does as well:
sudo apt install unattended-upgrades sudo systemctl enable apt-daily
This should automatically install updates each day.

This is probably the ideal way to do the automatic update, but I don't know that I actually recommend doing the updates automatically; there's a few problems with that. For one, if something like your browser gets updated, it'll just be killed while you're using it so the package can be updated. Additionally, it's good to use apt's autoremove and autoclean every so often to make sure you're not getting cluttered up with unneeded packages.

 

[Susanna]

For one, if something like your browser gets updated, it'll just be killed while you're using it so the package can be updated.

Is this behaviour unique to apt? My experience is that Linux will happily update a running application, which may or may not promptly break, or merrily run asking for hours until it randomly loads something that is not incompatible and crashes then, or just keep running just fine until you close it if it happened to load all its binary into memory already.

I do agree automatic updates are not a great idea though. Especially not if you’re using a rolling release, it will eventually break.

 

[anustart76]

Is this behaviour unique to apt? My experience is that Linux will happily update a running application, which may or may not promptly break, or merrily run asking for hours until it randomly loads something that is not incompatible and crashes then, or just keep running just fine until you close it if it happened to load all its binary into memory already.

I do agree automatic updates are not a great idea though. Especially not if you’re using a rolling release, it will eventually break.

I'm not sure, I don't remember how other managers handled it; it could be that the programs I've been using are just breaking as the package is updated by apt, and I'm seeing that as the program getting killed.

 

[geckogoy]

Ubuntu ships with snap which is a satanic globo homo self updating piece of shit, but you can just remove it. Apt will never do anything you dont ask it to.

I have an uptime of 62 days, my highest was six months, and i dont update shit

(i will also switch to debian eventually ubuntu is a bit shite tbh)

 

[rochokenko]

shit show 10 force upgrade again similar shit dune with 11 now know going let win 12 this year and all fucking ai with inbend. personaly say at sec fuck nvidia for ai shit baking into cards as well. fund some china cards step away form ai stuff hard blocking lot window ai shit latly seen some test in all of that shit show going bigger in later part of the year as well...... https://www.windowscentral.com/soft...i-features-and-everything-else-we-know-so-far example plus remote turn off take away people keys. as https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/generative-ai-rtx-pcs-and-workstations.someone kown try us ai make a pc cypdo miner runing win 11 long side it other guy asking way his stuff get massed with a bit. keeped over heating. card blow out. he matched china cards he switching been runs lot smoother now. helped him switch arch/ freebds along side it. take this a warning for shit seen next few month . my see in next few months keep lmao.

 

[HahaYes]

complete gibberish

I get where you're going with fuck AI/windows/chyna/closed source etc, but are you having a fucking stroke nigga?

 

[Aljam]

I'm here from Linuxland and I came to laugh at all the windows ltsc 10 and 7 users.

Ding DONG

Time to update faggots.

 

[Pissmaster]

I'm here from Linuxland and I came to laugh at all the windows ltsc 10 and 7 users.

Ding DONG

Time to update faggots.

<- you when whatever software you're trying to run just won't work and you spend five hours trying to fix it only to eventually have some tranny tell you that some driver you need only exists as a closed-source one on Windows, so therefore you don't need that software anyway

 

[࿕࿕࿕]

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does this count as a sudo prompt? these are so annoying and unnecessary

That's not sudo related, it's most likely polkit.
I'd recommend you use commands instead of graphical package managers, but if you insist on being a nigger:

Following this, create '/var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/disable-passwords.pkla', This seems out of date.

Following the tranny wiki, create '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/49-nopasswd_global.rules' and add:

polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
    if (subject.isInGroup("sudo")) {
        return polkit.Result.YES;
    }
});

'This will result in automatic authentication for any action requiring admin rights via Polkit. As such, be careful with the group you choose to give such rights to.
Replace [sudo] [with] any group of your preference.'

Ubuntu is queer; The relevant group seems to be 'sudo' instead of 'wheel' or 'admin'. Check what group your user is in by running 'groups'.

 

[Leaded Gasoline]

I'd recommend you use commands instead of graphical package managers, but if you insist on being a nigger

why don't linux users say stuff like this when people show interest in trying out linux? it's always the same bullshit about how X distro (usually mint) is totally just like windows and you never ever need to use the terminal for anything

I don't know why you feel compelled to use linux if you're going to do something as retarded as the above statement because you are mad at typing a password every month when you update, but here you go.

this isn't about system updates, it asks for the password every time you try to install or remove a program. gets tiresome really fucking quick when you're burning through the Great Value™ alternatives to the windows programs that are not on linux

something as retarded as the above statement

what even makes this such a bad idea that no distros ever give you a simple checkbox for it? you can run windows without a password or UAC and never have any issues because of it

Check what group your user is in by running 'groups'.

it was whatever the default is for mint, that install was running off a ramdisk in hyper-v and i'm not reinstalling it again just to check

 

[Gargamel]

Is this behaviour unique to apt? My experience is that Linux will happily update a running application, which may or may not promptly break, or merrily run asking for hours until it randomly loads something that is not incompatible and crashes then, or just keep running just fine until you close it if it happened to load all its binary into memory already.

I do agree automatic updates are not a great idea though. Especially not if you’re using a rolling release, it will eventually break.

I haven't had any problem. Firefox will simply force you to restart when you try to open a new tab or load a new page. Most anything loaded into memory will continue to use the old version, and I believe this includes shared objects. With apt, any relevant services will be restarted, but its not guarranteed that this will leave your system in a fully functional state. With pacman, following a kernel update, any kernel modules that can be unloaded will be, and you can't reload them, which effectively forces you to restart your system eventually.

Ubuntu ships with snap which is a satanic globo homo self updating piece of shit, but you can just remove it. Apt will never do anything you dont ask it to.

I have an uptime of 62 days, my highest was six months, and i dont update shit
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(i will also switch to debian eventually ubuntu is a bit shite tbh)

Ubuntu is moving more and more of the core OS into snaps. Eventually you won't be able to effectively use Ubuntu without snapd.

This inevitable eventuality is one of the reasons I dumped Ubuntu.

this isn't about system updates, it asks for the password every time you try to install or remove a program. gets tiresome really fucking quick when you're burning through the Great Value™ alternatives to the windows programs that are not on linux

Updating your system and installing or removing packages is usually the same thing on Linux.

Almost always, installing unpackaged software will also require superuser privileges, because the files will be put somewhere where you don't have write permissions.

 

[Betonhaus]

why don't linux users say stuff like this when people show interest in trying out linux? it's always the same bullshit about how X distro (usually mint) is totally just like windows and you never ever need to use the terminal for anything

Usually it's an excuse to put someone down to feed an inferiority complex.

 

[ZMOT]

you when whatever software you're trying to run just won't work and you spend five hours trying to fix it only to eventually have some tranny tell you that some driver you need only exists as a closed-source one on Windows, so therefore you don't need that software anyway

speaking from windows experience?

 

[Celebrate Nite]

you never ever need to use the terminal for anything

Most cases yes, but sometimes you'll come across something that you'll need to use the terminal in one form or another.

If said Linux distro doesn't have a GUI updater, then you'd most likely be running

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

If you're using WINE, and you're trying to figure out why something won't run in it, then you'd be running

cd ~/[filepath to where program is located]
wine [insert program name (with extension such as .exe) here]

The terminal will spit out the process it goes through to determine if you have the necessary drivers, and most of the time it'll be some Visual Studio/C++ shit or DirectX related. or even a missing audio/video codec

But the most common comand line you'll use is if you're building something from source, and -almost always- the command is as simple as

cd ~/[path to source/build folder]
configure
make
sudo make install

• Configure makes sure that your distro has the necessary dependencies that the program in question requires
• Make is self explanitory... it makes the program from the source
• Sudo Make Install sticks it into your distro just like a windows install.

Sometimes the make command might have something after it, sometimes it'll be "CMAKE' instead of regular make, sometimes you might have to do a little more configuration before the make, but otherwise it's not as hard as a lot of people make it out to be. The people that make the programs are nice enough to give you a step-by-step on how to build and even tell you in advance what depenencies you need. -Almost- Any error message you encounter is eaily google-able. Really, the only road block you might encounter is if you're using a distro that doesn't have support for a latest version of a distro (e.g. having support for QT5 but not QT6)