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Epoch said:
Do the side content, that makes up the bulk of the game. The main story is very lacking due to Nintendo wanting online features so the story got gutted for a custom player character. The side content is the best in the series and fleshes out the characters really well. Doesn't mean the main story doesn't have hints of the Xeno stuff, its the strongest its been since Xenosaga near the end, but its cut short, and a lot of story concepts were re-used for Xenoblade 2 and 3, you will know them when you see them.

It's the best playing game in the series IMO.
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I put 130 hours in to XB 1, 230 into XB2 and probably 40 into FC and Torna combined, you can bet your ass I do sudequests.

Doing this and then hopefully 3 later this year before I look at the Xeno thread.
 
whatever I feel like said:
I put 130 hours in to XB 1, 230 into XB2 and probably 40 into FC and Torna combined, you can bet your ass I do sudequests.

Doing this and then hopefully 3 later this year before I look at the Xeno thread.
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X is 300 hours for 100%. Playing 3 after X is actually a good idea due to very similar plot themes, might be worth playing or replaying Xenogears sometime before 3 as well. Future redeemed I also recommend playing after the Xenosaga series, or at least just refresh yourself if you have already played them.

X is closely related to Saga, its sort of like what Saga is to Gears in terms of a remix. Future Redeemed is like a neat bow at the end of all of it that ties the themes of the entire series together, and 3 is a lot like Gears with its themes.
 
God, my Wii U beeps like a fucking fax machine whenever it needs to load anything. :(

Edit: which one is Future Redeemed, again? Never touched XG.
 
whatever I feel like said:
God, my Wii U beeps like a fucking fax machine whenever it needs to load anything. :(

Edit: which one is Future Redeemed, again? Never touched XG.
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As epoch said, it’s the expansion for 3. I was disappointed by a lot of things in 3, but FR is legitimately great. The amount of stuff they squeeze into that comparatively tiny map is incredible.
It does heavily reference stuff from the other Xeno series, but I think it’s going to be addressed in a future game, so I wouldn’t go out and play all the Xenosaga and Xenogears games right now if you haven’t already.
 
Buttigieg2020 said:
so I wouldn’t go out and play all the Xenosaga and Xenogears games right now if you haven’t already.
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I'm not saying to play them because of the references, instead because of the thematic points that are integral to 3 and FR. You could play them without, but playing 3 with the knowledge of Xenogears just makes the story that much better, and the same for Xenosaga because of it's upper/lower domain, Zohar, and eternal recursion stuff. 3 has a lot to its story that it just doesn't tell you or point out, but its there, and without the knowledge of the series history you might miss out on some genuinely interesting plot points or story themes. Obviously saying to play 4 80 hour JRPGs is a big ask of course.
 
Also, despite having wanted to play XBX for literal years, now that I started a playthrough I have the immediate urge to play Mario 3D World instead. I brought the 3DW+Nintendoland bundle but used, and the guy who sold it to me said that they had erased the hard drive, and yet there the two titles are staring up at me on the main screen. Did I luck out and get two free games (that I also own physical anyway and thus have gained nothing but look Cat Mario is right there staring at me and nyanning from the start screen.)
 
Epoch said:
I'm not saying to play them because of the references, instead because of the thematic points that are integral to 3 and FR. You could play them without, but playing 3 with the knowledge of Xenogears just makes the story that much better, and the same for Xenosaga because of it's upper/lower domain, Zohar, and eternal recursion stuff. 3 has a lot to its story that it just doesn't tell you or point out, but its there, and without the knowledge of the series history you might miss out on some genuinely interesting plot points or story themes. Obviously saying to play 4 80 hour JRPGs is a big ask of course.
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I just had my mildly autistic friend explain that all to me. I saved several dozen hours that way.
whatever I feel like said:
I lack the time to play X plus all the XG games,so no worry there.

Anyways, this is my first Wii U experience and man is it rough. Really feels like a Switch prototype. And the constant bitching to connect a Nintendo ID, in order to access the (now disabled) online functions.
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It was in more ways than one. Unfortunately it was held back by the technology Nintendo was willing to use.
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Two Dollars said:
The online doesn’t shut down until April, unless you’re talking about Miiverse.
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Oh, so what does going online in XBX actually entail for the game, then?

And did they fix the thing where Nintendo Network IDs were getting hacked two or three years ago or whatever it was? I don't want to buy some filthy fucking Russian vbucks or whatever was going on.
 
whatever I feel like said:
Oh, so what does going online in XBX actually entail for the game, then?
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XCX used to have a 'squad report' feature that would pop up in the top left corner where achievements pop, this functioned like a game chat, but this worked through miiverse so that no longer works. I used to use it to tell people where squad tasks were or to ask to squad up for missions.

The other parts of the online are Squad Tasks, which are like a bounty where you are tasked to collect items or kill enemies of a type, tracked on the bottom right, doing so awards Reward Tickets and boosts your ranking in the Division Drive, I think this is shared with people in the same division as you and you all get Reward Tickets from anyone completing them. You can use Reward Tickets at the online terminal to purchase enemy materials (VERY VERY VERY helpful, especially when doing endgame crafting for the Ares 90), and completing tasks also awards event passes which allow you to challenge the Global Nemesis.

The Global Nemesis is essentially a raid boss where you squad up online with other players and deal damage to the boss. It has a hundred thousand lives or something, and you have a timer to kill it as many times as you can, rewarding some good materials and boosting your Division rank. There are only two different global nemesis (nemesi?) which are low level reskins of the game's two highest level super bosses and are technically non canon.

There are also online missions where you team up with other players to kill enemies in linear levels, which also rewards materials and stuff. I think you can do these offline, and there are a bunch of unique enemies and items with little lore bits in these. It also lets you challenge story bosses again, its essentially the combat challenge mode from Xenoblade 2 that got added to 1 and 3.

It's essentially for crafting materials and stuff, there is a bit you can access without online but the game will be a lot harder to grind when online goes down, luckily Cemu has cheats to enable Squad Tasks and Global Nemesis offline.

Your Division ranking get scored at the end of the week and based on your division's standing you get bonus rewards, also contributing to your division nets you bonuses as well. The game really doesn't tell you this stuff, so its worth reading the e-manual which is actually really informative and has a button in the game to open.
 
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whatever I feel like said:
Oh god, so its an MMO? I thought this was mostly single player?
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offline MMO-lite essentially. I would say the grinding is closer to a monster hunter lite than an MMO. You can completely ignore the crafting system the entire game unless you want to minmax hard. I only ever really interacted with it to get the endgame Skell, the Ares-90, which requires materials from the superbosses but you can also just buy the materials with tickets. There is also an item drop rarity which provides extra augment slots on weapons.

There is also some skimpy armour that can only be crafted, but that is locked until you complete the main story anyway.

All the online missions can easily be done solo.

If you want the game to be a cakewalk, when you get your Skell after chapter 6, buy the G-Buster sword. This will carry you to the final boss, but if you ignore your ground combat you will get screwed, its a trap essentially.

The online stuff is disconnected from the rest of the game and is more like a bonus mode you can choose to interact with if you want. The bulk of the game is questing and exploration without any online component.
 
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SSj_Ness said:
What kind of hellish filler is needed to reach that length?
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Not as much as you would think, there is a lot to do in the quest department. The rest is either level gated collectables (as in you need max out your BLADE rank and then do a secret quest to get the field skill required to open them) or Tyrants, of which there are 251, and 8 of those are superbosses, that you need to kill to fill out the map.

Main story is about 100 hours if you aren't rushing, and that only makes you do the character questlines of the main 3 party members, and there are 18 party members all with their own questlines and custom classes. The game is absolutely massive. This also doesn't technically include maxxing out every player class, of which there are 16 with unique arts from completing party member questlines.
 
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