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Adults joining a children's game competitively reminds me of this. I can't really put it into words.
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Games up until Platinum and arguably Black/White were actually decent, so that would move the goalpost to early 2010s. Then, it would be an accurate statement and I would agree with you.
Pokemon's battling mechanics are actually a lot more indepth than you would think. That's the beauty of it: A literal child can play and finish the single player portion, but good luck competing in Battle Tower clones or on Showdown without doing your research on every anal and obscure facet of the system and keeping up with how every single pokemon works and evolves by the way of metagame.
High level competitive play is something else, I would argue that you haven't actually played the games at all until you experienced it in some capacity.
I recommend "False Swipe Gaming" and "BKC" channels to get a primer on how more competitive side of the franchise works. If you're actually new to the whole concept, FSG is especially better since he breaks down not just how every pokemon did in every generation but also talks about every generation's specific metagame and what shaped it, why and how that specific pokemon fit(or failed to fit) in it.
BKC is a sperg like me that makes hour + long videos on whatever he feels like it, you need some context for most of his videos that you can get from FSG but he can show you just how indepth the games can get. A far cry from just mindlessly pressing A to get past trainers in single player, which is more or less just the tutorial for the main course in my opinion.
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It's not that the games can't have complexity because even kids pick up on rules and strategies. But it's telling a kid he's not playing the game right by not running a eugenics program on the field mouse he found cute so he caught the first one and it's his new best friend.
I went to one of the trading card game learning competitions as a kid where it was an event for kids to learn how to play the card game against other kids with someone supervising and teaching; I was the only actual child and my parents then took me home.
He watched too many NatGeo docs on elephants.
Ever since the first third version, really, it was just money.
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That's a lot of words I'm not reading. Sorry that it happened. Or happy that it did.
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Disagree, Third Versions were justified in their purchase due to the amount of content they added and new direction each director could take with the story(every third game version to and including Ultra games were done by somebody else than the main director of the franchise, that also includes Arceus if you count that as a "third game" to the Gen 4 remakes)
I had no problem buying third versions since I knew I would get more pokemon, bug fixes(if need be), more story + events ect. as well as the likes of Battle Frontier , move tutors and new variants of Pokemon like Rotom forms. More of the same plus a new save file. With the little walled garden Gamefreak made, it made sense and I didn't mind it, notice how the franchise fell in the shitter once they stopped doing these and focused on patches plus DLC. For all the talk about "third version bad", Emerald and Platinum(and Crystal to an extent) are still some of the best games in the franchise.
Oh, and for the record, if that's your argument for when the Pokemon games went bad...Even the first gen had a third version in the form of Yellow version, and cut content suggests they would probably go with a second third version in the form of "Pink version" if they didn't want to dedicate more time to the upcoming Gold and Silver releases instead. Gamefreak hasn't changed, it was all about money from the start, third version bad is an argument done in bad faith(usually in my experience from people who think that dexit and DLC is no big deal either)
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Yeah, that is my issue with it. I like to just catch the first one I find and use that for my play through. They act like those people that breed a bunch of snakes to get more expensive ones who store them in plastic boxes on a shelf by the hundreds and insist they don't mind. I notice it's mostly adults dominating a kids game taking the fun out of it for them. They waste far too much time on something that doesn't matter and no one will be impressed by.
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All Bouffalant do is drink malt liquor, run from police and lie.
The only bootlegs I legitimately hated were the Walmart brand Hitmons.
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got bdsp because i was bored and was thinking about it for a while + am a complete cracked out nostalgia junkie.
it's not as fun or awe-inspiring as i remember as a kid but i was like 7 + i've been spoiled by the 3d game formula from xy and onward. it's something to do and i like putting stickers on the poke balls
it's not as fun or awe-inspiring as i remember as a kid but i was like 7 + i've been spoiled by the 3d game formula from xy and onward. it's something to do and i like putting stickers on the poke balls
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the clother are creepy and the faces so ugly even hariyama mogs em.
Who thought they might be a good idea to create? They have to sell merch at least and throh looks like a creepy doll that brings bad luck.
The ice cream cones from the gay western artist are dogshit.
but the rest are pretty dope (except the three elemental monkeys)
Starter trio is legit better than the stupid waifu furry shit we're getting since Gen 6
Who thought they might be a good idea to create? They have to sell merch at least and throh looks like a creepy doll that brings bad luck.
The ice cream cones from the gay western artist are dogshit.
but the rest are pretty dope (except the three elemental monkeys)
Starter trio is legit better than the stupid waifu furry shit we're getting since Gen 6
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I'm shocked how inferior that game is to Platinum, which was released about 15 years ago. Every remake tried to do something different or to fix underlying issues with the originals, even ORAS that people seem to hate. BDSP has nothing, it's a poor man's port of the original DP with a few bells and whistles and just as many misses and removed features. Not even going to comment on the lack of Battle Frontier or whatever, that's just a pipe dream by now.got bdsp because i was bored and was thinking about it for a while + am a complete cracked out nostalgia junkie.
it's not as fun or awe-inspiring as i remember as a kid but i was like 7 + i've been spoiled by the 3d game formula from xy and onward. it's something to do and i like putting stickers on the poke balls
Oh and for whatever reason, these remakes are so poorly thought out that they are actually much buggier than the original games. I've seen videos of people breaking the game without even trying, last time I saw that was in the Gen 1 games(this is not a complement btw)
Gen 5 remakes are going to be a disaster at this rate. I noticed that both Platinum and HGSS have jumped up in price last I checked, glad I am holding on to these games so I don't have to make due with the inferior remakes in the future. Less spoken of how fans can fix these games better than GF can via mods and romhacks the better, too(for free btw)
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I always forget the exist and when I remember they exist, I'm reminded of when a board got spammed with really fucking disturbing porn of them that I still don't get to this day what even the fucking fetish even was.
Furries are awful but Pokefurries are downright bizarre.
The not-Poliwrath one looks like he has boils, too.
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I will not look it up.
All pokemon based on food look off, it's a concept that doesn't work imo.
Some older ones who resemble the shape of food, like cherubi and vespiquen are okay i guess, but the obvious ones dont fit into the line and are disgusting to some point (slurpuff, appletun) . cant say y, just feels not right.
Seismitoad is awesome
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The food based ones only work when it's something natural just animated or something normal disguised as food like pastry dog. Combee was a honeycomb is fine because it just combines a bee with its hive. The "haunted pantry items" are all around mid to me because they just feel a bit lame. Sushimon is just from an entirely different franchise. The cake sucks. The ice cream sucks. Whipped cream sucks. All of the "it's just a fruit or fruit tree" ones vary to decent to just okay but none are that awful. Jack-o-latern is endearing in a way. All mushroom but Breloom suck.
He looks like he was made for some N64 Zelda and it's not an insult but there's something about him that falls too much into the weird territory of design.
Edit: Slurpuff is just a lobotomy patient looking horror.
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I mean, as long as GF don’t outsource the remakes like they did with DP we should be fine. Quality will at least be GF standard buggy mess and not what BDSP was.
That’s the funniest shit. Everyone was sat there screaming that Game Freak should out source. And now they are begging them never to do so again.
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Thing is that BDSP is still better than SV and SwSh simply because the source material it's based on is. GF is unredeemable in it's current state, and I don't expect anything out of them, but an outsourced studio might have a chance to create something decent. Genius Sonority and Third Versions(which had different directiors) have shown much higher quality than what the "A studio" usually produces, so the bar isn't too high.
Oh, and since we're talking about the remake, I noticed a few small pieces of censorship and shoehorned black NPCs scattered around. By itself, this is not a big issue, but it should be noted that the previous remakes did not have this issue. This goes to show that there might be TPCi meddling that is behind at least some of the core issues that every single modern Pokemon game has, and that means that a simple developer change won't solve anything. It also means that Gen 5 will likely be ruined beyond belief as well, since tokenism and a race mixed couple were there at launch. I can only imagine current year horrors that they might try to virtue signal there.
Images of what I was talking since the site seems to be shitting itself on my end:
Thing is that BDSP is still better than SV and SwSh simply because the source material it's based on is. GF is unredeemable in it's current state, and I don't expect anything out of them, but an outsourced studio might have a chance to create something decent. Genius Sonority and Third Versions(which had different directiors) have shown much higher quality than what the "A studio" usually produces, so the bar isn't too high.
Oh, and since we're talking about the remake, I noticed a few small pieces of censorship and shoehorned black NPCs scattered around. By itself, this is not a big issue, but it should be noted that the previous remakes did not have this issue. This goes to show that there might be TPCi meddling that is behind at least some of the core issues that every single modern Pokemon game has, and that means that a simple developer change won't solve anything. It also means that Gen 5 will likely be ruined beyond belief as well, since tokenism and a race mixed couple were there at launch. I can only imagine current year horrors that they might try to virtue signal there.
Images of what I was talking since the site seems to be shitting itself on my end:
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Going to say that a lot of the smaller issues are caused by that. The amount of bs that’s in the localised is silly. And since we now have world wide launches you don’t get the window of time the older games have to iron out the larger issues for world wide releases, until the DLC And the smaller issues are basically in the game from the start just to make things easier.
Switching to same time/day release for everywhere was honestly bad.
DLC for S/V brings a lot of fixed but it’s sectioned off into areas so those qol aren’t everywhere. Which was the benefit of havibg 3rd games. Everywhere had to have them
Think a reason a lot of the older games were better is the devs seemed to think or be approaching it from ‘this is the last game, needs to hit’ and some of the issues the newer games have had is the old staff that made the classics and are clearly tapped and trying to hand it over to new talent but the talent just is not there yet. So you get things like SwSh and S/V.
You saw what happened when they made a game they actually cared about. You got Arceus, which was not being torn to shreds by the Community every 5 seconds.
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>2 Minute loading screens that were not there at launch
>Glitches that will never be fixed and stability patch NEVER
lol, lmao. I forget that people spend money on this.
Also, I never want to hear anyone say that Diamond/Pearl are slow ever again. At the very least, that game is 100% functional, both now and at launch
The DLC looks cringy as fuck, it's clear they spend all the time designing the characters and new pokemon and the rest was the usual slop job. It's disappointing to see GF give so little of a fuck about Spain that they immediately went back to a Japanese related region not just within the same gen, but within the same GAME. Embarrassing, makes Galar look downright soulful.
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Whenever I see this kind of take I usually chalk it up to people not knowing how TPCi structures its sanctioned events, they actually have age divisions in their events so scenarios where you'd see a 10-year old kid getting the absolute shit beaten out of them by a someone 2-3 times their age is usually impossible. And I say usually because I've only seen play between divisions in more causal settings like prereleases.
Agreed. It was also downright demonic in the TCG as Seismitoad-EX during the early XY-era days thanks to Hypnotoxic Laser, Virbank City Gym, Garbotoxin Garbodor, Float Stone, Muscle Band, and Double Colorless Energy being Standard-legal at the time.
You're close but you're slightly off, IIRC the issues are due to Game Freak poorly managing its veteran and greenhorn teams. Remember when GF said that it was prioritizing its Gear Project initiative (which gave us tiltes like Harmoknight, Tembo the Badass Elephant, Pocket Card Jockey, and Giga Wrecker) over Pokémon? Well, if the rumors I've heard are true then the "Team 1" working on original IPs mostly consists of veteran developers whilst "Team 2" is mostly run by new recruits.
That glitch was corrected in the 2.0.2 patch released a couple of days ago.