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I'm sure there's some pretentious Latin term for this fallacy, (reducto ad absurdum, maybe, or is that a Harry Potter spell?) where you keep proposing more and more ludicrous scenarios until your opponent is too bewildered to go on, but the more I see it it just comes across like a really weird parody of Monty Python's 'what have the Roman's ever done for us' sketch.

"Okay, so if we could 3D print a female skeleton and replace each bone in my body, rebuild the flesh and organs like Terminator so I had all the physical components, functions and proportions of a woman, if we could recode my DNA to be female, retune my vocal chords to have a woman's voice, wipe my memory and replace it with X years lived experience as a woman...then would you call me a woman?"
They're trying to come up with so extravagant a scenario that they obtain any form of concession - "ok in that impossible scenario I guess" so they can pull the classic tactic of "Aha you concede sex isn't immutable, and therefore if it isn't immutable you've just got a subjectively high threshold for its mutability. Argument defeated.".

It's kinda like the old joke -

"Would you sleep with me for £50 million?"
"I'd consider it."
"Would you sleep with me for £5?"
"Of course not, what sort of woman do you take me for?"
"My dear, we've already established what sort of woman you are, we're just negotiating your price".

Thankfully this sort of tactic rarely convinces pragmatic normies - epistemological philosophy tends to be met with people going "yeah but that's not real, is it?". It's just showboating so the seals in the audience can clap along.
 
While Latenightmuffin pointed to the obvious answer, I think they also fantasize about killing people because they want power and are too stupid/emotionally stunted to acquire it through a skill or something. It boost their ego to think about it since it shows they're physically superior. Or they just like hurting people because of the power high and they think it's funny.

just to chuck another reason in here: some are drama queens. If every slight is LITERAL GENOCIDE, then killing evil cis terven scum is just self-defence. They are the heroes of their own story, and some write a script in which they larp as embattled brave trans heroes fighting for their lives. Think that makes farmers the walking dead.
 
They're trying to come up with so extravagant a scenario that they obtain any form of concession - "ok in that impossible scenario I guess" so they can pull the classic tactic of "Aha you concede sex isn't immutable, and therefore if it isn't immutable you've just got a subjectively high threshold for its mutability. Argument defeated.".
This is exactly why I say the only winning move is not to play. No matter how accurately you define the model, they'll just keep adding more and more caveats and pulling one-in-a-million medical marvels out their ass to say your model doesn't match every instance so therefore it's useless.

Luckily, as you say, most people are able to recognise this disingenuous garbage for what it is, I just wish more people would start ignoring them instead of engaging their bad faith bullshit, but I appreciate that can be difficult when faced with such glaringly stupid arguments.
 
I just wish more people would start ignoring them instead of engaging their bad faith bullshit, but I appreciate that can be difficult when faced with such glaringly stupid arguments.
To be fair, what do normies say when someone starts talking about the gender equivalent of the time cube? :story:
 
To be fair, what do normies say when someone starts talking about the gender equivalent of the time cube? :story:
The same as when the homeless dude at the bus stop says the government are monitoring him through his fillings so he ripped his molars out. Smile politely and leave the area as fast as possible.
 
Came across a particularly gross specimen today

This troon gets off on being "misgendered" (hopefully he doesn't come across the farms lest he coom to death)
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Here's him apparently drinking blood and just generally looking like a gross faggot
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He talks like a TERF
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But it doesn't stop him from being one of those 'rapists, perverts, groomers & men who pretend to be girls'
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I'm not retarded enough to decipher this
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He had his kink tattooed on his body
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His whole blog is pure nightmare fuel and I think this sums the fetid horse-faced retard up
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Just found out that when this retard isn't cooming to being called a tranny, he's sticking needles into his skin
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He's also a complete schizo on twitter where half the posts sound like it's written by a terf and the other half is pure seething and dilating
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Perhaps the most baffling troon I've ever come across.

Here's the links to his socials for anyone wanting to witness the full train-wreck
 
What have we here?

POCD is an unfortunate aspect of OCD where people are convinced/terrified that they are a pedo, cos it the worst thing they can think of to be.
Also applicable, intrusive thoughts about doing horrible things, murder, omg I am an evil person etc.
Well now we have R/CisOCD!

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A messy one…


pOCD is a interesting topic; here is a Slate Star Codex article about it. Personally I think Mallory Ortberg's brother Johnny probably had pOCD and that her and her husband's behavior in that scandal was Kinda Fucked Up Actually.

Obviously, troons are not battling a variant of pOCD; they are battling their self-awareness.
I hate current-year neologisms. “pOCD” sounds so lazy, I'm pretty sure a hundred years ago we would've come up with a cool latin/greek word for it.
 
Ten years from now when there's like 5 million of them, they'll turn on each other. Trannies already kill other trannies but it will be much worse. You can't be special if there's too many trannies around. Put a million trans people on an island and they wouldn't last 10 years.
 
Serious question, how long before one of them actually attempts a shooting spree? They've been gassing each other up for a while now with all this genocide talk and they seem to be ramping it up. I feel like it's coming.
 
Ten years from now when there's like 5 million of them, they'll turn on each other. Trannies already kill other trannies but it will be much worse. You can't be special if there's too many trannies around. Put a million trans people on an island and they wouldn't last 10 years.
I would absolutely watch the shit out of a reality show called Troon Island where they dump a cohort of “BPD ADHD tism disabled xe/xir catgender” misfits and film them fighting for a bowl of rice and a dry bed.
 
I would absolutely watch the shit out of a reality show called Troon Island where they dump a cohort of “BPD ADHD tism disabled xe/xir catgender” misfits and film them fighting for a bowl of rice and a dry bed.
Now this is the representation that we need. Survivor Island transexual edition would be one for the ages.
 
Another narcissistic tale of grandeur: "As I passed them I stood up on my peddles, dick and titties flapping in the wind, and yelled “suck my lady cock” at them.":

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Ah yes, nudist block parties. Haven't we all stumbled upon a nudist party in our day?

Seriously though, these fantasies are absurd. An elderly Karen was right up to a naked be-moobed male and makes a comment? No.
 
TiM was mad about pregnant woman at work.

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Serious question, how long before one of them actually attempts a shooting spree? They've been gassing each other up for a while now with all this genocide talk and they seem to be ramping it up. I feel like it's coming.
They will probably try it in a blue state where they are protected. If they fire the first shot, the will know what true genocide is. It wouldn't take a week to eliminate them.
 
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“AM I BEING SEXUALLY HARASSED?”

A young dood isn’t sure.

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The other bros chime in:

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Very confusing… Why would a man feel sexually harassed from an occasional flacid dick pic?

Pretty sure that most guys here would just shrug if some weirdo sent them one.

Weird!
The fuck is this shit?
If some guy sent me a pic of his dick I'd laugh at him and think he's a faggot.
If he kept doing it I'd fucking slap him round the head next time I saw him in person.
Its not something guys do, at least not that I've ever seen, its weird as fuck.
I'm guessing he knows she's a Pooner and is fucking with her, but it's still fucking weird and gross.
Fucking faggot lol. :story:
 
Turns out the older lady's disgust was correct, lol:

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Another narcissistic tale of grandeur: "As I passed them I stood up on my peddles, dick and titties flapping in the wind, and yelled “suck my lady cock” at them.":

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Yknow, thinking about it, has there ever really been a "sissy sex toy used by a group of men"?

Like maybe this is a bit naieve of me. But no straight men would willingly have sex with a man, much less in a group setting. Gay guys would, but presumably would be turned off by the sissy aspect.

So that basically leaves bi guys who are maybe in denial or the guys who'd bang anything. But would they really indulge the sissification aspect of it? They'd literally be using him like a piece of meat and would not care about catering to his fetish.

Like unless you were able to get a room full of GAMPs together I doubt it, and at that point it's essentially like organising a bunch of escorts. I think the only people who'd really do something like this are troons (since they seem to get up to this stuff at furry cons and the like), and that probably doesn't count to a "getting used by a bunch of alpha men" aspect. They want to be the sissy.

Still, sissy stuff aside this doesn't sound like a very healthy fantasy, it's almost like he doesn't love himse-
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Ah.
 
I was hate-reading elsewhere on the Internet earlier today and stumbled across a post from someone who casually referred to Ron DeSantis, the current governor of Florida and likely 2024 Republican presidential candidate, as "Fuhrer" DeSantis. I was astounded that nobody appeared to take umbrage; it seems to me that regardless of your specific views or party affiliation, it's egregiously offensive to suggest that anything happening in the United States right now even approaches the atrocities perpetuated during the Holocaust. You don't have to like or agree with Ron DeSantis to see that comparing a democratically elected governor to fucking Adolf Hitler really minimizes the suffering of the millions of innocent people who were killed by the Nazis.

Have these people no sense of perspective? It's truly perturbing that other people are apparently willing to let these false equivalences stand as legitimate discourse.

I actually wonder if part of the issue is that most Holocaust survivors who were old enough to actually remember the policies and rhetoric of the Nazi regime have likely died within the past few years. If there's nobody left who understands what it truly meant to be a Nazi, it becomes a lot easier to convince people that the United States in 2023 is too a fascist regime and troons are going to be shoveled into the ovens. It seems like it's always the Holocaust they're comparing their suffering, too - you don't really see any of them comparing the totally real troon genocide to the manufactured conflict between Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of Congo/Zaire or ethnic cleansing perpetuated in the former Yugoslavia. I guess a lot of troons are pretty stupid, poorly educated, and incurious about anything outside of their fetishes, so perhaps they're just not aware of the specifics of any major historical atrocity except the Holocaust.

Everything about these people disgusts me.
Jason Stanley, the grandson of Holocaust survivors, spends his days telling JKR she's a fascist on his twitter. The children/grandchildren of Holocaust survivors are all too keen calling TERFs Nazis. It's like drinking water for them.


As a terf, I am just going to say if you are going hit me with "I am legally female" argument, I will just point out there are laws that are morally and ethically corrupt that people should and do disobey which very valid reasons.

AKA not recognising you legally, socially, biologically or in anyway as female.
He petitioned the government to change his documents, and yet he can't do the feminine thing and clean his fucking room.
I'm honestly shocked that Jamie Raines / JammiDodger doesn't have her own thread in this forum. They seem to have a wealth of things you could laugh at. Although her YouTube videos have seemed to devolve to just reading Reddit shitposts.

Her Twitter must be a goldmine if she's posting shit like this:
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Just yesterday, they had a whole video poking fun at "men writing women". Odd coming from a woman pretending to be a man and spreading lies that "men" can get pregnant.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-7Lip-F7pdQI've always had a theory that troons and their handmaidens are obsessed with calling women and men "cis" because deep down, they know the term "trans-man/woman" is "othering" to them. And their narcissistic minds don't want to be "alienated" like the freakshows they are.

A few days ago, they made a video about "Cis straights" trying not to be troonphobic. At around the 4 minute mark she goes into some word salad about a "she" using "he" pronouns being a "he" and no longer a "she".
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4U457S8yDmISince her wife is from a Muslim family and of South Asian ancestry, I've always wondered if the family eventually "accepted" her relationship, because according to her, she is in a "straight" relationship. IIRC, the Persians or some West Asian shithole encourage their gays to become troons.
Link. Archive.

She has a recurring series on her channel called "Pointlessly Gendered", where she complains about things being "needlessly gendered". Yet again, ironic coming from a troon.
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She was also on a video with Mama Doctor Jones, who refuses to use the word "woman" in any of her videos. She is an "ally", so naturally she was in agreement that men can get pregnant and menstruate.

And yes, she "went straight" to get with her Muslim girlfriend and proceeds to state she's better than those cissy straights. She's retarded, full stop.
My question is why are so many troon arguments entirely based on bullshit hypotheticals that cannot and will not ever happen?

I watched that little Breadtube creep LonerBox debate King Critical the other day and he was acting like he totally fucking owned the TERF chud with facts and logic by presenting the argument, "Well, what if we both switched bodies, so your mind was in my body and my mind was in yours? Would you still be King Critical? Would I still be LonerBox?"

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I like King Critical, but he was way too generous to that argument and it was embarrassing to try and watch him attempt to argue it in good faith, when what he should have done is turned around and said: "We don't live in 'Freaky Friday', LonerBox, you monumental bellend."
LonerBox, the rape apologist, being dishonest? Shocking. He basically got away with calling Count Dankula a Nazi, supporting white supremacists and all that. This fucker is as disingenuous as you can get. Also denied the Muslim grooming gangs so there's that.

He should've asked him why the fuck he knew what a camera was at five if he didn't know what his own goddamn mother was.
This is exactly why I say the only winning move is not to play. No matter how accurately you define the model, they'll just keep adding more and more caveats and pulling one-in-a-million medical marvels out their ass to say your model doesn't match every instance so therefore it's useless.

Luckily, as you say, most people are able to recognise this disingenuous garbage for what it is, I just wish more people would start ignoring them instead of engaging their bad faith bullshit, but I appreciate that can be difficult when faced with such glaringly stupid arguments.
I disagree. That's how shitheads like LonerBox grew his channel: by promoting bullshit that never got called out. He doesn't know what a mother is, but he knows what a camera is.
 
Now this is the representation that we need. Survivor Island transexual edition would be one for the ages.
Imagine how many diversity tick boxes they’d check with Gender Island.
IMAGINE how peaked the viewers would be seeing a troon vote someone off bc they forgot wolf’s pronouns.
Naia on the Island NOW.
I’m ready to put a pitch together but need a willing troon to produce.
 
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