MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.

Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)

 

[melty]

Vlad the Impaler (and the Mongols) had it right. Horrifically execute your enemies and send a clear message that any other enemies will suffer the same fate. Being "humane" is a farce when your enemy doesn't play by the same rules. ISIS will run pissing in their pants.

Spoiler: Fun for the family

• Compelled to drink molten lead
• Burning on the stake
• Machine gunning
• Quartering
• Hanging, drawing, and quartering
• Drowned in boiling water

Don't want to be subjected to these deaths? Then don't join ISIS.
EDIT: I'm not 100% serious. Maybe about 25-33%.

Make all these executions carried out solely by women and I agree they'll be pissing their pants. Die horrifically and you don't even get to go to heaven? No one is going to sign up for that.

 

[DuskEngine]

Because she's going to keep starting wars and keep selling no-bid contracts the globalists who own this fucking country.

You can just say Jews dude no point being coy about it

 

[JU 199]

A fucking men. It's astonishing how many people just want to sit around with their thumbs up their asses and watch the world go down in flames.

Yeah it's better to just pour fucking petrol on everything and make it burn quicker.

Don't forget that Trump has historically been against all the wars we've started

That's not true. Trump did what he always did- Felt the crowd and said what they wanted to hear.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophe...n-the-iraq-war?utm_term=.kiX8KW9ML#.hoo1wWKnB

fact check.org link shows how his support shifted around http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/

 

[melty]

Tell me something honestly. Suppose tomorrow one of your family members turns out to be a converted islamic terrorist or whatever like that, and has successfully carried out a hit. You knew nothing, had suspected nothing. Would you accept execution simply due to being their relative?

Of course no one would, but it would probably cut out a lot of this "oh gosh I knew he was radical but I just had nooooo idea he pledged alligence to ISIS!" Shit we see ala San bernardino

 

[JU 199]

Today trump is winging about that judge with a little too much Mexican heritage in him.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...trump-bernie-sanders-clinton-california-judge

Trump: judge 'is a Mexican'

Finally Tapper moves on to ask about Trump University, which the businessman says has had “thousands and thousands of people have said great reviews, great reviews.”

“It’s gotten tremendous marks. I don’t mean, like, two people, I mean thousands.”

Tapper asks about Trump’s accusation of bias by the federal judge overseeing the lawsuit against the enterprise, which alleges it defrauded people of tens of thousands of dollars.

“This judge is of Mexican heritage,” Trump says. “I‘m building a wall, I’m building a wall.

The judge, Gonzalo Curiel, was born in Indiana and is an American.

“He’s a member of a society that’s very pro-Mexico and that’s fine, that’s fine,” he continues. “I think he should recuse himself.”

He then starts a new conspiracy: “Does he know the lawyer on the other side? And a lot of people say yes, and I don’t know, and that’s a problem.”

Trump repeats himself over and over again. “I’m building a wall, OK? … He’s of Mexican heritage, and he’s very proud of it, and that’s fine, as I am.”

Tapper interrupts, repeatedly: “But he’s an American …”

“It’s a case that should’ve been dismissed already,” Trump says. “He lets the plaintiff off the case out.” The case is a class action suit, so the removal of a lead plaintiff is not that unusual.

Trump continues: “I’ve had lawyer s come up to me and say you are being treated so unfairly, it’s unbelievable … If he was giving me fair rulings I wouldn’t be talking to you this way.”

Trump’s lawyers have not asked the judge to recuse himself. Appellate courts have repeatedly held that “matters such as race or ethnicity are improper bases for challenging a judge’s impartiality”, the second circuit ruled in 1998.

Tapper points out that Paul Ryan and Hillary Clinton have lambasted Trump for the remarks.

“Paul Ryan doesn’t know the case,” Trump says. “Hillary Clinton is a stiff.”

Then he spins yet another conspiracy theory, saying that “these people” have approached attorney generals around the nation trying to induce them to sue – the lawsuit began before the presidential campaigns.

“We’re building a wall. He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico.”

The judge is from Indiana. He is an American.

“We’re building a wall. He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico.”

 

[Null]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophe...n-the-iraq-war?utm_term=.kiX8KW9ML#.hoo1wWKnB

>BUZZFEED
Mate, go fuck yourself.

This is their new tactic. They call him inconsistent.

Today trump is winging about that judge with a little too much Mexican heritage in him.

Not just Mexican heritage, he's got La Raza connections. Do you know what La Raza means? "The Race". He's got connections to Hispanic-Mexican Nationalist organizations.

If Trump had any connections to the fucking KKK people'd be pitching a fit. I mean, Clinton does, but she's a woman so it's OK.

 

[Ruin]

@Null Can we autoplay Trump speeches on the front page for a few hours to trigger some snowflakes?

 

[JU 199]

>BUZZFEED
Mate, go fuck yourself.

A broken clock is right twice a day- it doesn't make them wrong. I linked fact check.org too. It's not like it's unsupported evidence

Here's more- poltifact agree's with both.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-his-early-opposition-iraq-war-wa/

Not just Mexican heritage, he's got La Raza connections. Do you know what La Raza means? "The Race". He's got connections to Hispanic-Mexican Nationalist organizations.

You got any evidence for that?

 

[Null]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-his-early-opposition-iraq-war-wa/

Politifact does the same shit as Buzzfeed. You drink from a polluted well. The word of the day for you is lugenpresse.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...tacks-judge-rile-latino-legal-experts-n585471
>In his most recent comments to the Wall Street Journal, Trump defended referring to federal district Judge Gonzalo Curiel as Mexican - although he adjusted that reference to Mexican heritage in his most recent comments, saying Curiel's Mexican roots and former membership in La Raza Lawyers Association, based in California, posed a conflict in the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_La_Raza
>The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) (La Raza, or The Race[1]) is America's largest Latino advocacy organization. It advocates in favor of progressive immigration reform policies, including a path to citizenship and reduced deportations.[2][3][4]

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-who-paid-675000-to-bill-and-hillary-clinton/
Includes screencaps showing that the judge has belonged to La Raza.


The judge is a political opponent of Trump who belongs to and was fostered by a group that stands for everything Trump is against. That is about as much conflict of interest as it gets. Would you not agree? If I was somehow the presiding judge of a cyberbullying case, would you not agree that that is not a fair trial because my political beliefs and involvements would skew my judgement towards a direction vastly unfavorable of the prosecution? Yes, of course you would, but because the MSM is able to twist this into a hate crime and racism people gobble it up.

 

[Falcon Lord]

>BUZZFEED
Mate, go fuck yourself.

This is their new tactic. They call him inconsistent.


Not just Mexican heritage, he's got La Raza connections. Do you know what La Raza means? "The Race". He's got connections to Hispanic-Mexican Nationalist organizations.

If Trump had any connections to the fucking KKK people'd be pitching a fit. I mean, Clinton does, but she's a woman so it's OK.

http://sdlrla.com/#

Curiel is a member of the La Raza Lawers of San Diego, an innocuous Bar Association with no connections to the National Council of La Raza, which is the organization Trump supporters are accusing him of belonging to.

 

[Null]

http://sdlrla.com/#

Curiel is a member of the La Raza Lawers of San Diego, an innocuous Bar Association with no connections to the National Council of Last Raza, which is the organization Trump supporters are accusing him of belonging to.

Standing corrected, it is still a legal team with stated investments in mexican americans and their immigrants. It's thankfully not a radical fundy group, but it still posits conflict of interests -- especially considering it's original name was "The Race" lawyers and it was founded only a few years after the actual La Raza.

I read an article that said this argument was "ludicrous" because we wouldn't stop an NAACP judge from presiding over a trial, but it's not that he's a judge, it's that he's a judge overseeing a case with a defendant who is politically diametrically opposed to him. It's at least worth investigating to see if the trial was fair or not. As for an NAACP member, no, I would not an NAACP member presiding over my case if I was being accused of crimes related to race or if I was politically outspoken about issues the NAACP. I would also consider that unfair.

Though, there is an innate false equivalence between comparing La Raza and NAACP. NAACP petitions for Black American rights, La Raze petitions for illegal immigrant's privilege to America.

 

[wagglyplacebo]

 

[Captain_Asshole]

Trump's America looks coldly efficient, rewarding to those who work hard, and devoid of senseless empathy. In other words, it sounds like a successful business.

It does sound like a successful business. For whom?

 

[autisticdragonkin]

It does sound like a successful business. For whom?

For American-Americans.

 

[Lorento]

For rich American-Americans.

Fixed.

 

[APerson]

The judge is a political opponent of Trump who belongs to and was fostered by a group that stands for everything Trump is against. That is about as much conflict of interest as it gets. Would you not agree? If I was somehow the presiding judge of a cyberbullying case, would you not agree that that is not a fair trial because my political beliefs and involvements would skew my judgement towards a direction vastly unfavorable of the prosecution? Yes, of course you would, but because the MSM is able to twist this into a hate crime and racism people gobble it up.

No. That's not how it works!
If I was a rabid misogynist and said horrible things about women, and I went on trial for something unrelated, I couldn't call oppression for having a woman judge.
If I was an anti-Semite and said horrible things about Jews, and I went on trial for something unrelated, I couldn't call oppression for having a Jewish judge.
If I was an SJW and said horrible things about CISWHITEHETMEN, and I went on trial for something unrelated, I couldn't call OPRESHUN (I probably would, but you get what I mean) for having a male judge.
But since Trump's a racist being tried for something else, he gets to call that it's bias on the judge's part?

 

[piripiri]

No. That's not how it works!
If I was a rabid misogynist and said horrible things about women, and I went on trial for something unrelated, I couldn't call oppression for having a woman judge.
If I was an anti-Semite and said horrible things about Jews, and I went on trial for something unrelated, I couldn't call oppression for having a Jewish judge.
If I was an SJW and said horrible things about CISWHITEHETMEN, and I went on trial for something unrelated, I couldn't call OPRESHUN (I probably would, but you get what I mean) for having a male judge.
But since Trump's a racist being tried for something else, he gets to call that it's bias on the judge's part?

Yeah he's suddenly a racist now he's running for office. I'd have to question why Hillary and Bill accepted donations from an obvious racist. Or was he not a racist back then?

 

[XYZpdq]

Yeah he's suddenly a racist now he's running for office. I'd have to question why Hillary and Bill accepted donations from an obvious racist. Or was he not a racist back then?

He was, but he was brought to heel.

 

[Guardian G.I.]

We aren't discussing the elections anymore, so I'll go off-topic with this reply:

Yes, and that is Russia making a Faustian deal with one Islamic leader who has, for example, defended honour killings because it is apparent that men own their wives, and in another instance promised to organise violent protests against newspapers that reprint Charlie Hebdo cartoons. This is largely indistinguishable from the Islamic world that Russia supposedly hates, except that it is politically allied to Putin's rule.

To be honest, independent Chechnya of the 1990s, the state that was crushed by Russian forces in 2000, was significantly more similar to the Islamic State. They had sharia laws (brutally implemented), slavery (Chechen gangsters were known for kidnapping women and children in Russian territory, who were later sold at slave markets in the capital Grozny), and used hostage taking and raiding as a source of income. Western mass media, however, was firmly pro-Chechen during the first war in 1995 and especially during the second one in 1999 - they portrayed the Chechen side as freedom fighters struggling for independence against Russian aggression, and claimed that the atrocities, like the beheading of 4 Western hostages in December 1998, were committed by 'unknown' rogue forces and not the Chechens. Meanwhile, thousands of ethnic Russians, Ingush, Armenians and other people had to flee Chechnya to escape ethnic cleansing and persecution.

Chechen Islamists also pioneered the kind of execution videos recorded by ISIS today back in the 1990s - there are some surviving videos of Chechens brutally murdering Russian POWs on Liveleak and YouTube.


EDIT: Russian army in Chechnya in the 1990s used the exact strategy that is reportedly advocated by Trump now - massive artillery and air bombardment of Chechen targets regardless of any possible civilian casualties. As a result of Russian bombardment, Grozny turned into this.

 

[DZ 305]

We aren't discussing the elections anymore

Good point...can we move this discussion to its own thread? So people don't have to wade through the sperging?