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Really makes you think. Is this why he is cancelling it? It is a very clear way to track his lazyness.
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Link to Pillar of Garbage's EFAP takedown:
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Link to Pillar of Garbage's EFAP takedown:
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With regard to the Southpaw and SK video, note, about 9 minutes have been cut. The long and short of these 9 minutes is SK noting Callum (Mauler) is in a stream with Nerdrotic and AZ (HeelvsBabyface) and they say something to the effect of they won't comply with compelled speech and using preferred pronouns. SK then berates Callum for condoning what has been said because he doesn't say anything about it. The cut happened around 3:21:20 of his video, but S.K says this:
"I think this is inherently discriminatory. And discriminating against minority groups has the potential to result in suicides amongst trans peoples, so I feel this kind of rhetoric is extremely dangerous to just toss around like they are."
He says this because Callum says nothing. Because Callum says nothing, he's guilty by association.
In other words, they guy says he "stands by" what he said, but still deleted the section.
This is their follow-up, although it takes them forever to talk about anything:
As far as the whole EFAP fallout, both sides are equally at fault, to be fair. If you've heard his conversation with Wolf, SP completely blew past the fact that Wolf was trying to explain how it's not a good idea to call your friends rape apologists. Instead, SP decides to focusing on the clerical details of what Wolf says, trying to skirt around it like a he is on trial or something.
Basically this:
Wolf: "Why did you call me and my friends rape apologists?"
SP: "Well, if you skip to this time code in Terriers, you'll find you missed a very important detail..."
No joke, that's really how SP interacts with people.
"I think this is inherently discriminatory. And discriminating against minority groups has the potential to result in suicides amongst trans peoples, so I feel this kind of rhetoric is extremely dangerous to just toss around like they are."
He says this because Callum says nothing. Because Callum says nothing, he's guilty by association.
In other words, they guy says he "stands by" what he said, but still deleted the section.
This is their follow-up, although it takes them forever to talk about anything:
Southpaw and SK collect everything people say to them like they're receipts and edits everything in a way that makes them and theirs look like the good guys or the victims. Don't get in a call with these guys, they'll record everything you say and use it as "evidence" against you like the internet is one huge courtroom. SP even calls it "evidence" as if he's some private investigator and every friendly chat is an interrogation he needs to record.
As far as the whole EFAP fallout, both sides are equally at fault, to be fair. If you've heard his conversation with Wolf, SP completely blew past the fact that Wolf was trying to explain how it's not a good idea to call your friends rape apologists. Instead, SP decides to focusing on the clerical details of what Wolf says, trying to skirt around it like a he is on trial or something.
Basically this:
Wolf: "Why did you call me and my friends rape apologists?"
SP: "Well, if you skip to this time code in Terriers, you'll find you missed a very important detail..."
No joke, that's really how SP interacts with people.
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Bolo_the_Second
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Glass onion was fine for what it was. I just don't get where people are coming from when talking about this movie.
People bashing it criticise the movie for not being a poorly conceived Agatha Christie-esque "Whodunit", having the movie introduce plot points out of no-where, non-sensical misleading interactions, and overall a weak scritp. And the people who liked the movie use the lampshade argument that the point is to be dumb and "poorly writen", because the villain is a pompous dumbass, so there is no clever plot because the rich idiot is just an idiot.
And I don't get both arguments. Look, these Knives out movies are not trying to be mystery flicks, they use the framing of one to tell another story, as far as a "detective story" goes, these movies are just a parody with no real intention with engaging the audience to work along to solve a case. The first movie, at least in the first half, tried to be one, but the mid point twist shows that the story was about something else. Glass Onion doesn't even try, there is no mystery, we know all along who the villain is. So I don't get why bash the movie for not being "Murder in the Nile".
Said that, the argument "It was supposed to be dumb!!! it is in the name (Glass onion)!!!!!" is stupid. I hate lampshading in fiction, when a story goes out of it's way to wink and nod at me to say it knows it's bad craft. It is the same as a fat guy telling fat jokes, and self-deprecation doesn't mean you are getting any less fat, or you movie is getting any less stupid. And that is the problem with Glass Onion, yes, i get that it is just a lampoon of a murder mystery, yes, i get that the whole plot feels stupid to reflect on how stupid the villain character is, but that doesn't change that what the movie is actually trying to accomplish is shallow and derivative.
And that is the main issue with Glass Onion (and knives Out also), it is "baby's first social commentary". Oh wow, rich people are self-absorved and dumb, never heard this one before!!! Making fun of out-of-touch wealthy people has to be one of the most tired topics of social critique possible, and if you have nothing else to add to that, then what is the point? Am I supposed to clap along when the movies makes fun of Elon Musk/Steve jobs as if I never heard that one before? Why? Because it is commentary, because it has "something to say", even if it was already said a dozen of times before just this year?
Ah whatever. Look, Glass Onion is Hollywood Liberal as fuck, so if you are tired of that bullshit, don't bother. But if you can stomach it, the movie itself isn't all that bad, the actors seem to be having fun, dialogue isn't all that great, but you do get some funny bits here and there, and if you liked the first one, Glass Onion will do fine with you.
Dunno what to say, pedestrian opinion for a pedestrian movie, that is all there is here really.
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So fucking gay holy balls.
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Calling it out for what it is, people can no longer divorce the medium from its creators or directors. It's funny how the hate and anger that has come about as a result of how poorly received TLJ was has spiraled into people hate-watching Rian Johnson films to the extent that Rian Johnson is more popular than he really deserves to be. The "Glass Onion" title might as well be Rian Johnson giving the finger to his critics. He knows the game and he's going to play it. Best medicine is to either ignore him or shut up about him. Of course, nobody does because that's show biz for the social media click-bait anger-mongers.
I think the people in charge of the promotional side of Disney have figured this out about the internet critique machine as well. Just get Moses Ingram to post a short video on how Star Wars fans are racist and the internet explodes and, suddenly, everyone is talking about the Obi-Wan Kenobi show. Ironically, EFAP and other podcasts that rely on leeching other people's content are doing more to promote said content rather than illustrate to people why said content is actually detrimental to the artistic medium in general.
dustnight
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On top of that they're actively hostile at the thought of not talking about the popular thing to grift on the second it comes out (despite them having tons of things they haven't seen or the ongong review TFA, or GoT ect.) and make strawmans to try and justify it.
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There is an art to making humor out of intentionally stupid plotlines, but it still requires a form of logic. You're just trading one form of order (consistent plot) for another (creating maximum amusement). It isn't as simple as lampshading dumb choices and I'd be disappointed in Rian if that's what he went with, since I really enjoyed Knives Out.
A movie about minority rich people being self-absorbed and dumb could be landmark cinema because it's practically unexplored territory. All we have now are movies that are so preciously sincere that they almost appear to mock that demo, but don't (Crazy Rich Asians).
This is true, but also - TLJ was Rian giving the finger to the Star Wars fanbase. What did they ever do to him? He took the keys to the biggest franchise in movie history* and turned it upside down just to show how clever he was. Not that it was destined for great places after TFA, but still. Seems like he just likes to troll.
*The MCU is obviously bigger by box office but up until TLJ/TROS, I would argue that Star Wars had a much bigger cultural footprint. This is reflected in the domestic gross of TFA, which carried it over $2 bil despite underwhelming reception in China.
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It's ouroboros. The snake eating its own tail. It's not even about the art medium anymore, it's about one tribe on YouTube scoring points for them and theirs against another tribe.
You'd almost suspect some of these cycles were deliberate. Like the most important thing to these guys is if some randy on YouTube has an inflated number of subs or views on their videos. The end result is more traffic for the people they shit on. What this does is fill YouTube with streams full of people just talking into the wind over things that other people have put time and effort into. The entire machine rewards laziness. Callum certainly doesn't ever need to publish another video ever again because a single 5-hour stream pays his rent and them some.
This is even how the "Fandom Menace" sustains itself. Disney doesn't need to change anything--it receives enough negative press from people who purportedly "hate" what they produce that all they need to do is cater to that by continually perpetuating even more woke bullshit.
The reality is, EFAP and podcasts like it can't really sustain themselves without leeching of something substantive. They're parasites. They're hypocrites. And if you challenge the system, you get ostracized which is exactly what happened with Peter (Southpaw). It's really hilarious to consider the fact that Peter and his goons spent the better part of a year gathering dirt on EFAP all because they gave a poor review of some police procedural show.
Now, my hope is that their lack of any scripted content will catch up to them, sooner or later. There will be a point where their "loyal" fans will jump ship and find something that gives a better buzz.
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Eventually Mauler will be forced to choose between wokies and righties. The EFAP-adjacent persons that has made that the best have been are the Drinker because he makes fun of wokeshit but is not full on "black character = bad" and LittlePlatoon who has made arguments that he doesn't like criticizing wokeshit for being woke, but because wokeshit tends to be bad regardless.
Mauler on the other hand has entirely avoided the subject instead of making a clear statement that is not in the middle of some 9 hour podcast where he says "Hey I don't care about wokey points in movies, I just wanna talk about their narrative cohesion".
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Look what's happened over just a few years:
I doubt Peter (Southpaw) has ever legitimately been a friend to anyone in his life.
Also, the video featuring his "private" conversation with Wolf is also gone. Someone recently was asking about it on Reddit as well:
This is so stupid. Peter has an explanation for everything. See, what you hear with your own ears is not true because he didn't explain to you what you heard. This is exactly how the EFAP crew cover their own tracks. They never lie, it's always someone else who took them out of context.
I doubt Peter (Southpaw) has ever legitimately been a friend to anyone in his life.
Also, the video featuring his "private" conversation with Wolf is also gone. Someone recently was asking about it on Reddit as well:
This is so stupid. Peter has an explanation for everything. See, what you hear with your own ears is not true because he didn't explain to you what you heard. This is exactly how the EFAP crew cover their own tracks. They never lie, it's always someone else who took them out of context.
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I.B. Niggin
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You know what, Terriers is pretty good but Southpaw is a whiny, smug faggot and he deserves nothing but the worst
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I don't think even his "loyal" fans will ever jump ship. It's similar to YMS's situation actually, they have surrounded themselves by yes men without identity. Although, Adam's case might be worse considering those yes people are all degenerate weirdos, Mauler's fans still need someone to tell them what to think. It only takes reading the comments on their EFAP podcasts and Reddit "defenses" to see that.
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The people they surround themselves with eventually coerce them into making really stupid content or saying really stupid things. Like Adam's whole rant about Tim Pool he did about a month ago was extremely cringe. He is also constantly doing reaction videos while simultaneously making excuses as to why he hasn't finished his Lion King (2019) review. On top of that is his admitting he doesn't actually watch an entire movie before giving it a score. All of it just kinda paints the same picture as EFAP has--these people are no longer producing quality content and are instead incentivized to sit in a chair and yap for a couple of hours because they're being rewarded for their laziness.
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It's been reuploaded (albeit unlisted) by the same guy who made that 3 hour video dunking on Southpaw that I linked earlier in the thread:
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Can I get the tl;dw?
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Wolf had a conversation with Southpaw about his antics on EFAP and elsewhere. Southpaw got really, really upset with Mauler and Fringy because they didn't appraise his favorite TV show (Terriers) correctly. He said some things publicly which Wolf says were akin to calling EFAP rape apologists. Wolf basically confronts him about what he has done and all Southpaw can do is talk about some details in the show that were misunderstood because EFAP doesn't know real world knowledge like he does.
TL;DW is basically this:
Wolf: "Why did you call me and my friends rape apologists?"
SP: "Well, if you skip to this timecode in episode five of Terriers, you can clearly see that..."
Wolf: "You do realize people don't appreciate being called rape apologists, right?"
SP: "..."
By the way. This is basically every interaction ever with Southpaw about media. It's like every piece of media is on trial and he's some kind of lawyer gathering evidence for a client about whether a movie makes sense practically. This is why he says he loves Terriers so much because, according to him, it's internal logic is just so freakin' consistent and practical.
Southpaw also has this uncanny ability to say he messed up and then immediately proceed into explaining why he was right the whole time. He also wrote this huge ream:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MauLer/comments/vu0v7k/missing/ifskzur/?context=3
Wherein he tries to blame his problems on misunderstandings and miscommunication, but as you continue to read he makes it out like he's a victim. Then, he ends the entire thing by calling someone "a liar, a narcissist, an animal abuser, and a groomer" and then proceeds to mention how he saved some woman from this person's abuse.
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This story is actually so retarded. Fuck me here we go..
So Southpaw was just a viewer of Efap who was brought on during their coverage of Mission Impossible Fallout, the whole stream he was supplying arguments for why the movie was good and eventually they brought him on and he did a really good job. We can assume from that point onward he and Mauler started chatting in the background. Eventually Southpaw became a semi-regular guest comming on a lot of the streams and doing a lot of the movie watch togethers with them (especially the DCEU)
Fast forward a bit and Southpaw is starting to get into a lick of trouble with the community. The problem with Southpaw is that he is a contrarian and he demands attention - He always picks fights with different communities. This workey when he was friends with Mauler cause the Efap crew would usually back him up. Probably best example of this was Southpaws coverage of the BTAS episode Heart of Ice, I think this one is considered the best one? So he went in and proclaimed it's terribly written etc. etc. Which I am pretty sure what started his hatred for the Fandom Menace cause at the time Nerdrotic said that Southpaw just doesen't get it cause he didn't grow up with the cartoon. On the stream Mauler offered some little pushback but if I remember right it ammounted to "Southpaw had good arguments in the past and might have good arguments now."
Fast forward a bit more we arrive to the part where Southpaw has a falling out with Efap. This is hilarious btw. Southpaw rewatched a show called Terriers, a mid show at best about a corrupt detective. For whatever reason he is very attached to this show, maybe ironically enough cause as Nerdrotic said "he grew up with it". He was recommending it all over to everyone and anyone saying it was the peak of story telling. There was a video and a stream in works and he really wanted to show it to Efap - Thus the infamous watch party that has been shared here multiple times. - Southpaw invited Mauler and Fringy to watch Terriers with him and recorded it. Spoiler alert - Mauler and Fringy fucking hated the show. And honestly they make some pretty sound arguments when working in the framework they and Southpaw use to judge movies. During the watch party you can hear Southpaw get progressively angrier and angrier that his surrogate internet 'fwiends' don't like his favourite show. It's funny cause originally he has a guy on who watched the show before with him who said it's great and then as Efap pointed out problems he flipped to their side. Anyways Southpaw kept getting angrier and angrier and during one plot point where a drunk woman sleeps with another man thus cheating on her boyfriend/fiancé/boyfriend (no clue I didn't watch the show really just the watch party) and when Efap raised eyebrows at that he apparently called them rape apologists. Southpaw later claims he didn't do that but from his conversation with Wolf we can see that's bull, he did basically call them that lol.
Anyways Efap hated it they left, poor Southpaw was left with realization his favourite show sucks. They went on multiple streams and brought up they hated Terriers when they were asked about it and that was seemingly it. This was apparently so bad that this bridge has been unofficially burnt. Southpaw stopped showing up on streams - What solidified that Southpaw was gone was Efap covering Arcane, which was a show he really loved and he wasn't invited on. This is where Southpaw's endless sniping on Twitter and fights with the Reddit start. As I said Southpaw is an attention whore, what's worse he is a terminally online sperg. Legit this dude works an incredibly shitty job at some dumb store and instead of trying to improve his life by trying to switch career or something like that he just sits on Twitter all day and bitches about the fact that Maulers subreddit is mean to him. Then whenever the subreddit stops talking about him and they move on suddenly Southpaw shows up and posts something to poke the hornets nest again before starting to whinge that "ahh I just want it to be over" and "well it's the people on the subreddit that made me reply! They keep attacking me!" cause this guy just can't fucking help himself and name search himself and get mad over Reddit nobodies that call him a poo poo head.
The rest of the story is on this thread. It was actually one of my first posts on this thread when I brought up the Southpaw drama with Efap where he leaked the watch aprty, leaked a call with Wolf and talked about the video that SK was making which hilariously ammounted to. "Maulers is a hypocrite because he associates with people I disagree with" - An argument so shitty he had to remove it from the video and is probably left with a bunch of life stream clips where Mauler either says things he disagrees with or mildly contradicts himself since this was before the whole Synth man fiasco. Btw. everyone told SK that argument was shit before the video came out and he didn't listen, he also apparently included responses from random Reddit users and Twitter users cause these guys just care so much lmao.
Anyways I've been rambling on for way too long the rest of the story is here and starts at page 347.