Opinion If Holocaust deniers don't go to hell, there is no God - Dennis Prager weighs in

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It is a central tenet of moral theology that there are gradations of sin. To argue that G od views stealing a towel from a hotel and raping a child as moral equivalents renders G od a moral fool. And doing that to G od is a sin.
If we mortals perceive the universe of difference between such actions, it goes without question that G od does, too. The idea that we have greater moral clarity than G od is logically and theologically untenable.

In the pantheon of evils, among the worst is Holocaust denial.

Given the murder of 6 million Jews and the unspeakable amount of suffering they and Jewish survivors underwent at the hands of the Nazis, it takes a particularly vile individual to say this never happened. Think of how we would regard anyone who denied thousands of Americans were murdered on 9/11.

Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, along with Gens. George Patton and Omar Bradley, visited Ohrdruf, a Nazi concentration camp, on April 12, 1945, a week after it was liberated.

Eisenhower then cabled to Gen. George Marshall:

"The things I saw beggar description... The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'"

A week later Eisenhower again cabled Marshall, asking that members of Congress and journalists be brought to the newly liberated camps so that they could tell Americans the truth about German Nazi atrocities.

Patton wrote in his diary:

"When we began to approach with our troops, the Germans thought it expedient to remove the evidence of their crime. Therefore, they had some of the slaves exhume the bodies and place them on a mammoth griddle composed of 60-centimeter railway tracks laid on brick foundations. They poured pitch on the bodies and then built a fire of pinewood and coal under them. They were not very successful in their operations because there was a pile of human bones, skulls, charred torsos on or under the griddle which must have accounted for many hundreds."

To his great credit, Eisenhower understood that what the Nazis had done to the Jews (and many others, but overwhelmingly to Jews) would be difficult for humanity to comprehend and therefore needed to be documented in writing and in photographs. And, it is important to note, Eisenhower saw only a small concentration camp, not one of the enormous death camps.

Beginning in about 1941, the Nazi regime dedicated itself to murdering every Jew — man, woman, child and baby — in countries it occupied. Eventually, more than six of every 10 Jews in Europe were murdered.

Nazi mobile killing units murdered more than a million Jews, usually family by family, in front of open ditches the Jews were forced to dig. Most died upon being shot; the even less fortunate ended up being buried alive. All witnessed the murder of their loved ones.

Most of the other murdered Jews were shipped in cattle cars to concentration and death camps where they were worked to death, starved to death, tortured to death and most often gassed to death in gas chambers.

There may not be a more documented single event in history than the Holocaust.

Yet, some people, including an American named Nick Fuentes, aggressively deny the Holocaust, asserting that a few hundred thousand Jews, not millions, were killed.

It is important to understand why this is evil.

First, it is a Big Lie. Big Lies inevitably lead to violence and can even destroy civilizations.

If the Holocaust never happened, why would Germany maintain that it did?

Second, Holocaust denial is not only a Big Lie; it is pure Jew-hatred, i.e., antisemitism. The proof that it emanates from antisemitism is that no other 20th-century genocide is denied (with the exception of the Turkish government's denial of the Turks' mass murder of Armenians during World War I). No one denies Stalin's mass murder of tens of millions of Soviet citizens in the Gulag Archipelago or his deliberate starvation of about five million Ukrainians (the Holodomor); or the Cambodian communists' murder of about one in every four Cambodians; or Mao's killing of about 60 million Chinese. The only genocide-denial is the genocide of the Jews.

Third, the denial of this Nazi evil is a slap in the face of all the Americans who died fighting the Nazis. As Eisenhower said on seeing the Nazi atrocities, "We are told that the American soldier does not know what he is fighting for. Now, at least, he will know what he is fighting against." If the Holocaust is a fabrication, Americans died fighting against nothing particularly evil.

As a college student, I dated a woman whose parents were Holocaust survivors. She told me on a number of occasions how often she would hear her father scream in the middle of the night as he dreamed about watching his family be murdered. Unable to live with these memories, one night, her father hanged himself.

That man is one of millions of reasons Fuentes — and those who ally themselves with him — will go to hell. If there is a just G od.
 
Only on this website would something as disgusting and worthless as holocaust denial be seen as edgy. Neck yourselves.
 
All 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust went to hell according to the Bible for denying Jesus as their savior lol
What about those who were believing Christians, like Saint Teresia Benedicta a Cruce, born as Edith Stein?
Not the smartest move to deny it, out loud, in certain jurisdictions, I have to agree...
Exactly. It's clearly a political dogma, whether it's based on historical fact or not.
 
I get that the Jewish understanding of sin is a bit different from that of Christianity. After all, to them the Messiah has not come, and in the current day the idea that the Messiah would pay the penalty for sin has long since fallen by the wayside. So, I understand Prager's position; in his theological structure, people are punished for their sins. I suppose we could categorize this one under "Thou shalt not bear false witness". I mean, they are in Christianity too, but the forgiveness structure is different. The Jewish understanding of how repentance and forgiveness works isn't quite the same. Any (unforgiven unrepented) sin will indeed damn one to Hell, but under Christianity if a person repented of Holocaust Denial or whatever, they're forgiven and absolved. Prager seems to be hinting that this sin is not absolvable?
 
Good luck, I live in a place I can shoot any stranger who shows up to my door and no one will blink an eye.
I've got a 20-inch black dick, Edomite. You'll just submit to me once you see it, with tears in your eyes. 20 of us anti-racists will make your puerile little racist jokes appear pretty sad, real soon.
 
I'm sick and tired of playing nice with a bunch of niggers who'll jerk themselves raw over being Frank Castle and hurl around fighting words without backing them up. It's a fucking LARP indulged in by people who'd probably cry if they ever got punched.
 
Only on this website would something as disgusting and worthless as holocaust denial be seen as edgy. Neck yourselves.

Why is it that one is able to deny everything from God to the fact that the Earth is round, yet people get all bent out of shape when they dare to suggest that the Holocaust didn't happen as exactly described?
 
Why is it that one is able to deny everything from God to the fact that the Earth is round, yet people get all bent out of shape when they dare to suggest that the Holocaust didn't happen as exactly described?
Get fucked. Genocide isn't a joke.
 
Get fucked. Genocide isn't a joke.
You're dodging the oven question. "Why is it that one is able to deny everything from God to the fact that the Earth is round, yet people get all bent out of shape when they dare to suggest that the Holocaust didn't happen as exactly described?"
 
You're dodging the oven question. "Why is it that one is able to deny everything from God to the fact that the Earth is round, yet people get all bent out of shape when they dare to suggest that the Holocaust didn't happen as exactly described?"
Once you get past the futile attempts at emotional manipulation and rhetoric, you see how much of a paper tiger they are. Why else do you think they use every tool available to control the narrative?

Remember they said there were six million people gassed and cremated, yet they can't produce one autopsy report proving any of it. Contrast this with Germany's own extensive and objective documentation of the Katyn massacres.
 
Once you get past the futile attempts at emotional manipulation and rhetoric, you see how much of a paper tiger they are. Why else do you think they use every tool available to control the narrative?

Remember they said there were six million people gassed and cremated, yet they can't produce one autopsy report proving any of it. Contrast this with Germany's own extensive and objective documentation of the Katyn massacres.
The funny thing is I wasn't in the thread when that person started whining (no idea how a 2016 reg date survived that long here--I would be 2014 if I didn't fuck up and lock myself out of my old account) nor said anything about the Holocaust being fabricated.

Just asking questions about why such a rule exists in the first place.
 
The funny thing is I wasn't in the thread when that person started whining (no idea how a 2016 reg date survived that long here--I would be 2014 if I didn't fuck up and lock myself out of my old account) nor said anything about the Holocaust being fabricated.

Just asking questions about why such a rule exists in the first place.
They constantly spout things like it's completely undeniable because it's so obvious and well documented, so it's taken for a fact. Then you start asking if it's so easy to prove, then let's see them do it. The story completely falls apart.

When you ask who ordered the holocaust, they say either the Nazis used code words or only oral orders with zero written ones. Despite the fact they would have zero reason to hide what they were doing among the top brass. The enigma machine encryption was broken at the beginning of the war, and they can produce zero documentation that is in support of the Holocaust narrative.
 
All 6 million Jews who died in the Holocaust went to hell according to the Bible for denying Jesus as their savior lol
Legit Kiwifarms question: Will Chris Chan go to heaven, he believes and loves Jesus. In fact he believes he is Jesus. I think Motherfuckers should burn in hell.

For the record I know there's Christians who don't believe being a Christian is a guaranteed ticket to Heaven. But I just find the core tenet that Jesus died for your sins so you're going to heaven no matter what to be insane.

If Jeffrey Dahmer is in heaven heaven sounds pretty shitty guys.
 
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