Opinion If Holocaust deniers don't go to hell, there is no God - Dennis Prager weighs in

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It is a central tenet of moral theology that there are gradations of sin. To argue that G od views stealing a towel from a hotel and raping a child as moral equivalents renders G od a moral fool. And doing that to G od is a sin.
If we mortals perceive the universe of difference between such actions, it goes without question that G od does, too. The idea that we have greater moral clarity than G od is logically and theologically untenable.

In the pantheon of evils, among the worst is Holocaust denial.

Given the murder of 6 million Jews and the unspeakable amount of suffering they and Jewish survivors underwent at the hands of the Nazis, it takes a particularly vile individual to say this never happened. Think of how we would regard anyone who denied thousands of Americans were murdered on 9/11.

Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, along with Gens. George Patton and Omar Bradley, visited Ohrdruf, a Nazi concentration camp, on April 12, 1945, a week after it was liberated.

Eisenhower then cabled to Gen. George Marshall:

"The things I saw beggar description... The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'"

A week later Eisenhower again cabled Marshall, asking that members of Congress and journalists be brought to the newly liberated camps so that they could tell Americans the truth about German Nazi atrocities.

Patton wrote in his diary:

"When we began to approach with our troops, the Germans thought it expedient to remove the evidence of their crime. Therefore, they had some of the slaves exhume the bodies and place them on a mammoth griddle composed of 60-centimeter railway tracks laid on brick foundations. They poured pitch on the bodies and then built a fire of pinewood and coal under them. They were not very successful in their operations because there was a pile of human bones, skulls, charred torsos on or under the griddle which must have accounted for many hundreds."

To his great credit, Eisenhower understood that what the Nazis had done to the Jews (and many others, but overwhelmingly to Jews) would be difficult for humanity to comprehend and therefore needed to be documented in writing and in photographs. And, it is important to note, Eisenhower saw only a small concentration camp, not one of the enormous death camps.

Beginning in about 1941, the Nazi regime dedicated itself to murdering every Jew — man, woman, child and baby — in countries it occupied. Eventually, more than six of every 10 Jews in Europe were murdered.

Nazi mobile killing units murdered more than a million Jews, usually family by family, in front of open ditches the Jews were forced to dig. Most died upon being shot; the even less fortunate ended up being buried alive. All witnessed the murder of their loved ones.

Most of the other murdered Jews were shipped in cattle cars to concentration and death camps where they were worked to death, starved to death, tortured to death and most often gassed to death in gas chambers.

There may not be a more documented single event in history than the Holocaust.

Yet, some people, including an American named Nick Fuentes, aggressively deny the Holocaust, asserting that a few hundred thousand Jews, not millions, were killed.

It is important to understand why this is evil.

First, it is a Big Lie. Big Lies inevitably lead to violence and can even destroy civilizations.

If the Holocaust never happened, why would Germany maintain that it did?

Second, Holocaust denial is not only a Big Lie; it is pure Jew-hatred, i.e., antisemitism. The proof that it emanates from antisemitism is that no other 20th-century genocide is denied (with the exception of the Turkish government's denial of the Turks' mass murder of Armenians during World War I). No one denies Stalin's mass murder of tens of millions of Soviet citizens in the Gulag Archipelago or his deliberate starvation of about five million Ukrainians (the Holodomor); or the Cambodian communists' murder of about one in every four Cambodians; or Mao's killing of about 60 million Chinese. The only genocide-denial is the genocide of the Jews.

Third, the denial of this Nazi evil is a slap in the face of all the Americans who died fighting the Nazis. As Eisenhower said on seeing the Nazi atrocities, "We are told that the American soldier does not know what he is fighting for. Now, at least, he will know what he is fighting against." If the Holocaust is a fabrication, Americans died fighting against nothing particularly evil.

As a college student, I dated a woman whose parents were Holocaust survivors. She told me on a number of occasions how often she would hear her father scream in the middle of the night as he dreamed about watching his family be murdered. Unable to live with these memories, one night, her father hanged himself.

That man is one of millions of reasons Fuentes — and those who ally themselves with him — will go to hell. If there is a just G od.
 
If you're Christian, No crucifixion of Christ=No sacrifice=You'd be damned forever
"The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that one by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that one not to have been born." Matthew 26:24
Yes it was prohesied and necessary in for the salvific economy but the carrying out of that act in and of itself was reprihensible.

Also, Romans were the ones who pulled the trigger and even tortured Christ prior to execution, yet I don't hear much hate for Italians despite that...
Matthew 27:25: "His blood be on us and on our children". This serves to condemn the Jewish nation for as long as they remain in their rebellion towards God, but note that it will make all the greater their reward were they to repent, based on the Parable of the Lost Sheep. As for Rome, it was called Babylon, and was the means through which thousands received the crown of martyrdom. But what was an instrument of evil, God made into an instrument of His own will, and it became the means by which Europe was christened.
 
Sounds like someone doesn't understand the concept of salvation coming from grace alone, rather than achieved through personal works.
It's a beautiful truth, that Jesus, God almighty, our Savior and Judge loved us enough to die for us, even when we were in sin and rebellion against him.
Works of the Law (keeping Kosher etc.) cannot save, faith in Jesus is essential, in his own words “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

But faith without works is dead. So it is in a sense achieved or at least preserved/demonstrated through personal works, at least it cannot be assumed to have nothing to do with bearing fruit. We remain in grace by keeping a living faith in co-operation with God's grace.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
 
Holocaust denialism is stupid and lolcowish, and if you're a member of the religious-ethnic group that was the primary target of it like Prager I can certainly understand the instinctive alarm bells going off whenever you see or hear of it.

But when you step back and try to remove yourself emotionally, and you realize that the people primarily pushing it now are complete and utter speds - a Mexican manlet incel running a dead gay streaming site and a manic rapper that wears fucking gimp masks to interviews - the panic and outrage start to seem a little overblown.
 
Before I respond, let me explain my Holocaust education. The first jew I met in real life was at the DC holocaust museum. I can think of one other I met in the years before I found myself at the NYC museum. The number that was important then was 11 million. 6 million jews and 5 million other various undesirables. In the years since that education, one number has been drastically adjusted down while the other is a sacred cow.

Like I said, that's a sacred cow and you better cool it with your antisemitism. What would your rabbi think? What further proof do I need that perhaps this is something jews are unified on than you appearing here kvetching over objective fact? I'm not the one supporting a figure that has demonstrably been a claim that predates WWII by ~70 years. Perhaps if you weren't so dogmatically defending a very specific number that every other aspect of demands adjustment, I would be more than happy to leave it at the infrastructure being there.

The problem as I am sure you full well know is that if the 6M is subjected to the same scrutiny as the 5M others, it would have an adjustment of similar magnitude. This would not only be proven by things like I've already posted. There would be outright fabricated accounts, directly contravened by multitudes of more reliable accounts. Hell, there was a "survivor" who turned out to be a delusional Australian that hadn't even been to Europe in his life. He was quoted in a published book! Yet the 6M must remain 6M.
Remember how stuff like holocoasters and the like were published and treated as Totally Legit Accounts that you would get in deep shit for questioning?

After that shit it boggles the mind how anyone believed a scrap of it.
 
Man, Kanye really buck broke everyone at the dailywire. First he made Ben Shapiro sneed, then made Jordan Peterstein lose his mind (even more) and invite essentially a racial supremacist dictator on his show, and now this fat old hack is seething. Cope harder, jews.
 
But when you step back and try to remove yourself emotionally, and you realize that the people primarily pushing it now are complete and utter speds - a Mexican manlet incel running a dead gay streaming site and a manic rapper that wears fucking gimp masks to interviews - the panic and outrage start to seem a little overblown.
When you plead to god that he make your enemies ridiculous but then ignore the obvious results.
 
But when you step back and try to remove yourself emotionally, and you realize that the people primarily pushing it now are complete and utter speds - a Mexican manlet incel running a dead gay streaming site and a manic rapper that wears fucking gimp masks to interviews - the panic and outrage start to seem a little overblown.
Just imagine how much more outrage and panic they'll do if Norman Filkenstein book "The Holocaust Industry" became popular again.
 
Remember how stuff like holocoasters and the like were published and treated as Totally Legit Accounts that you would get in deep shit for questioning?

After that shit it boggles the mind how anyone believed a scrap of it.
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Right you are friendo! Let's take a surface level dump of some less-esoteric claims/events:
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The holocoaster. If memory serves this was said Australian. I could be wrong. There's so many they blur after a while.
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Midwifery? In a death camp? 3,000+ times?!
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More claims
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Annoying format but more going with the narrative before the narrative "happened"
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Some peculiar geography.
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Think of this as a prelude. If you understand (((communism)) you may skip ahead. You'll know when to stop.
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Casual megalomania in a letter to (((Marx)))
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Ooh, this one mentions the "Frankfurt School" which was so dangerous wikipedia retconned it into Cultural Marxism before putting it in the forgetting place altogether.
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...and there it is. Our fine Israeli friends, a question: what would your nation do if it were infiltrated at the highest levels, while an international pariah? What would you do if those who ideologically oppose you attempted a coup? What if them doing so put you on the losing side of a world war? I guess these are moot as we already know how far you will go because of revenge, or what you may drive others to do to you someday. @Catch The Rainbow should we go down the road of state-sanctioned murder and establishing infrastructure to carry it out? Is it because they were guilty then or because your people are guilty now? Odds and ends from scrolling:
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(Please, take me up on the many variations of the Talmud)
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Yes it was prohesied and necessary in for the salvific economy but the carrying out of that act in and of itself was reprihensible.
But if it didn't, then the results would be far far worse, would they not? Like, damnation of all man level worse.
 
Holocaust deniers are fuckin' dumb.
Indeed, they're absolutely dumb af.
There is the law of multiple testament, even if it's not from the Jews themselves, the Nazis have confessed about the killings, and the western troops have witnessed the victims. Separate groups might have different recollections but tye common threads were "there were dead jews and enslaved jews".

But the thread here is to make people who even slightly question, or even really believe that the Holocaust didn't happen due to their stupidity, be marked and condemned as totally evil, and even taking the moral authority of God to claim that such a sin is one not deserving of heaven.

This is insidious. And exposed the absolute hypocrisy of them invoking the name of God on their behalf.
 
Holocaust denialism is stupid and lolcowish, and if you're a member of the religious-ethnic group that was the primary target of it like Prager I can certainly understand the instinctive alarm bells going off whenever you see or hear of it.
I can understand the panic when the principle narrative which grants them power - and a position of unquestionable moral superiority - is challenged.
But when you step back and try to remove yourself emotionally, and you realize that the people primarily pushing it now are complete and utter speds - a Mexican manlet incel running a dead gay streaming site and a manic rapper that wears fucking gimp masks to interviews - the panic and outrage start to seem a little overblown.
And these 'speds' scare them shitless. If noticers were just idiots spouting provable nonsense, no way would they work so hard - exposing themselves further - to shut 'em down. Cat's out of the bag, mate. Personally, I'm increasingly of the opinion that muh Holocaust is pure projection; it tells us less about what actually happened to them, and more about what they would like to do to us.

And, for the record, I don't regard myself as anti-semitic (unless it's for the lulz), I'm anti-satanic. Or, I'm trying real hard (Ringo) to hate the sin, not the sinner.

Could you try not being evil rat-fucks?
 
As always: if the holocaust is real, then the jews show how ungrateful and terrible they are for not singing the praises of white people.

If the holocaust was fake, it explains why they have nothing but contempt for white people.
 
I'm increasingly of the opinion that muh Holocaust is pure projection; it tells us less about what actually happened to them, and more about what they would like to do to us.
I want my epitaph to read "Schlomo Shecklestien has crafted a masterwork ☼goyim leather lampshade☼" in the game event log.
 
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