Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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if you havent already, you guys have to check out the f2 feature race it was great.
Pretty sure Logan Seargent is employing black magic because despite a DNF on the first lap every single driver in contention for p3 in the championship did not score aswell
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Things Better Forgotten said:
Hella big props to Nyck for scoring points in a car he didn't know he was going to be driving on Friday afternoon. If Williams don't really need the money like they say, there is zero excuse to keep Latifi around. He's finished.
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I still have my doubts as to whether de Vries will get a full time F1 drive next year due to his age, but I have far fewer doubts now than this time last week. He deserves to be in F1, and it's almost criminal that he's been cockblocked for so long. Especially when clowns like Latifi and Mazepin managed to get a drive.
 
Pee Cola said:
I still have my doubts as to whether de Vries will get a full time F1 drive next year due to his age, but I have far fewer doubts now than this time last week. He deserves to be in F1, and it's almost criminal that he's been cockblocked for so long. Especially when clowns like Latifi and Mazepin managed to get a drive.
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I hate to be too optimistic considering people were huffing the hype glue on Zhou after he finished in the points in the first race and he's blown the whole rest of the year, but 9th place in a car you didn't know you were going to be driving until Saturday morning is as strong of an audition as there could possibly be.

I feel bad for Logan though. If De Vries gets the seat next year he could end up permanently screwed out of it. Oh well, Uncle Chip/Uncle Roger will have an opening for him if he doesn't get a F1 ride.
 
There's some speculation in the F1 Technical forum that the new rules that were implemented didn't really hurt Red Bull (well, obviously, Max is just running away at this point) because their floor design was less classical than that of Ferrari's. Something something about vorticity of the RB floor made it less sensitive to ride height while Ferrari's were dependent on the interaction of the beam wing, diffuser, and sculpted side pods to energize the floor making them very sensitive to ride height changes?

If true, then it seems Ferrari might have to start from scratch next year as their car's entire design philosophy has been compromised.

Obviously we're all just being autistic speculators on the internet, but I liked the look of those side pods.
 
Though he did well, I do feel that De Vries got really lucky. Ocon, who should have been fighting for 7th/8th as he does on most weekends was nowhere to be seen. Perez didn't jump him at the start as I expected, and Ricciardo and Alonso both had failures, and if they'd made it to the end of the race De Vries wouldn't have been in the points.

Of all the drivers, Mick got fucked the hardest by the SC. On softs he was looking for an 8th - 9th place finish at least. I hope he can find at least 8 - 10 more points in the last few rounds of the season. That pass on Latifi everyone thought was a mistake was absolutely masterful, Takumi-tier stuff.
 
It's a tough race to judge a driver on. That Williams is a rocket in a straight line (because shot downforce = low drag) and has been all season and the other car being occupied by Lattifi gives a poor benchmark.

Vestappen can win it in Singapore but its much more likely he'll wrap it up in Japan which would be great for the Honda but not Honda engine.

The commentator cope at the end with "but it should be a red flag" got annoying. It's a broken down car being recovered, that's an SC. Sorry that course safety isn't decided case by case based on what you'd like to see.
 
Becky McDonald said:
Though he did well, I do feel that De Vries got really lucky. Ocon, who should have been fighting for 7th/8th as he does on most weekends was nowhere to be seen. Perez didn't jump him at the start as I expected, and Ricciardo and Alonso both had failures, and if they'd made it to the end of the race De Vries wouldn't have been in the points.
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First impressions count a lot, but everyone needs a full battery of tests. But it's as much a show as it is a sport - incentive to hype fresh blood and of course, there's FOMO that this guy could be the real deal.
 
Honestly, you know what the FIA should do at this point?

An F1 qualifier series.

Every year, the bottom 5 in the F1 WDC, and the top 5 in the F2 WDC (or whoever expresses an interest, like ex-FE/Indycar drivers) participate in a one-spec sprint race season that starts during the summer break, takes a hiatus, and finishes during December/January, during the lead-up to the next season. 5 - 6 races, 20 or so laps apiece, with one mandatory pitstop in the middle. Points are the same as F1. All teams are invited to scout new talents and assess their existing ones, regardless of who has a contract. The results will ultimately mean nothing, but it will show teams and fans alike who is the most deserving of a seat.
 
Becky McDonald said:
Honestly, you know what the FIA should do at this point?

An F1 qualifier series.

Every year, the bottom 5 in the F1 WDC, and the top 5 in the F2 WDC (or whoever expresses an interest, like ex-FE/Indycar drivers) participate in a one-spec sprint race season that starts during the summer break, takes a hiatus, and finishes during December/January, during the lead-up to the next season. 5 - 6 races, 20 or so laps apiece, with one mandatory pitstop in the middle. Points are the same as F1. All teams are invited to scout new talents and assess their existing ones, regardless of who has a contract. The results will ultimately mean nothing, but it will show teams and fans alike who is the most deserving of a seat.
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Reality of this would be that it would just steal more viewership from other junior formulae. There's been all sorts of crazy ideas like "Formulas with Football!" and "Formulas with national teams!" which all rarely lasted for long because they had little popular interest to them and return to investment for sponsors was laughable, especially by the time the 2008 finance crisis hit. If anything, motorsports still haven't recovered from sponsors being unwilling to fund racing after it. This would just end up diminishing the F2 part of the ladder because that is essentially meant to be the place where you go if you want to be an F1 driver and be compared to other dumb gimmick series like W series and Formula E in it's contrivance.
 
scallion said:
Psshhh, everyone knows you can only be an F1 driver if you're from an affluent family, your driving doesn't matter.
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Apparently, there's a racing driver that's an actual blue blood in Ferdinand Habsburg. Won at Le Mans LMP2 last year driving for WRT and his sister is a model (warning: Brittany Venti tier eye gap) who married an FE driver.
 
JoseRaulChupacabra said:
Apparently, there's a racing driver that's an actual blue blood in Ferdinand Habsburg. Won at Le Mans LMP2 last year driving for WRT and his sister is a model (warning: Brittany Venti tier eye gap) who married an FE driver.
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Ah yes, that would be Ferdinand Zvonimir Maria Balthus Keith Michael Otto Antal Bahnam Leonhard von Habsburg-Lothringen.
 
The Grognard said:
Reality of this would be that it would just steal more viewership from other junior formulae. There's been all sorts of crazy ideas like "Formulas with Football!" and "Formulas with national teams!" which all rarely lasted for long because they had little popular interest to them and return to investment for sponsors was laughable, especially by the time the 2008 finance crisis hit. If anything, motorsports still haven't recovered from sponsors being unwilling to fund racing after it.
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All the same tier drivers and backers went to formula but built around a washing machine, zoomer bait online voting and Mario cart. That's only still going because there is no shortage of shit tier drivers with delusions of grandeur and financial backers willing to throw money on a fire if it means environmental points.
 
Coccxys said:
All the same tier drivers and backers went to formula but built around a washing machine, zoomer bait online voting and Mario cart. That's only still going because there is no shortage of shit tier drivers with delusions of grandeur and financial backers willing to throw money on a fire if it means environmental points.
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There's also a lot of teams that have to dump their Stoffel Vandoornes somewhere.
 
If you want to watch racing from when men were men and racing cars weren't 1:1 scale Mario Karts, the Goodwood Revival is on this weekend. Bonus points for the mid-20th century cosplay by competitors and spectators alike.

 
JoseRaulChupacabra said:
Apparently, there's a racing driver that's an actual blue blood in Ferdinand Habsburg.
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Expected a full-on Habsburg inbreeding jaw, but he looks fairly normal - disappointing.

I know I'm kinda late to the Ricciardo discussion a few pages back, but what do we think of him trying for the triple crown?

He already has Monaco obviously and I'm sure he could get on a team with good chances to win for the 24hrs of Le Mans.

I don't know much about Indycar / The Indy 500, though from what i've heard Alonso was in the running to win it when he took part and there are plenty non-WDC ex-F1 drivers who won it so it seems doable as well.

Would be a nice way to finish his career on a high-note, even if he never got his F1 title.
 
Red Bull did not get their wish of getting Herta. American butthurt is off the charts. Graham Rahal is extremely MATI.

Yes, the super license points are dumb. Yes, they should be changed. The FIA is never going to change them, though. Still thought the collective American autistic screeching, especially coming from a nepotism driver who runs about 15th, is pretty funny.
 
A.P. Hill said:
Red Bull did not get their wish of getting Herta. American butthurt is off the charts. Graham Rahal is extremely MATI.

Yes, the super license points are dumb. Yes, they should be changed. The FIA is never going to change them, though. Still thought the collective American autistic screeching, especially coming from a nepotism driver who runs about 15th, is pretty funny.
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Dave Moody, who he's replying to, is extremely based. His NASCAR call-in show is a treat. Call-in shows are usually trash, but Dave not-very-gently tells people when they're being fucking retarded.

We live in the DTS era though, and F! is rising in the Us for all the wrong reasons so F1 can be as elitist as they want. I talked about F1 around my company founder the other night and he's like 'Oh I watched some of that show about it', ohhh boy.
 
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