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Re women who cheerlead on these degenerates, I mostly agree with what A tree says (it won't let me tag you, sorry). But I will add that there is another type of woman I have encountered and that is the one who genuinely enjoys the power it gives her to lord it over other women. Genuine Not Like Other Girls syndrome but too much of a chickenshit to hang out with the big boys and needs to make do with the trooncels. The terfs would call it internalized misogyny but you could drop that kind of person in a work environment and they'd be the office bully, or their biggest cheerleader if it helps them progress. Drop them back in school and they'd be the person clinging to the walls trying not to be seen or joining in on another kid being bullied because it means they aren't being bullied. The person who saw nothing and heard nothing but not because they aren't a snitch; because they want the popular kids to like them and they don't care who the popular kids are. If you were popular, they'd be up your ass too. They go where the attention is. Right now the quickest and easiest way to get attention if you've never done anything of note is to set up a social media account and make videos or tweet. If they had semi-successful careers they'd be the person who stabbed you in the back just to get the tiniest promotion or spread gossip to plant seeds of doubt about you. People could write theories or isms or phobias all day if it makes them feel better but some people - whether they are men or women - are just cunts and it is fine (and better for you in the long term) to avoid cunts.

I know women who still are in the 'good ones' stage and I talk to them like I would anyone else. They know how I feel and it hasn't changed our friendships. Perhaps I am too jaded but you can see where people are where you were and there is no point in pushing it nor being aggressive around their language. If they know you hate trannies then you will be the person they talk to as they slowly begin to feel their rage grow (and it always does). If they want to believe there are still good ones then I can't really criticize them because that was me for a long time. If they want to use stupid language from time to time then I won't use it and never have but I won't tell them what to do or say because at some point they are going to snap. My attitude is that trannies never want to interact with people on their terms or take people as they find them and control the narrative. I might not like how people talk but that's part of being an adult - people are going to say things you don't like and while you know they're on the road to snapping from the things they say, you can't push them. You've just got to let them find out for themselves.
 
Millenials are getting older, most of my contemporaries are moms now. Suddenly they've become really quiet about radical social change issues when they realize they have a family and what their kids are going to be exposed to. They've cool it a lot with the edgelord feminism takes too since most quit their jobs voluntarily once they married,
I would say they also don’t have time for it, but on the other hand, I’ve seen plenty of moms who either insist on being a ‘they/them’ and get mad at ‘breastfeeding’ or who troon out their kid.

There’s someone I know online who was a they/them SAHM and is now an FTM. I don’t see this going well. The identity loss caused by being an SAHM and the negative physical changes caused by pregnancy are going to lead to more of this. She’s also fat and always has been.

The husband is a they/them too.

Also, I judge FTMs so hard if they took their husband’s last name after they got married.
 
I would say they also don’t have time for it, but on the other hand, I’ve seen plenty of moms who either insist on being a ‘they/them’ and get mad at ‘breastfeeding’ or who troon out their kid.

There’s someone I know online who was a they/them SAHM and is now an FTM. I don’t see this going well. The identity loss caused by being an SAHM and the negative physical changes caused by pregnancy are going to lead to more of this. She’s also fat and always has been.

The husband is a they/them too.

Also, I judge FTMs so hard if they took their husband’s last name after they got married.
Interesting. I posted in the losing people thread the other day that I'm 99% positive one of my teenage friends turned feminist mums has trooned or at least gone nonbinary and it's caused an outbreak of anti terf sentiment from other friends who imagine that horrible Rowling wants to kill their nice friend.

Your theory could explain this. She was a rock n roll bad girl who became a breastfeeding coach and full time mum. She for sure lost her identity
 
TRAs doing their familiar daily ritual of "deliberately misinterpreting something a TERF says so they can wail and gnash their teeth about how oppressed they are":

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When she says "the fewer... the better" she is referring to "the number of people who transition." It is literally right there in the quote image. She thinks medical transition is useless and dangerous, so she wants to bring the number of procedures down.

If a doctor said that she wanted to reduce the number of adults taking metformin, would you interpret that as the doctor wanting to slaughter prediabetics?

This constant oppression LARP is so tiresome. And they wonder why even their "cis allies" ignore them these days.
 
Grown man has a long Twitter tantrum about why his friends will not sufficiently affirm him and ostracize the Harry Potter lady reeeeeeeeeeeee


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First off, why do these people talk like they’re giving a speech in a comic book movie? "If I must die, I would prefer to be stabbed in my chest, facing my enemy, that I may spit in his face as I expire." You’re on Twitter whining about the bad wizard lady, my friend. No one is trying to murder you.

Second, this man does not seem to grasp what is actually happening around him. His friends and colleagues are not being "hypocritical" when they respect his pronouns but then do not shun the Harry Potter franchise or praise Lia Thomas. Rather, the disconnect between their words and their actions comes from the fact that they are just being nice to him. His loved ones probably don’t have strong feelings about trans issues either way, and most of them probably think that a lot of TRA stuff is bullshit, but they still use his stupid pronouns and nod and smile because they’re being nice (and they don’t want him to have a tantrum or try to cancel them).

TRAs spent years setting up an environment in which people are obliged to agree with pro-trans slogans in order to not lose their jobs, and then they have a fit when people act in ways that do not match their verbal support? For someone who works in a psychology department he sure doesn't know shit about how humans interact.

What he doesn’t realize is that when he has this kind of tantrum, it's not going to spur his cis allies into changing what they actually believe. They are just going to stop the fake support and start ignoring him altogether. The low engagement on his tweet storm should be a clue, but it won’t be.

And I've left out the best part, which is that this dude isn't even transitioning. He's just some random guy in a heterosexual relationship who has decided to use they/them pronouns:

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If you want to amuse yourself, his whole twitter is full of similar speeches about how difficult and life-threatening it is to be a heterosexual man who uses awkward plural third-person pronouns:

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Letter from a Birmingham Twitter Feed. Seriously this "white moderates" speech that troons do is so fucking tedious. So much of Troon Twitter argumentation is just bad larping of other social movements they vagely recall.

I fucking hate when trannies say "well Lia Thomas loses to cis women sometimes, it means ShE doesn't have an unfair advantage".
Just because some women win against you, it doesn't mean you don't have an unfair advantage over them. I swim faster than my dad, but biologically he has an advantage over me. He's just a fucking awful swimmer.
When "Lia" loses it just means that even with his advantage he isn't better than the best women. It's still not okay for you to go against women when you are not one. In the 500 yards went from being 65th to being 1st, the difference between his male time and his female times are around 6%, which is far less than the average difference between women and men (around 10% at competitive levels).
I've already quoted this article before but it has really solid data to illustrate my point: No Denying the Advantages of Lia Thomas

I'm sorry for sperging but this argument is infuriating.
Plus Lia was obviously pacing himself, and I'm fairly sure threw a couple of races. But I do like the logic that we should assume trans women have no advantages because unremarkable midtier male athletes only rise to almost beating all their competition as women. As long as only shitty male athletes decide to transition, then the unfairness will be mitigated, and women will only have to compete with someone who achieves a small amount better than their best possible times! Problem solved!
 
100% its the kids. Imagine it being your own kid asking for hormones or the chop? Hits different dont it? I had to peak my kid becuse he's an autistic little chap just approaching his teens. Sometimes he reminds me so much of Chris I feel like I have to protect him from the internet.

I don't want his natural tolerance of others difference to let him slide into the arms of some groomer. He's clever enough to understand that his friend who acts camp and sometimes likes to wear a dress or be called a girly name is probably going to be gay and that's cool and fine but that we can't just throw safeguarding to the wind and we cant change our physical sex. Accepting that little boy how he is does not mean automatically accepting the sad and slightly frightening autogynephiles you might occasionally meet skulking around a local pub or whatever as being literal women. I spelled it out to him. He gets it. Forewarned is forearmed.
Exactly, and the formerly edgy types know pretty damn well the kind of weirdos who they should protect their kids from because they hung out with them.

I would say they also don’t have time for it, but on the other hand, I’ve seen plenty of moms who either insist on being a ‘they/them’ and get mad at ‘breastfeeding’ or who troon out their kid.

There’s someone I know online who was a they/them SAHM and is now an FTM. I don’t see this going well. The identity loss caused by being an SAHM and the negative physical changes caused by pregnancy are going to lead to more of this. She’s also fat and always has been.

The husband is a they/them too.

Also, I judge FTMs so hard if they took their husband’s last name after they got married.
Personally not living in the cultural epicenter of it influences my view on the subject. Are there really so many parents like that they constitute a major block of the kids on school? or they are the usual shit parents? Its sad for those kids but i hope it stays as a minority of really shit parents that would be disfunctional either way. I think most people even if they aren't the most prepared parents will at least try to go back to the same lessons they were taught by their own parents when they were kids, like they finally realized why those endured, instead of trying to raise hippie kids or woke kids or whatever.
 
Interesting. I posted in the losing people thread the other day that I'm 99% positive one of my teenage friends turned feminist mums has trooned or at least gone nonbinary and it's caused an outbreak of anti terf sentiment from other friends who imagine that horrible Rowling wants to kill their nice friend.

Your theory could explain this. She was a rock n roll bad girl who became a breastfeeding coach and full time mum. She for sure lost her identity
Sounds like someone who feels bad she grew up to be a normie.
 
If handmaidens are playing a game of 5d sherlock mind palace chess, is throwing other women under the bus and taking part in pile-ons part of the strategy or
I want to (sort of vaguely) address this and the overall discussion about women interacting with TIMs by saying that some of the women posting about their experiences with female interactions are really breaking things down based on their ability to critically examine themselves and others after the fact. Which is an overly complicated way of saying that women in groups don't intentionally do 4d chess mind games, they just instincually react and don't really think too much about it. The examination of why it happens the way it does comes long after the fact.
 
TRAs doing their familiar daily ritual of "deliberately misinterpreting something a TERF says so they can wail and gnash their teeth about how oppressed they are":

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When she says "the fewer... the better" she is referring to "the number of people who transition." It is literally right there in the quote image. She thinks medical transition is useless and dangerous, so she wants to bring the number of procedures down.

If a doctor said that she wanted to reduce the number of adults taking metformin, would you interpret that as the doctor wanting to slaughter prediabetics?

This constant oppression LARP is so tiresome. And they wonder why even their "cis allies" ignore them these days.
I had some fag post this to me as well the other day on Twitter. They then proceeded to highlight the red parts and compared it with the literal definition of genocide. Naturally someone whose family had been affected by the Holocaust got involved and was (understandably) very offended. I hate it when people:
1) claim that lopping off your breasts or penis for gender reassignment surgery is "life saving".
2) compare a bunch of shitty stunted adults crying about being "erased" to an actual genocide.

This person then had the nerve to tell that jew to go fuck right off. lmao.
I hate Twitter.
 
I bet your ass this woman doesn't have the balls (literally) to show this which she made to her parents, if you want to brag about your success then don't be a pussy and show it to the people who alleggedly made you do it, otherwise you are just talking shit behind their backs with a relatively anonymous account to feel brave and "empowered".
She probably gets all her validation from strangers she mistakes as people that care and support her, but we all know that shallow support is only superficial, something to have a good public image on the net and get followers who'll orbit around you for how new age you are. I hope this woman doesn't change her mind from here to 4 or 5 decades later, when all the youth epiphany that pushed her to do this banishes and aging and mid age crisis starts to show up, Nevermind the apparently negative family relations this post shows.

TLDR: God i hate troons, top hats accepted.
 
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Even in her own comic she stilll just looks like a woman who mutilted herself. You'd think they'd try a bit harder to be men. Not that it's really that surprising, tons of TIFs seem to harbor a poorly conceled fetish for corrective rape or "refeminization". There's plenty of examples of them letting their true colors show in places like tumblr.

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Of course she's also a tumblrina, where else this kind of person would've originated from :(
Closing down mental ayslums was a mistake.
 
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I'm honestly curious if this guy somehow actually believes what he typed here. As medical kiwis (or any osteo/forensic kiwis) can confirm, this is 100% a male pelvis and could have come straight out of a textbook.

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Why do they think hormones are magic? The only thing cross-sex hormones can do to your bones is make them brittle, it's not magical wizard juice.
 
I've just gotten used to putting up a face when I deal with them and just laughing at them in private later, at least online, I haven't really seen any here in God's chosen desert.
I've interacted with a handful of relatively chill ones but the majority is like you said, weird caricatures of what they think women are. I've had so many janny trannies get mad at me for the dumbest shit, like referring to someone I didn't know with they/them pronouns because its "a sly way to avoid calling a trans woman a she" or some shit. like nigga I just met you I went with they/them because its neutral.

Does that mean we can stop with the they/them nonsense? Troons write like shit and there's usually not enough context to know if they are talking about a group, an individual or a company. They always assume you know whatever bullshit they randomly speak about.

This reminds me, is anyone else bothered by being addressed as they/them? Like, normally it wouldn't bother me much, but coming from troons and their woke drones it feels almost sinister. If nothing else it's like a marker of being pozzed by the ideology and a reminder of its reach, specially when the person knows I'm a dude and I never asked for any of that shit. People are so fucking scared of misgendering an obvious man and it's somehow not very funny. Not to mention all that bullshit about being accurate with pronouns or else you are the Ultimate Genocider, all to just call everyone "they". I think kids today call that "cringe".

Why do they think hormones are magic? The only thing cross-sex hormones can do to your bones is make them brittle, it's not magical wizard juice.
I mentioned this a few times and I find it fascinating. They act like if hormones were movie mutagen that turns you into something else magically, and like if hormones were a drug. I've seen hardcore stoners be more subtle about their giant bong than troons about their estrogen. (No idea about gaydens and testosterone but I assume the same).
 
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