not real, but you see real fucking people in porn. It fries the brain diffirently, ESPECIALLY seeing that shit promoted as actual career option to vulnerable girls.
Why the fuck has porn become this casual? What’s the equivalent for men? Professional gaming? At least being a video game streamer doesn’t seem to have a stigma attached to it, or does it?
There doesn't need to be an equivalent for men. Porn is consumed by almost only men, most people involved in the production of big network porn are men. Same goes for distribution and marketing.
Instagram and onlyfans are platforms owned by men and mostly operated by men.
Yeah the majority of people on camera are women but that is about it.
The more appropriate question would be asking wether an equivalent for women exists and there is plenty:
Romance novels (sometimes also romance movies), tumblr fanfiction, yaoi, boybands
Thinking about being an old fart surrounded by a bunch of shit that someone will have to throw away when I'm dead helps too. This isn't to shame anyone who does like stuff, stuff is great. I get tempted by things often, but I just hold on to it in store, do a lap and reconsider usually. And I really do like the idea of the KonMari method, brought up often, but most of the things I've hung on to still bring joy to my life, so it is a good method. I'd say don't mindlessly consume, think about it. Or just go to Kevin Gibe's thread, that really puts it into perspective.
I'll be perfectly honest in saying this thread has got me to start to think about my room. I'm talking to @NoReturn about that. I'm sorry I've all bothered you all here and been a pain, but this thread has genuinely made me question myself and whether I am hoarding or a consoomer. Threads like this do bring out insecurities because as the thread has shown many people have huge varieties on what is consooming and what isn't. I am a perfect example. I guess my problem is I was trying to find a clear definition of what a consoomer is when there are so many variables that come into play that people may or may not agree with.
A lot of my stuff has sentimental value and I've always thought a nice display or room, mixed with personal items and more personal touches would be nice. Now I'm not so sure. If anyone wants to give me advice, which I would really appreciate, I'm open to a private conversation.
I do want to change for the better and make sure I don't become one of these people.
I guess its hard because you have some people saying a room full of star wars is bad but then others saying no. That model trains or planes
(Which I thought were made and targeted for children?) is ok but keeping a room of toys is not being grown up.
Why the fuck has porn become this casual? What’s the equivalent for men? Professional gaming? At least being a video game streamer doesn’t seem to have a stigma attached to it, or does it?
Gaming autist here.
Professional gaming was always going to happen.
The thing is at the end of the day football, hockey, so forth are games at their very heart.
Motorsport started the moment the 2nd car was produced.
People have always wanted to see who was the best at something.
Pro gaming isn't going away, neither is streaming.
I'm open to pro gaming because I do a few semi-serious online championships in my spare time but I can understand people's concern.
I think pro gaming organisations need to implement regulations, requiring participants to be in a full time/part time job or if they are young, in education. Pro gaming teams also need to organise social events or something to make sure the people who do this have something outside of just playing vidya.
That said, some pro gamers do this on their own and I think its too much of an exaggeration to say that all pro gamers are NEETs
Brenden Leigh won the inaugural F1 eSports series, and I read on the F1 site he worked in Reading.
He came back a year later and looked more fitter too. As if he was on a diet or went to the gym a bit.
So I think its a stretch to think everyone who plays games professionally just play vidya.
I think the problems with it will come up more and more over time and the discussion will come up eventually. Its still a new thing and will need some adjusting.
Streaming depends on the individual. Most sim racing streamers to me seem well adjusted, and while they do spend a few hours a day streaming, they have other stuff outside that. Of course you have special events like on iRacing where people do real life events but in the sim which require planning ahead of time.
For example the 24 hours of Daytona is coming up. Its a team race so you aren't driving for 24 hours straight. You need to plan what times you can race or not, so i cant race at X time because real life stuff but i can race at Y because i have nothing on then.
The same goes for online championships (league racing) too. I select the league which fits my schedule. Many people in my leagues state they can't make the race because they have other commitments.
Sheesh. I'd like to go to disneyland some day or some other things I never did as a kid but to sacrifice that much?!
You know, I would call myself somewhat a disneyfag, but these people are insane.
I guess one thing I dislike about consoomer's, is that they feed Disney's descent.
There was once a time where consoomer's were correct.
Disney used to make genuinely good stuff.
Say what you will about Walt, but I can respect the man for having a genuine love for his craft.
Bambi IMO is a work of art. For something with very little dialogue to be that powerful is insane.
I've noticed as I've grown up I used to dislike the last part. Now I dislike the first part and really like when Bambi becomes an adult.
I've still got the 2 disc DVD and it has many special features (sadly missing with todays DVDs).
The art and backgrounds are stunning. They have a feature where you can listen to old discussions on making the film as the movie goes along.
You see footage of the movies release in 1942 and you have a majority of grown men and women watching. Just them. No kids.
I think this is why I disagree with the "watching at X age" stuff.
Disney/Starwars/Star trek whatever is a general audience to me.
Times change, people change, audiences change.
Even if made for kids, you can still enjoy it.
What's important is to follow Christopher Lees example.
When watching things, go ahead and enjoy, but there is a time and a place.
That said nothing disney or pixar pumps out interests me nowadays. Unless its an instalment for one of my favourite disney movies Lion King/Bambi/Cars I'm not gonna be interested. Even if its an instalment, I'll check one episode or the trailer and decide. The Lion Guard was an example. Watched the first episode, decided it wasn't for me, checked a few clips here and there to stay up to date and then when S3 came around I got interested enough to actually watch it, because it wasn't filler and contributed to the lore.
Consoom specific IKEA chair, coomers!
That's right. We've reached the phase of marketing where a selling point for furniture is the boost it will give to your OnlyFans account.
I have yet to meet any chair at Ikea that is even remotely comfortable. Most of their chairs lack any kind of cushioning. They don't appear to care about ergonomics much either, as most of their chairs (cushioned or not) lack lumbar support, are weirdly too short or too tall, have bizarre arm rest placement/height (if they're included at all), rarely have contours a human-like body might comfortably fit in and often don't even fit properly under most of the tables they sell (either the chair or table legs get in the way, the arm rests are slightly too high, the table surface is too high, etc.). Even most of their sofas are god-awful -- almost universally way too low to the ground and hard-as-rocks cushions.
And I don't think it's just me; most of the time when I see someone else sit in some random chair at Ikea to try it out, they make a scrunchy face and go "ooooo, that's awful."
It doesn't help that their chairs and sofas are butt-ugly, either.
lol are they finally realizing Star Wars has always been about "fuck you bring money," especially after Disney bought it?
I also adore their paranoid conspiracy theory-sounding insinuations that twitter is quietly ignoring/hiding/downplaying likes and retweets because twitter is secretly homophobic, sexist and racist. For one thing, lolwut? For another, even if they were Evil(tm), why would they bother with this? Finally, what happened to "well it's their platform, they can do what they want with it" and "if you don't like it, go make your own"?
Ok so I guess I want to explain what is exactly making me insecure when going through this thread. I have one tiny room to myself, I'm still with my relatives but I'm focusing on moving out within the next few years.
I mentioned having my old toys like pixar cars stuff.
That isn't all I have.
Two cube organizers of a mixture of pixar cars toys, star wars, Thunderbirds, matchbox. (about this size)
A couple of airfixes, an old scaletrix with 90s era DTM cars given to me by my dad, and one scaletrix with the 2009 Brawn GP and Mclaren
3. Tracy island from like 15 years back. I had two (don't ask why I don't know) but got rid of the unboxed one. I can imagine displaying this somewhere with the thunderbirds toys as Thunderbirds seems like model trains, its something your grandad would love.
4. A collection of books on motorsport, pokemon, doctor who, a Richard Hammond autobiography and top gear magazines. These fill the small gap between my bed and closet.
5. Work books from my old schools, I'd say these are personal items on my personal history.
6. Teddys like beanies to a few I got from elderly neighbours. One I think I've had my entire life. These are in front of my books.
I guess I'm asking how to keep this stuff without it looking weird or a consoomer shrine when I get my own place.
I was thinking about how people who collect die casts have glass display cases or something to put them in, I think I'll do that with my matchbox/cars/ect.
This is out of genuine enjoyment and of genuine sentimental value. I've gone through my stuff on what I want to give to others.
I may think about giving away more.
I won't derail the thread any more so any messages, please do so in private conversations. I've messed up the thread already, I don't want to do it any more.
Ok so I guess I want to explain what is exactly making me insecure when going through this thread. I have one tiny room to myself, I'm still with my relatives but I'm focusing on moving out within the next few years.
I mentioned having my old toys like pixar cars stuff.
That isn't all I have.
Two cube organizers of a mixture of pixar cars toys, star wars, Thunderbirds, matchbox. (about this size)View attachment 2867777
A couple of airfixes, an old scaletrix with 90s era DTM cars given to me by my dad, and one scaletrix with the 2009 Brawn GP and Mclaren
View attachment 2867754View attachment 2867762
3. Tracy island from like 15 years back. I had two (don't ask why I don't know) but got rid of the unboxed one. I can imagine displaying this somewhere with the thunderbirds toys as Thunderbirds seems like model trains, its something your grandad would love.View attachment 2867697
4. A collection of books on motorsport, pokemon, doctor who, a Richard Hammond autobiography and top gear magazines. These fill the small gap between my bed and closet.
5. Work books from my old schools, I'd say these are personal items on my personal history.
6. Teddys like beanies to a few I got from elderly neighbours. One I think I've had my entire life. These are in front of my books.
I guess I'm asking how to keep this stuff without it looking weird or a consoomer shrine when I get my own place.
I was thinking about how people who collect die casts have glass display cases or something to put them in, I think I'll do that with my matchbox/cars/ect.
This is out of genuine enjoyment and of genuine sentimental value. I've gone through my stuff on what I want to give to others.
I may think about giving away more.
I won't derail the thread any more so any messages, please do so in private conversations. I've messed up the thread already, I don't want to do it any more.
There is more nobility in the 50yo weird uncle train autist than there is in any compulsive collector. View attachment 2845691
Look at him in his attic —away from the concerned eyes of family— he has found personal value in his autistic pursuit. He builds his little model not to seek prestige in a tiny subculture, but rather for his own personal satisfaction. The value of his model is created not purchased, and it relies upon no external validation.
I think, for a lot of these, you really have to see the rest of the room. If it's a semi-normal house with one startlingly large display case full of toys, that's one thing. If it's a house that is either A) totally full of toys or B) half full of toys and otherwise totally lacking personal touches, that's something else.
This is what my stance is with consooming.
If the room's got a blend of stuff and isn't all filled to the brim with one product its fine.
So a blend of star wars with personal touches or pictures is fine IMO.
Ok, that's all.
Never saw this thread before but I've seen this shit in the mechanical keyboard community. People will buy dozens of $300 keyboards just to hang them on their walls. Bro I like them too but you don't need to buy every piece of plastic ever presold on Massdrop.
Honestly onlyfans girls are just whores plain and simple, but I bet a lot of them are pretty promiscuous with their spending. Save up your money whores, whoring is like a sports career; you get forced into retirement at 40 and your body is fucked and spent afterwards —you're gonna need a pretty nest egg. It is pretty telling though that we're at the point where there's enough of them to constitute a demographic worth marketing to
Why the fuck has porn become this casual? What’s the equivalent for men? Professional gaming? At least being a video game streamer doesn’t seem to have a stigma attached to it, or does it?
On the topic of normalization, how many years are we from the Razer Chroma Gaming Catheter? TIRED OF SOILING YOUR $1k GAMING CHAIR? PEE IN RGB!
It'll happen, believe it.
That doesn't matter, what matters is that it's transparent so people can watch while you shove bottles up your ass for below minimum wage
In our modern neoliberal utopia you get to choose your hours and the shape of the bottles WOOOO EMPOWERMENT!
Now hey I didn't say it was dignified —you can tell how the family feels about it 'cause the picture was taken in the fucking attic — but what elevates it in my opinion is the factor of synthesis. The guy in the example image I posted actually made that model; sure, he probably bought the trains premade, but he definately planned and constructed the environment. There's a world of difference between passive consumption and actually creating something, even if that something is a cringy or autistic. Morbid, but that picture was from his obituary. Now don't read me wrong I wasn't looking for obituaries, but that just happened to be the first and best example on duckduckgo for "train autist" Praying for my nigga, hope he made it to the great train station in the sky o7
Really though, is any of this gay shit for adults? Don't fucking tell me you think your "pixar cars" or star wars are adult appropriate home decor! UH ACHKTUALLY MY BABY BOTTLE IS FOR BIG BOYS 'CAUSE IT HAS POD RACERS ON THE SIDE! lmao nigga get a hold of yourself!
One interesting thing about this thread is just how many people have differing views on what is consooming.
I think honestly the consoomer stuff is always going to be subjective given
1. Some people have differing views on certain things. Owning toys is enough for people to cringe at it. While you have others who collect toys here who have no problem with it.
2. Some people may look at one thing as just decorating a room with an interest while someone else will look at it as a shrine
3. We all have various opinions on "too much". Whether it be a room or a display cabinet.
4. Personal interests are going to come into it. A car fan will like the die cast collection and cringe at something else. I don't bat an eye towards star wars stuff but a my little pony room is nightmare fuel.
I think no matter what you do, there will be someone calling you a consoomer/manchild somewhere. The only way to not be a consoomer to someone is having nothing, and plain white walls. That's incredibly miserable.
I think my opinion of consoomers is more liberal than most here. I personally don't think its my problem when it comes to what people like to buy. Buying a shirt you like the look of, regardless of if it has a brand on it is harmless. Owning a cap or shirt of your favorite team is harmless. Some may find a grown man in his teams kit silly, but I don't.
Consooming to me is less about what people buy, rather can they afford it, can they fit it and whether or not it becomes their entire identity.
A regular star wars fan may buy some merch they think looks cool, Their room may be a mix of star wars stuff and personal items. They engage in the community and talk about it. They joke and quote the movies every now and then. They discuss the ideas and themes. They also have interests outside of star wars.
A consoomer only has star wars, They have no interests, nothing else but star wars. Everything they say is about star wars. "Trump is Vader". Any movie or product that comes out they get overly emotional over. Their entire being is consooming. Their entire house is star wars.
I think I have a good IRL example. Someone at my college is obsessed with smash bros, sonic, rayman and mario. Its all they talk about, they brag about winning smash bro games against other students singing how he's "the king of super smash bros". He wants to be a pro gamer.
Myself? Well I enjoy this stuff, I do some somewhat competitive gaming, but its not all I have. I have other interests and hobbies. I don't spend all my time playing vidya. The odd hour practicing maybe. If its an iRacing special event, yes i spend a ton of hours doing that, but its a one off.
Its something which concerns me, even as someone who plays somewhat "competitively". I'm fine with pro gaming, its rather the issue of having nothing else which concerns me. But that is for another time.
That is what really is the heart of what is consooming. When buying becomes an obsession, when the product is all you have.
Gaming autist here.
Professional gaming was always going to happen.
The thing is at the end of the day football, hockey, so forth are games at their very heart.
Motorsport started the moment the 2nd car was produced.
People have always wanted to see who was the best at something.
Pro gaming isn't going away, neither is streaming.
I'm open to pro gaming because I do a few semi-serious online championships in my spare time but I can understand people's concern.
I think pro gaming organisations need to implement regulations, requiring participants to be in a full time/part time job or if they are young, in education. Pro gaming teams also need to organise social events or something to make sure the people who do this have something outside of just playing vidya.
That said, some pro gamers do this on their own and I think its too much of an exaggeration to say that all pro gamers are NEETs
Brenden Leigh won the inaugural F1 eSports series, and I read on the F1 site he worked in Reading.
He came back a year later and looked more fitter too. As if he was on a diet or went to the gym a bit.
So I think its a stretch to think everyone who plays games professionally just play vidya.
I think the problems with it will come up more and more over time and the discussion will come up eventually. Its still a new thing and will need some adjusting.
Streaming depends on the individual. Most sim racing streamers to me seem well adjusted, and while they do spend a few hours a day streaming, they have other stuff outside that. Of course you have special events like on iRacing where people do real life events but in the sim which require planning ahead of time.
For example the 24 hours of Daytona is coming up. Its a team race so you aren't driving for 24 hours straight. You need to plan what times you can race or not, so i cant race at X time because real life stuff but i can race at Y because i have nothing on then.
The same goes for online championships (league racing) too. I select the league which fits my schedule. Many people in my leagues state they can't make the race because they have other commitments.
This is one of your better contributions to the thread. It's distracting when you bring up your own room when we're talking about Disney and porn, but your game section here was actually insightful.
The idea of gamers getting fit is actually pretty cool to me, because it makes sense. If you aren't an overweight, out of shape NEET then you're going to ironically do better at vidya because your reflexes will be faster and you won't have as much poo-brain.
What the fuck.
This mentality is why I made the "How can you make your normal life better?" thread. I get why her family would intervene. It's like she's living only for the sake of 1/12th of her life and sacricing her health at the alter of the mouse.
There was once a time where consoomer's were correct.
Disney used to make genuinely good stuff.
Say what you will about Walt, but I can respect the man for having a genuine love for his craft.
I read an interesting book on the topic a while back that was published a few decades back. I think it was Demystifying Disney by Chris Pallant but the book I borrowed had a black cover. Either way, it had some very interesting insights into the history of the company, their financial struggles at different points in time, and how those affected the movies they produced.
I have yet to meet any chair at Ikea that is even remotely comfortable. Most of their chairs lack any kind of cushioning. They don't appear to care about ergonomics much either, as most of their chairs (cushioned or not) lack lumbar support, are weirdly too short or too tall, have bizarre arm rest placement/height (if they're included at all), rarely have contours a human-like body might comfortably fit in and often don't even fit properly under most of the tables they sell (either the chair or table legs get in the way, the arm rests are slightly too high, the table surface is too high, etc.). Even most of their sofas are god-awful -- almost universally way too low to the ground and hard-as-rocks cushions.
I also adore their paranoid conspiracy theory-sounding insinuations that twitter is quietly ignoring/hiding/downplaying likes and retweets because twitter is secretly homophobic, sexist and racist. For one thing, lolwut? For another, even if they were Evil(tm), why would they bother with this? Finally, what happened to "well it's their platform, they can do what they want with it" and "if you don't like it, go make your own"?
Believe it or not, taking to @PrimoVitorio made me realize something recently: Namely that this new generation of people online are coming from a completely different cultural background than the rest of us.
Internet culture 1 -
"People are reacting negatively to me! Guess what I said wasn't insightful or funny enough."
"My post got deleted! What rule did I break? None? Well fuck you too, Janny."
Internet culture 2 -
"People are reacing negatively to me! What a much of racist/sexist/queerphobic assholes!"
"There are no Jannies. There is only faceless corporation who never interacts with me directly. They only send automated messages. This corporation is basically a god."
Just make shit up about working for X startup that went bust, theres a million of those out there and most records are gone.
Meanwhile that video of you shoving a dildo up your ass will be there for decades to come. Nowdays even people who did porn in the 70's and 80's are finding themselves exposed online because some old coomer uploaded his vhs collection.
Ok so I guess I want to explain what is exactly making me insecure when going through this thread. I have one tiny room to myself, I'm still with my relatives but I'm focusing on moving out within the next few years.
I mentioned having my old toys like pixar cars stuff.
That isn't all I have.
Two cube organizers of a mixture of pixar cars toys, star wars, Thunderbirds, matchbox. (about this size)View attachment 2867777
A couple of airfixes, an old scaletrix with 90s era DTM cars given to me by my dad, and one scaletrix with the 2009 Brawn GP and Mclaren
View attachment 2867754View attachment 2867762
3. Tracy island from like 15 years back. I had two (don't ask why I don't know) but got rid of the unboxed one. I can imagine displaying this somewhere with the thunderbirds toys as Thunderbirds seems like model trains, its something your grandad would love.View attachment 2867697
4. A collection of books on motorsport, pokemon, doctor who, a Richard Hammond autobiography and top gear magazines. These fill the small gap between my bed and closet.
5. Work books from my old schools, I'd say these are personal items on my personal history.
6. Teddys like beanies to a few I got from elderly neighbours. One I think I've had my entire life. These are in front of my books.
I guess I'm asking how to keep this stuff without it looking weird or a consoomer shrine when I get my own place.
I was thinking about how people who collect die casts have glass display cases or something to put them in, I think I'll do that with my matchbox/cars/ect.
This is out of genuine enjoyment and of genuine sentimental value. I've gone through my stuff on what I want to give to others.
I may think about giving away more.
I won't derail the thread any more so any messages, please do so in private conversations. I've messed up the thread already, I don't want to do it any more.
None of that shit counts, specially since most seem to be gifts so its more about the sentimental value because of the people who gifted it to you than whatever autism you might have towards a brand or franchise.
Game AI peaked in the mid 2000s with stuff like FEAR, its been going downhill since then and games now have terrible AI because zoomers prefer to PATW.
— but what elevates it in my opinion is the factor of synthesis. The guy in the example image I posted actually made that model; sure, he probably bought the trains premade, but he definately planned and constructed the environment. There's a world of difference between passive consumption and actually creating something, even if that something is a cringy or autistic.
Praying for my nigga, hope he made it to the great train station in the sky o7
