Yet another article about celibate pedos

And it mentions "Not-So-Virtuous Pedophiles"


(Oh, the kid in the story claims he never hurt a child. Even though he used to jerk it to kiddy porn every night when he was a teenager)

 

[cuddle striker]

yeah nobody likes a woman who likes women these days. not even ftm get treated worse in the deep zone.

in general, the mainstream lgbt movement hates pedo apologists the most though- seeing as it was and still is a major talking point against teh gays for so long.

 

[vertexwindi]

Actually, groups like NAMBLA and Heart Progress have been trying to join major LBGT communities, and march in Pride parades. They've basically been told to go fuck themselves. There are a few sympathizers on the fringe, (think Harry Hay), but most of the gay community thinks they're scum.

Yeah, NAMBLA has been trying for decades.

And always been told to fuck off by the gays.

 

[ZeCommissar]

I never got the "urge" crap. The vast majority of people have sexual urges and preferences. People see people they are sexually and physically attracted to all the fucking time that don't rape and molest those people. If you honestly can't be attracted to adults then tough fucking luck, get chemically castrated if you honestly are virtuous.

 

[Mrs Paul]

The funny thing is those who claim it's an orientation are the worst for that -- they claim it's an urge and they have to find some kind of outlet, but non-pedos really don't have that problem.

And I honestly don't feel bad for someone who claims he never hurt a child, yet spent years looking at child porn. He WAS hurting children. If he'd sack up and admit it, I might give him the benefit of the doubt. But instead he acts likes it was your average porn addiction, like it was just some kind of fetish.

 

[nonnewtonian]

I can't believe the guy's therapist told him to DFE instead of reporting him to the cops for CP possession. Isn't that obstruction of justice? Or are therapists not mandated to report possession to the police since the patient is not directly harming the kids involved?

 

[pozilei]

And I honestly don't feel bad for someone who claims he never hurt a child, yet spent years looking at child porn. He WAS hurting children. If he'd sack up and admit it, I might give him the benefit of the doubt. But instead he acts likes it was your average porn addiction, like it was just some kind of fetish.

Yes, this. And it's incredibly creepy how all those articles keep reiterating the point that they haven't molested anyone yet like it's something worth of praise. Yeah, sorry mate, you're not getting a cookie and round of applause for not having raped a kid. That's like the bare minimum it takes to not be a monster.

I also can't help but be a bit wary of those support groups they mentioned. I do think it's good for people with those urges to have a network that helps them not offend but those online groups might just do more harm than good. I'm not saying they're a cover-up for CP or anything - but constantly talking to other pedos, and how hard they have it in life, living in this bubble of people who accept this stuff as just inborn urges...I think it might just end up normalizing it to these people and they'll become even further removed from a society they view as hostile.

 

[friedshrimp]

Remember when back in the day anti-gay conservatives were always going on like "bisexual? what's next? doing it with children and animals? that'll happen if we make gay marriage legal!"

And look where we are.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

At this point, there's just no hope for pedophiles to get the treatment they need even if they really want it upon recognizing they're fucked up in the head. Any and all studies can be done about it to try and understand how it happens and what can be done to treat it (if they're acknowledging it in 16-year-olds or less, it'd be better to treat it while the brain's still developing), but the damage has long been done because of the Internet. The moment CP was first uploaded to the Web, the moral event horizon was crossed, FBI and law enforcement were too late to nip it in the bud, and we're now being flooded with pedophilia acceptance and cries for "lowering/getting rid of the age of consent" on social media, and it's leaking into the (somehow still sane) real world that doesn't want that bullshit. They are permanently fucked.

I also can't be the only one who was uncomfortable with the pictures in the article. Like... artistically, they're good, but it's the context involved that concerns me about the artist behind them.

 

[Marvin]

I also can't help but be a bit wary of those support groups they mentioned. I do think it's good for people with those urges to have a network that helps them not offend but those online groups might just do more harm than good. I'm not saying they're a cover-up for CP or anything - but constantly talking to other pedos, and how hard they have it in life, living in this bubble of people who accept this stuff as just inborn urges...I think it might just end up normalizing it to these people and they'll become even further removed from a society they view as hostile.

Definitely, this.

The most poignant description of this problem came from someone back in the day on PVCC.

In between sagas, when Chris was doing nothing and shitting himself, we kept ourself busy with other lolcows. A favorite target was the loveshy forum, because of how fucking bonkers they were.

At some point, someone on PVCC made a really hilarious writeup about the loveshy phenomenon and it was the definitive source of info on loveshies for quite awhile.

It's been copied and pasted and passed around for years.

Here's what it has to say about the importance of support groups:

"But wait, the Love-shy books/community is helping me with my issues!"

There's nothing wrong with support groups. They're not going to magically fix all of your problems but can also be a useful tool in recovery. The thing is that real support groups have somebody who knows what the fuck they're doing moderating so the thing doesn't turn into a huge circle jerk.

The Love-shy moderators are pretty fucked-up people themselves, and it doesn't seem like they give a shit about anybody getting better or overcoming their shyness or their tendencies to stalk women, hate women, beat off to little girls, or mastermind plots to shoot dozens of people. In a free and open forum people should be able to talk about these upsetting things as long as there's somebody in charge who has their shit together enough to know not to go SHIT YEAH BRO ALL WOMEN ARE CUNT BITCH WHORES ESPECIALLY THE TEENAGE GIRLS OH MAN LOOK AT THAT KESHA BITCH CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SLUT CHECK OUT MY GUN COLLECTION.

Personally, I've never seen anything quite so fucked up as the Love-shy forums. And this is from a guy who's been following Chris-chan for a year.

Pretend you're high on crack. One day you have a moment where you decide that your life isn't really going the way you want to go, and you think it's because of the crack. I mean, it's the most obvious thing. It's why you're living out of the men's shelter after you got evicted and you're panhandling money all day and probably why you traded away your shoes.

Now, if you want to quit smoking crack maybe you should get some help. But from who? You could check into rehab, or find a Narcotics Anonymous meeting, or just really, really commit yourself to staying sober. You might fail at it and go back on the crack, but at least you've tried.

Instead of any of that, you decide that nobody knows more about crack than people who are using it right now. You tell your crack dealer and some other crackheads that you want to quit smoking crack because it's negatively impacting your life. Your crack dealer says that you don't need to stop smoking crack to be happy. He knows a lot of people who have resigned themselves to the fact that they'll be crackheads for life and they're happy, sort of. All the crackheads you talk to say that you deserve a rich and fulfilling life despite being a crackhead. I mean, you're a disadvantaged, oppressed minority on account of your debilitating crack addiction. So instead of doing anything constructive you just smoke a bunch of crack as always, spend all your money on crack, and hang out in a crackhouse with crackheads.

To summarize: by identifying as a "Love-shy" and hanging out with other people that call themselves "Love-shies" you are being a fuckhead and are making terrible life choices.

If you're in your teens or 20s, you could solve all your problems by 1.) not hanging around with these losers and 2.) talking to real people around you you can actually socialize with and 3.) stop being lazy and not giving a shit about your life 4.) instead of sitting around and bitching about how you can't talk to girls, talk to girls.

Here's one mirror of the article. (Unfortunately some of the accompanying content, like pictures, are missing.) It's a great read.

 

[proteus4994]

Has nobody explained that even if you don't hurt children yourself, watching child porn validates the child pornography trade, which does hurt children.

Like, there's no "OK way" to be a pedophile no matter how they try to spin this shit.

 

[Manah]

lol they're really making it out like pedos don't know what to do when faced with impulses to sexual assault children because they don't have a hotline. The answer is don't, just as it is for any other violent crime, or theft.

Jamal really wants to stick up this elderly woman for her cash to buy the newest Jordan's. He doesn't have a hotline or a father figure to tell him this is wrong.

The perfect excuse: I'm sorry, officer, I can't not rape people.

Of course, why did I never think of that?

 

[Cosmos]

Like, sorry, but you don't get a gold star and a medal for not molesting children. I'm very disturbed by this trend where we're supposed to be lauding non-offending pedophiles for being STUNNING AND BRAVE for not raping children.

And like other people have been saying, if you watch child porn, you're still a fucking horrible human being who's participating in the sexual exploitation of children.

 

[OtterParty]

@Field Marshal Crappenberg what do you think

 

[Laughs_Under_Lucricities]

Has nobody explained that even if you don't hurt children yourself, watching child porn validates the child pornography trade, which does hurt children.

Like, there's no "OK way" to be a pedophile no matter how they try to spin this shit.

Unless they're drawn, which is a huge market.
I'm not one to support censoring anything that's not real, regardless if I agree with the content or not. That's one step away from being arrested for your own thoughts.

 

[OtterParty]

Unless they're drawn, which is a huge market.
I'm not one to support censoring anything that's not real, regardless if I agree with the content or not. That's one step away from being arrested for your own thoughts.

tell us more

 

[cuddle striker]

They are permanently fucked.

I also can't be the only one who was uncomfortable with the pictures in the article. Like... artistically, they're good, but it's the context involved that concerns me about the artist behind them.

technically they're sociopaths. no known treatment but the chemical straitjacket, heavy sedation, containment. even castrating then doesn't stop them, it just gives them an out they can pretend"works".

did you read the follow-up article about the artist? it was pretty good. I wouldn't want to illustrate that, but they did the best work I've seen with disturbing subjects, very intense imagery without anything included that was over the line.

Unless they're drawn, which is a huge market.
I'm not one to support censoring anything that's not real, regardless if I agree with the content or not. That's one step away from being arrested for your own thoughts.

I agree that art should not be censored. there are a lot of artists who have done amazing work about horrible subject matter. however, the graphic stuff is often used to groom kids, to normalize it ("see, other people do this, other kids like this", etc) and so I think a lot of works should be cracked down on, case by case, to figure out what is valuable artistically and what is not.

you can't draw a line in the sand, with art. but you can tell when someone walks too far in the wrong direction. case by case.

 

[Laughs_Under_Lucricities]

I agree that art should not be censored. there are a lot of artists who have done amazing work about horrible subject matter. however, the graphic stuff is often used to groom kids, to normalize it ("see, other people do this, other kids like this", etc) and so I think a lot of works should be cracked down on, case by case, to figure out what is valuable artistically and what is not.

you can't draw a line in the sand, with art. but you can tell when someone walks too far in the wrong direction. case by case.

Are you sure about that? Every single lolicon I've ever known or seen has stated that they too loathe real pedophiles.

 

[cuddle striker]

every single priest claims they'd never harm a child. someone who in particular mainly enjoys media pertaining to pedosexuality would seem to have an interest in it.

again, though- case by case. there are paintings in museums which could be considered as sexual representations of kids. I'm not advocating a scorched earth, here. just that the material can be used that way, and pedosexuals will be very good at hiding their motivations for owning it.

Are you sure about that? Every single lolicon I've ever known or seen has stated that they too loathe real pedophiles.

here's a glimpse at them. it's pretty horrific to hear their excuses, rationalization. they minimize their actions, deflect, blame others. and this group of men are being more open than most you'd encounter, due to the setting in which this was filmed. it's older so a lot of the science going on is malarkey, but their behavior is consistent.

they are very good manipulators- or they immediately get busted, young. there's no other options.

sorry for all the multiple edits to add info. it's really hard not to a-log here. I've seen the results of this stuff, professionally. it stays with you. I don't know how the people busting these guys can stand being exposed to the shit for so long.

 

[Laughs_Under_Lucricities]

every single priest claims they'd never harm a child. someone who in particular mainly enjoys media pertaining to pedosexuality would seem to have an interest in it.

again, though- case by case. there are paintings in museums which could be considered as sexual representations of kids. I'm not advocating a scorched earth, here. just that the material can be used that way, and pedosexuals will be very good at hiding their motivations for owning it.

That's a good point, but I have also seen them in action of turning against someone who does compare a favorite manga or whatever of theirs with the real thing, and they are pretty relentless a good 90% of the time.

 

[cuddle striker]

That's a good point, but I have also seen them in action of turning against someone who does compare a favorite manga or whatever of theirs with the real thing, and they are pretty relentless a good 90% of the time.

they're shielding themselves. "people will think anime is pedos!" = they don't want people to know anime is pedos